agreedBelichekYourSelf wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:47 am I'd keep Zeke if I was contending and probably gamble with the picks if I was rebuilding.
Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
Team 1:
12 Team, Superflex, 0.5ppr
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 2FLEX, 1OP, 1TE, 1Def
QB: Matt Ryan, Andy Dalton, Sam Darnold
RB: Zeke, Yeldon, Kerryon Johnson, Elijah McGuire
WR: OBJ, AJ Green, Tyreek Hill, Larry Fitzgerald, Jamison Crowder, Taywan Taylor
TE: Gronk
D: Chicago
Team 2:
10 Team, Superflex, 0.5 PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLX, 1 OP
QB: Carson Wentz (3 years), Drew Brees (2years), Eli Manning(1year), Ryan Tannehill(1year)
RB: Zeke (4 years), Carlos Hyde (1 year), Alex Collins (1 year), Elijah McGuire (TS)
WR: Keenan Allen (2 year), Michael Thomas(NO, 3 years), Demaryius Thomas (1year), Jarvis Landry(1 year), Golden Tate (1 year), Robby Anderson (TS)
TE: Kyle Rudolph (1 year)
12 Team, Superflex, 0.5ppr
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 2FLEX, 1OP, 1TE, 1Def
QB: Matt Ryan, Andy Dalton, Sam Darnold
RB: Zeke, Yeldon, Kerryon Johnson, Elijah McGuire
WR: OBJ, AJ Green, Tyreek Hill, Larry Fitzgerald, Jamison Crowder, Taywan Taylor
TE: Gronk
D: Chicago
Team 2:
10 Team, Superflex, 0.5 PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLX, 1 OP
QB: Carson Wentz (3 years), Drew Brees (2years), Eli Manning(1year), Ryan Tannehill(1year)
RB: Zeke (4 years), Carlos Hyde (1 year), Alex Collins (1 year), Elijah McGuire (TS)
WR: Keenan Allen (2 year), Michael Thomas(NO, 3 years), Demaryius Thomas (1year), Jarvis Landry(1 year), Golden Tate (1 year), Robby Anderson (TS)
TE: Kyle Rudolph (1 year)
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Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
Ask again in 3 months! As of right now, gotta be Zeke. Even being in the top tier, the odds of both picks playing at RB1 and WR1 levels are not the best. Zeke now has a year under his belt, Dak ain't goin anywhere and the O line will be the O line. There is stability there and scary to think his numbers will only get better. Man, tough spot but Zeke is proven and young.
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Rodgers
Gurley | Howard | Mixon | Kelley | Mckinnon | West | J Williams
OBJ | ARob | Nuk | M Thomas | KA | C Davis | Sammy | Parker | Moncrief | T Hill | Doctson
Kelce | Reed | Howard
K Mack
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4th Year
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12 Team, PPR. 22 Man Roster. 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE, K, D,
Cousins | Prescott
Gurley | Mixon | Kelley | J Williams | D Henderson
Evans | M Thomas | Nuk | ARob | Sammy | C Davis | Boyd | Parker
Kelce | Eifert | Howard | Engram | Shaheen
2nd Year
14 Team PPR, TE Prem. 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE
Mariota | Wentz
Mixon | Foreman | Hill
Treadwell | Dorsett | Strong | Peake | Humphries | Latimer
Escobar | Gresham
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2019-1,1,2,2,3,4,5
12, 16 Champ
10 Team, PPR, IDP, 26 men, 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE
Rodgers
Gurley | Howard | Mixon | Kelley | Mckinnon | West | J Williams
OBJ | ARob | Nuk | M Thomas | KA | C Davis | Sammy | Parker | Moncrief | T Hill | Doctson
Kelce | Reed | Howard
K Mack
M Garrett
4th Year
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Cousins | Prescott
Gurley | Mixon | Kelley | J Williams | D Henderson
Evans | M Thomas | Nuk | ARob | Sammy | C Davis | Boyd | Parker
Kelce | Eifert | Howard | Engram | Shaheen
2nd Year
14 Team PPR, TE Prem. 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE
Mariota | Wentz
Mixon | Foreman | Hill
Treadwell | Dorsett | Strong | Peake | Humphries | Latimer
Escobar | Gresham
Picks: 2018-1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2
2019-1,1,2,2,3,4,5
Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
I'm a Giants fan who will tell you that getting rid of Zeke is crazy talk. You're looking at a young stud RB who isn't going to see a committee and who is running behind the best line in football. His QB is also a run threat, and Dez is floating around out there, and don't even get me started on Witten. You really can't show him those 8-man fronts or Prescott and Dez are going to eat you alive.
Zeke is a superstar; hard pass.
Zeke is a superstar; hard pass.
Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
See if he has a low 1rst or high 2nd to trade
.5 PPR - 12 team keeper league- 2 FLEX
QB- Phillip Rivers, Carson Wentz
RB- David Johnson, Zeke, Marshawn Lynch, Isaiah Crowell
WR- Sammy Watkins, OBJ, Alshon Jeffery, Devin Funchess, Malcolm Mitchell, Treadwell
TE- Travis Kelce, Coby Fleener, Jack Doyle
DEF- Carolina
K- Justin Tucker
2018-3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2019- 2,3,4,5,6
QB- Phillip Rivers, Carson Wentz
RB- David Johnson, Zeke, Marshawn Lynch, Isaiah Crowell
WR- Sammy Watkins, OBJ, Alshon Jeffery, Devin Funchess, Malcolm Mitchell, Treadwell
TE- Travis Kelce, Coby Fleener, Jack Doyle
DEF- Carolina
K- Justin Tucker
2018-3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2019- 2,3,4,5,6
Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
Ask for a 2nd
.5 PPR - 12 team keeper league- 2 FLEX
QB- Phillip Rivers, Carson Wentz
RB- David Johnson, Zeke, Marshawn Lynch, Isaiah Crowell
WR- Sammy Watkins, OBJ, Alshon Jeffery, Devin Funchess, Malcolm Mitchell, Treadwell
TE- Travis Kelce, Coby Fleener, Jack Doyle
DEF- Carolina
K- Justin Tucker
2018-3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2019- 2,3,4,5,6
QB- Phillip Rivers, Carson Wentz
RB- David Johnson, Zeke, Marshawn Lynch, Isaiah Crowell
WR- Sammy Watkins, OBJ, Alshon Jeffery, Devin Funchess, Malcolm Mitchell, Treadwell
TE- Travis Kelce, Coby Fleener, Jack Doyle
DEF- Carolina
K- Justin Tucker
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2019- 2,3,4,5,6
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Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
X3mrmagloo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:25 pmX2BelichekYourSelf wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:47 am I'd keep Zeke if I was contending and probably gamble with the picks if I was rebuilding.
But I would want to wait until after the draft.
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Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
This. What bothers me about LF is lack of big games in a big game. Zeke ripped off 200 vs Alabama, LF has about 75 yards in two games.BelichekYourSelf wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:47 am I'd keep Zeke if I was contending and probably gamble with the picks if I was rebuilding.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
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Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
Give me Zeke here.
No way i'm trading the sure thing for two questions marks. Not a gamble i'd be willing to make at this point.
No way i'm trading the sure thing for two questions marks. Not a gamble i'd be willing to make at this point.
Team 1
12-team, 0.5 PPR, SuperFlex, TE Premium (+0.5 PPR) | 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLEX, 1SF
QB: Hurts, Herbert, Cousins, Purdy
RB: Taylor, Barkley, Swift, Mixon, N.Harris, Hunt, Dobbins
WR: Jefferson, Adams, Metcalf, Godwin, Ridley, Lockett, Cooks
TE: Kittle, Njoku, Gesicki
Team 2
12-team, PPR | 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX
QB: Wilson, Jones
RB: Robinson, Gibbs, Mixon, Sanders, R. White
WR: Lamb, Godwin, Lockett, Addison, D. Johnson, Meyers, Campbell, R. Moore
TE: Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant
12-team, 0.5 PPR, SuperFlex, TE Premium (+0.5 PPR) | 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLEX, 1SF
QB: Hurts, Herbert, Cousins, Purdy
RB: Taylor, Barkley, Swift, Mixon, N.Harris, Hunt, Dobbins
WR: Jefferson, Adams, Metcalf, Godwin, Ridley, Lockett, Cooks
TE: Kittle, Njoku, Gesicki
Team 2
12-team, PPR | 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX
QB: Wilson, Jones
RB: Robinson, Gibbs, Mixon, Sanders, R. White
WR: Lamb, Godwin, Lockett, Addison, D. Johnson, Meyers, Campbell, R. Moore
TE: Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant
Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
I'd hold until after the draft at least. See where they land. You hold the cards in this offer, wait for an overpay to trade Zeke.
12 team .20 pt per carry 1 ppr RB/ WR 1.5 PPR TE 1 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 te 1 superflex 1 flex
QB- Watson Ben Dalton
RB- Kamara Conner Cook Royce Mack Samuels Latavius
WR- Evans AB Keenan Kupp Marvin Kirk Deasean Foster Parker
TE- Ebron Engram Doyle Walker
2020 - 2 2nds
12 team .20 pt per carry 1pt PPR 1 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 TE 1 flex
QB - Winston Darnold
RB- Tevin Royce Penny Yeldon
WR - Golladay Davis Godwin Kirk John B. Higgins
TE - Henry Vance
DEF - Balt
2019 - 1.02 1.05 1.10 1.11 1.12 2.05 2.09 2.11 2.12
QB- Watson Ben Dalton
RB- Kamara Conner Cook Royce Mack Samuels Latavius
WR- Evans AB Keenan Kupp Marvin Kirk Deasean Foster Parker
TE- Ebron Engram Doyle Walker
2020 - 2 2nds
12 team .20 pt per carry 1pt PPR 1 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 TE 1 flex
QB - Winston Darnold
RB- Tevin Royce Penny Yeldon
WR - Golladay Davis Godwin Kirk John B. Higgins
TE - Henry Vance
DEF - Balt
2019 - 1.02 1.05 1.10 1.11 1.12 2.05 2.09 2.11 2.12
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Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
I agree to wait and see where Fournette and Cook end up before pulling the trigger, and I also think that you keep Zeke evn thought you look like you're rebuilding. Load up on receiver at 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6.
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)
QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
Without knowing the landing spot of the players you're targeting, I'd keep what's the closest thing to a sure thing. Look at Gurley. Probably rated higher than any of these guys coming out of college. You go to a team that can't pass or run block, it don't matter what your pedigree is.
Team 1 Richard Cranium 2015 & 2016 Champion 16 teams 1 PPR 1 QB\1 RB \2 WR \ 1 RB/WR\ 1 TE
Wilson, Mahomes
Gurley, David Johnson, Jonathan Taylor, Darrell Henderson
OBJ, Cooks, Fuller, M. Williams, Courtland Sutton, A.J. Brown
Kelce, Dissly
Butker
Balt, Jets
Team 2 Crushing Steelers 12 teams 1PPR 1QB\2RB\2WR\1TE\1 RB-WR\ 2 I
Allen, Garropolo, Goff
Mixon, Chubb, Mack, Drake,
OBJ, Cooks, Hopkins, Kirk, Miller, A.J. Brown
Goedert, Hockerson, Fant
Gay
Chicago, SF, Pitt
Lavonte David, Warner, Hicks
Wilson, Mahomes
Gurley, David Johnson, Jonathan Taylor, Darrell Henderson
OBJ, Cooks, Fuller, M. Williams, Courtland Sutton, A.J. Brown
Kelce, Dissly
Butker
Balt, Jets
Team 2 Crushing Steelers 12 teams 1PPR 1QB\2RB\2WR\1TE\1 RB-WR\ 2 I
Allen, Garropolo, Goff
Mixon, Chubb, Mack, Drake,
OBJ, Cooks, Hopkins, Kirk, Miller, A.J. Brown
Goedert, Hockerson, Fant
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Lavonte David, Warner, Hicks
Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
Zeke easy and its not exactly close.
Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
Agreed. I'm one who thinks Zeke is talented but largely a product of that stellar situation. How soon will that situation change? I bet he gives at least one more elite year. Elite years in RBs are hard to come by.
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Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
Let's do simple math. Let's say that 1.01 and 1.03 each have a 75% chance of being an RB1 or WR1 (and, of course, that's high). If you're selling Zeke, you're doing it with the hope that both become legit players -- and there is just over a 50% chance of that happening even accounting for the high initial projections.
Most likely, ONE of them will a RB1 OR a WR1, and the other might be useful, and that's a FAR downgrade from Zeke.
And even if both end up as an RB1 or WR1, that doesn't mean that they're worth Zeke. If I offered you one of, say, Ajayi, Miller, McCoy, Ware (all top-12 RBs by January ADP) and one of, say, Watkins, Hilton, Bryant, Cooks (all top-12 WRs by January ADP), you'd have to at least consider it. But, that's not even a slam-dunk. And, realistically, that's the BEST outcome for you in this trade -- but far from the most likely.
Keep Zeke.
Most likely, ONE of them will a RB1 OR a WR1, and the other might be useful, and that's a FAR downgrade from Zeke.
And even if both end up as an RB1 or WR1, that doesn't mean that they're worth Zeke. If I offered you one of, say, Ajayi, Miller, McCoy, Ware (all top-12 RBs by January ADP) and one of, say, Watkins, Hilton, Bryant, Cooks (all top-12 WRs by January ADP), you'd have to at least consider it. But, that's not even a slam-dunk. And, realistically, that's the BEST outcome for you in this trade -- but far from the most likely.
Keep Zeke.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)
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Re: Zeke for 1.01 and 1.03
I would want more for Zeke, especially in Start 2 RB league.
Zeke is a known commodity now. He landed in the ideal landing spot, perfect even. I mean, that situation is worth so much. He could repeat next season or be even better and I don't think anyone would be really surprised. Considering the future development of Dak and Zeke being incorporated more into the passing game. Give me the 1.01 + 1.03 + +
Zeke is a known commodity now. He landed in the ideal landing spot, perfect even. I mean, that situation is worth so much. He could repeat next season or be even better and I don't think anyone would be really surprised. Considering the future development of Dak and Zeke being incorporated more into the passing game. Give me the 1.01 + 1.03 + +
12 teams - PPR
1QB, 2-4RB, 3-5WR, 1-3TE
QB-Ryan, Tua, Fitz, Winston
RB-Zeke, Gurley, Conner, Henry, McKinnon, Drake
WR-Adams, Cooper, Woods, Parker, Pittman, M.Jones, DJax, MVS, Fitz, Foster
TE-Cook, Alie-Cox, Fells, Doyle, Okwuegbunam
Draft Picks: 2021 1,2,3,4,4
League Champion: 2017, 2018, 2019
1QB, 2-4RB, 3-5WR, 1-3TE
QB-Ryan, Tua, Fitz, Winston
RB-Zeke, Gurley, Conner, Henry, McKinnon, Drake
WR-Adams, Cooper, Woods, Parker, Pittman, M.Jones, DJax, MVS, Fitz, Foster
TE-Cook, Alie-Cox, Fells, Doyle, Okwuegbunam
Draft Picks: 2021 1,2,3,4,4
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