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Justin Jefferson as a prospect was most definitely more flashy than Olave.
I feel the exact same way. He has been my WR1 in this class for the entire off-season process (Oalve is my WR2). Lot's of the WRs in this class have elite traits, but also have obvious flags/deficiencies. From what I have seen Wilson seems to do everything well. As always it will be fun to see how it plays out with the tightly grouped (in terms of value) top receivers in this class.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:01 pm
That being said - I watch Garrett Wilson and I love him. Dude just looks special in a way that I don’t see from these other guys (including Williams).
I agree. But I do like the McLaurin comp.ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:33 amJustin Jefferson as a prospect was most definitely more flashy than Olave.
Flash is not his calling card. We are using a lot of hindsight on JJ right now. He, just like Marvin Harrison, is just really smooth, smart, great hands, and can run routes. I’m not saying that Olave is going to be a 1500 yard receiver because putting those types of players on any prospect is nuts…but I think that all of those WRs were hurt in the draft process for being smooth. There’s a lot of unnecessary movement in Wilson’s game…but that makes him look more explosive as a receiver, when in reality that may not necessarily be true.ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:33 amJustin Jefferson as a prospect was most definitely more flashy than Olave.
I do definitely agree with thisj4pac wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 12:39 pmFlash is not his calling card. We are using a lot of hindsight on JJ right now. He, just like Marvin Harrison, is just really smooth, smart, great hands, and can run routes. I’m not saying that Olave is going to be a 1500 yard receiver because putting those types of players on any prospect is nuts…but I think that all of those WRs were hurt in the draft process for being smooth. There’s a lot of unnecessary movement in Wilson’s game…but that makes him look more explosive as a receiver, when in reality that may not necessarily be true.ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:33 amJustin Jefferson as a prospect was most definitely more flashy than Olave.
These flaws really just speak to his upside.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 1:01 pmI do definitely agree with thisj4pac wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 12:39 pmFlash is not his calling card. We are using a lot of hindsight on JJ right now. He, just like Marvin Harrison, is just really smooth, smart, great hands, and can run routes. I’m not saying that Olave is going to be a 1500 yard receiver because putting those types of players on any prospect is nuts…but I think that all of those WRs were hurt in the draft process for being smooth. There’s a lot of unnecessary movement in Wilson’s game…but that makes him look more explosive as a receiver, when in reality that may not necessarily be true.ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:33 am
Justin Jefferson as a prospect was most definitely more flashy than Olave.
Jets certainly weren’t ideal. I understand the history with Patriots receivers, but that landing spot would have been a HUGE boost in my book. Mac is a QB that is highly accurate and could support a weapon like Wilson.Chris_R wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:23 pm He was my WR1 before the draft and usually I have talent over situation but any WR going to the Jets, Ravens, or Patriots is enough for me to pause. So if Wilson hits it won't be on any of my teams, don't believe in Wilson, the Jets ability to develop a top 15 fantasy WR, or them to be able to feed a ton of weapons in the passing game when snow will be on the field half of those games. There were only a few teams I wasn't gonna draft Wilson and he landed on one of those.
Obviously nowhere near the talent or type that Wilson is, but do you like Tyquan Thornton much? He’s basically free in every draft I’ve been in. This year’s Dwayne Eskridge.BabyChark23 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 1:58 pmJets certainly weren’t ideal. I understand the history with Patriots receivers, but that landing spot would have been a HUGE boost in my book. Mac is a QB that is highly accurate and could support a weapon like Wilson.Chris_R wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:23 pm He was my WR1 before the draft and usually I have talent over situation but any WR going to the Jets, Ravens, or Patriots is enough for me to pause. So if Wilson hits it won't be on any of my teams, don't believe in Wilson, the Jets ability to develop a top 15 fantasy WR, or them to be able to feed a ton of weapons in the passing game when snow will be on the field half of those games. There were only a few teams I wasn't gonna draft Wilson and he landed on one of those.
You really think that Calvin Ridley is Olave’s ceiling?Sriracha wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 1:41 pmThese flaws really just speak to his upside.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 1:01 pmI do definitely agree with thisj4pac wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 12:39 pm
Flash is not his calling card. We are using a lot of hindsight on JJ right now. He, just like Marvin Harrison, is just really smooth, smart, great hands, and can run routes. I’m not saying that Olave is going to be a 1500 yard receiver because putting those types of players on any prospect is nuts…but I think that all of those WRs were hurt in the draft process for being smooth. There’s a lot of unnecessary movement in Wilson’s game…but that makes him look more explosive as a receiver, when in reality that may not necessarily be true.
Wilson is already a very good separator with strong YAC and elite body control and he has the potential to take his game to an even higher level if he can continue to cut out unnecessary movements and play with more control out of his breaks.
I liken this a lot to Diontae coming out of Toledo who was similarly knocked for being "raw in and out of his breaks" in college. When you're already an elite separator with these flaws you're going to be nigh unguardable once you've gotten a little more polishing.
As for JJ and Olave.. JJ was mostly knocked because he played inside during his blow up year at LSU and because he "wasn't the alpha" in his receiving room. He showcased a lot more YAC ability than Olave which is essential for these smallish receivers to break into the elite tier.
Best case scenario for Olave is closer to Calvin Ridley than Justin Jefferson who is the total package.
It’s not a horrible comp. I’m just not much of a Ridley fan, I guess. There’s a really fine line between Ridley as a prospect, and say, Torry Holt. I tend to be a little more generous with “ceilings”.