I agree. It feels like as a whole, this class might produce 1 random QB success. Pretty bleak. I don't think picking a round past the 1st to target or single out, is anything worth while. These are all darts. It will likely take the perfect storm of situation and talent/organization in place for one of these guys to make fantasy relevancy anyways. Aka a lot of luckThunderTung wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:07 pmI feel like if were having this conversation, we should be grouping the QB's from round 3 and onwards. I just dk if just using the 3rd round is a trend that means anything.
QB is already a position that is super hard to scout and get right, even in the first round. Using 3-7 will surely increase the length of the list and add some bigger names like Brady (of course) Gannon, and Hassleback just off the top of my head.
Not to say that any of these QB's will be good, I just think draft capital trends like that are kind of meaningless. Earlier the round, the higher chance of success obviously, but picking a specific round and saying "this position isnt very successful in this particular round" feels like a nothing stat
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I do think a lot of the draft positions of the QB's in this class were kind of steals. Just from a pure talent perspective, its pretty rare to have that much talent all fall out of the first two rounds from the QB position. Not to say that they are uber talented, we knew this was a weaker QB class. But I wouldn't be shocked if a few of them became serviceable starters, just from upside alone.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:26 pmI agree. It feels like as a whole, this class might produce 1 random QB success. Pretty bleak. I don't think picking a round past the 1st to target or single out, is anything worth while. These are all darts. It will likely take the perfect storm of situation and talent/organization in place for one of these guys to make fantasy relevancy anyways. Aka a lot of luckThunderTung wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:07 pmI feel like if were having this conversation, we should be grouping the QB's from round 3 and onwards. I just dk if just using the 3rd round is a trend that means anything.
QB is already a position that is super hard to scout and get right, even in the first round. Using 3-7 will surely increase the length of the list and add some bigger names like Brady (of course) Gannon, and Hassleback just off the top of my head.
Not to say that any of these QB's will be good, I just think draft capital trends like that are kind of meaningless. Earlier the round, the higher chance of success obviously, but picking a specific round and saying "this position isnt very successful in this particular round" feels like a nothing stat
But who knows, we werent in the pre draft meetings with them, they could all have bricks for brains in terms of football IQ lol.
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QB(1): Drake Maye
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Schultz
FLEX(2): Stevenson/DK
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
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QB: Geno/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/Braelon Allen
WR: Nabers/McConkey/N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/P. Brown
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens/Bullard
QB(1): Drake Maye
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Schultz
FLEX(2): Stevenson/DK
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
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QB: Geno/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/Braelon Allen
WR: Nabers/McConkey/N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/P. Brown
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens/Bullard
Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread
Something that can be said of every position, but the effects of missing/shortened 2020 are still in effect. I think a lot less is known about these prospects because of that which is possibly why we are seeing the hesitation with these guys.ThunderTung wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:40 pmI do think a lot of the draft positions of the QB's in this class were kind of steals. Just from a pure talent perspective, its pretty rare to have that much talent all fall out of the first two rounds from the QB position. Not to say that they are uber talented, we knew this was a weaker QB class. But I wouldn't be shocked if a few of them became serviceable starters, just from upside alone.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:26 pmI agree. It feels like as a whole, this class might produce 1 random QB success. Pretty bleak. I don't think picking a round past the 1st to target or single out, is anything worth while. These are all darts. It will likely take the perfect storm of situation and talent/organization in place for one of these guys to make fantasy relevancy anyways. Aka a lot of luckThunderTung wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:07 pm
I feel like if were having this conversation, we should be grouping the QB's from round 3 and onwards. I just dk if just using the 3rd round is a trend that means anything.
QB is already a position that is super hard to scout and get right, even in the first round. Using 3-7 will surely increase the length of the list and add some bigger names like Brady (of course) Gannon, and Hassleback just off the top of my head.
Not to say that any of these QB's will be good, I just think draft capital trends like that are kind of meaningless. Earlier the round, the higher chance of success obviously, but picking a specific round and saying "this position isnt very successful in this particular round" feels like a nothing stat
But who knows, we werent in the pre draft meetings with them, they could all have bricks for brains in terms of football IQ lol.
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Exactly. I mean, for example, I heard there was a real negative outlook on Howell's time and how he carried himself etc. at the Senior Bowl. So much we don't know about these players, in regards to their personalities, and NFL teams can obviously glean so much more about these players in that regard.ThunderTung wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:40 pmI do think a lot of the draft positions of the QB's in this class were kind of steals. Just from a pure talent perspective, its pretty rare to have that much talent all fall out of the first two rounds from the QB position. Not to say that they are uber talented, we knew this was a weaker QB class. But I wouldn't be shocked if a few of them became serviceable starters, just from upside alone.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:26 pmI agree. It feels like as a whole, this class might produce 1 random QB success. Pretty bleak. I don't think picking a round past the 1st to target or single out, is anything worth while. These are all darts. It will likely take the perfect storm of situation and talent/organization in place for one of these guys to make fantasy relevancy anyways. Aka a lot of luckThunderTung wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:07 pm
I feel like if were having this conversation, we should be grouping the QB's from round 3 and onwards. I just dk if just using the 3rd round is a trend that means anything.
QB is already a position that is super hard to scout and get right, even in the first round. Using 3-7 will surely increase the length of the list and add some bigger names like Brady (of course) Gannon, and Hassleback just off the top of my head.
Not to say that any of these QB's will be good, I just think draft capital trends like that are kind of meaningless. Earlier the round, the higher chance of success obviously, but picking a specific round and saying "this position isnt very successful in this particular round" feels like a nothing stat
But who knows, we werent in the pre draft meetings with them, they could all have bricks for brains in terms of football IQ lol.
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I blasted the NFL for letting Aaron Hernandez slip due to failed drug tests. Turns out it was way worse than that. Many teams knew of his deep gang connections.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:51 pm Exactly. I mean, for example, I heard there was a real negative outlook on Howell's time and how he carried himself etc. at the Senior Bowl. So much we don't know about these players, in regards to their personalities, and NFL teams can obviously glean so much more about these players in that regard.
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How would you rank these three in a PPR league?
Dameon Pierce, Rachaad White, Zamir White.
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Richaad WhiteBabyChark23 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:30 pm How would you rank these three in a PPR league?
Dameon Pierce, Rachaad White, Zamir White.
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Yea the cook and ridder picks I didn’t get at all. The Ridder owner “needed a QB” hence the pick. I have no idea why he didn’t take G Wilson there. He’s usually smarter than thatFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:14 amThree real egregious reaches in Cook, Ridder, Willis 3 in a row. These people don't know what they are doing. Especially bad, reaching on QB's and a satellite back in a 10 teamer, where "studs" are king. Role playing RB's aren't as valuable as in larger leagues, and neither are the back end QB's. Brutal drafting.BabyChark23 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:11 amGarret Wilson at the 1.10? I would be doing cart wheels if I had that pick.Hankybro21 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 9:30 pm
I saw Malik go 1.09 today in a 10tm SF.
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Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce
Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
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2025: 1st (early), 1st (early), 1st (mid)
Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, MHJ, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Brooks, Ekeler
T: Andrews, Granson
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W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce
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Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.04, 1.05, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early), 1st (early), 1st (mid)
Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, MHJ, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Brooks, Ekeler
T: Andrews, Granson
Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle
Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread
I traded the 2.03 and a 23 second up for the 1.12. Yes i know 23 is stacked but i have 4 23 firsts so this was a fine move to make for me imo. Like most of us i have literally no idea who will be available at 1.12 but i will say the guys who intrigue me there are Rachaad White, Christian Watson, Dotson or Skyy Moore. Its so hard to know who to take there. Im also having this same exact problem at 1.08. Im PRAYING the guy at 1.04/1.05 reaches on Cook there so that i luck into a better player, anything is possible. All i know is after the top 7 this really is one of the most confusing draft classes ive ever seen.
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It's not a bad deal, but I probably would've waited until it got closer to that pick being OTC. You don't know who will be available and you don't know who you would take which means you could've saved your '23 2nd and acquired the leftover player you still considered. Hopefully your '23 2nd will be later to counter the gamble.Patsfan86 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 9:33 am I traded the 2.03 and a 23 second up for the 1.12. Yes i know 23 is stacked but i have 4 23 firsts so this was a fine move to make for me imo. Like most of us i have literally no idea who will be available at 1.12 but i will say the guys who intrigue me there are Rachaad White, Christian Watson, Dotson or Skyy Moore. Its so hard to know who to take there. Im also having this same exact problem at 1.08. Im PRAYING the guy at 1.04/1.05 reaches on Cook there so that i luck into a better player, anything is possible. All i know is after the top 7 this really is one of the most confusing draft classes ive ever seen.
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