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81- wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 10:17 pm I can see potential to be the next big thing. I'm all in on team ridder.

Disclaimer. He's currently my throw a dart developmental qb.

But seriously, he is in a good situation. He knows how to win. Ton of talent to take the pressure off him. Just needs to be a ball distributer and you have a startable back up with a ton of upside.

FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 10:54 pm

81- wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 10:17 pm I can see potential to be the next big thing. I'm all in on team ridder.

Disclaimer. He's currently my throw a dart developmental qb.

But seriously, he is in a good situation. He knows how to win. Ton of talent to take the pressure off him. Just needs to be a ball distributer and you have a startable back up with a ton of upside.

(to the bold) Cool. Thanks for that, it's a semi-serious thing, here. However, in my opinion:

He really needs to be good this year. There are 3 elite type prospects under the age of 23/24 at different skill positions. If he isn't good, a bridge QB, a decent vet, just to lift it up, or an all in type move for one of the top QB prospects next year is likely. You can't waste Bijan, London, Pitts on their rookie deals. He's got a 1 year trial, and it better be good.

With the NFC lacking real QB talent, a trade could even happen next year, bringing a QB that is good enough to really compete in the NFC, rather than the AFC. Carr was free agent, but the same concept. He went from buried in his division, let alone conference, to being the best sure thing at QB in that division, and the Saints could very realistically win that division now. Atlanta may do the same.

Ridder is a dart throw, and needs to be good now. He doesn't have the draft capital or the situational excuse to not be good this year.

Jigga94 wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:23 am I could easily see him getting replaced. We know the hit rates of non 1st round QBs are awful.

But ATL has also been within striking distance of a lot of top QBs the past 3 years and never went after them. They had picks 4, 8 and 8 the past 3 years. I expect they will have a worse pick this year with how bad their division and the NFC is comparatively to the AFC.

Of course, he could still be average, the team wins 8 or 9 games, gets bounced 1st round and they still look to replace him. But I don't think they're going to be in the top 5 to pick a top tier QB either.

ericanadian wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 10:26 am

Jigga94 wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:23 am I could easily see him getting replaced. We know the hit rates of non 1st round QBs are awful.

But ATL has also been within striking distance of a lot of top QBs the past 3 years and never went after them. They had picks 4, 8 and 8 the past 3 years. I expect they will have a worse pick this year with how bad their division and the NFC is comparatively to the AFC.

Of course, he could still be average, the team wins 8 or 9 games, gets bounced 1st round and they still look to replace him. But I don't think they're going to be in the top 5 to pick a top tier QB either.

There is a very short list of 3rd round quarterbacks who have been named the opening day starter somewhere at any point in their career. He’s already cleared a fairly major hurdle. He’s not coming in as the team’s second choice. If he can hold of Heinicke and start a full season, he’s in an even better position. I don’t think you can weigh him down with the failure of a bunch of guys sharing his draft capital when he’s already doing more in the NFL than the vast majority of them.

remedy29 wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 10:26 am I dont understand why people discount non 1st round starting QBs. Every year, about 1/3 of the league starting QBs are non 1st round QBs. Its irrelevant to compare Ridder to other 3rd round QBs. Ridder has obviously been in Atlanta's plans to start this season since they drafted him. Now it will be up to Ridder to play well enough to hold onto the job.

Also, I don't understand the suggestion that Atlanta will simply just get a top 3 pick QB next year. Maybe 20 teams or so need a franchise QB, if it was so easy you'd think it would happen more often.

SoftwoodGrampian wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:08 am He’s going to be replaced after the year by a top 3 QB selection.