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Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:23 pm
by abloom
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:32 pm Right there with you friend. I have a feeling unless you randomly started Pickens, Davis or Higgins but had any skin in these games your fantasy playoffs are definitely in peril.

Even Allen, who had a solid 17 at half, just barely had any plays at all 2nd half. What a mess.
I'm jealous of the injury plagued team that started Rudolph, Pickens, Shaheed, Davis, and d Robinson.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:26 pm
by wickerkat1212
I didn't have the courage to bench Diggs for Olave. Hope that doesn't cost me the win. Good news? Allen and Puka did more than expected.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:59 pm
by FantasyFreak
We as football fans give the refs a lot of flack. Just have to give a shoutout that line judge in PERFECT position, and to be able to watch that in real time, to call that Pickens sideline catch correctly. Just top notch.

He also rightly didn't call OPI that the DB was whining about, on the 2nd Pickens TD. DB extends arm first, Pickens extends back, bit of hand fighting, good no call. Well done.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:30 am
by mild
Needalife wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:11 pm If you look at Diggs' history. he often times seems to slow down late in the season. Tonight hasn't been great but you can't sit him in a night game against a weak LAC team. Just not going his way tonight.
5 Rec for 29 yards.

Posted about it last week, I guess it's time for an update:
mild wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:27 pm This has low-key been happening during the Fantasy Playoffs for years now.

He's killed me for multiple playoffs personally. But he also gets you there, so you feel like you can't bench him "and that this time it'll be different"...

0.5 PPR:

2023
Week 13 - BYE
Week 14 - 4.4
Weeks 15 - 6.8
Weeks 16 - 5.4
Week 17 - TBD

2022
Week 13 - 18.7
Week 14 - 5.2
Week 15 - 8.2
Week 16 - 3.6
Week 17 - 3.6

2021
Week 13 - 7.1
Week 14 - 10.9
Week 15 - 11.5
Week 16 - 18.9
Week 17 - 7.7

At least in 2021 he was showing up for a TD-ish.

Hard to know if it will ever actually get better, or if this might be the downturn already...

If he's still in Buffalo next season, I'll definitely be interested to sell if I can get a good price. He's let me down in the clutch too many times now.
Safe to say that if you've tried to roll with Diggs in the last 3 years, he has outright hurt you more than helped you at progressing in the Playoffs.

If anyone who started him this week (or any of them) is still alive by some miracle, I can't imagine they're feeling good about starting him next week.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:07 am
by Anteaters
mild wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:30 am
Needalife wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:11 pm If you look at Diggs' history. he often times seems to slow down late in the season. Tonight hasn't been great but you can't sit him in a night game against a weak LAC team. Just not going his way tonight.
5 Rec for 29 yards.

Posted about it last week, I guess it's time for an update:
mild wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:27 pm This has low-key been happening during the Fantasy Playoffs for years now.

He's killed me for multiple playoffs personally. But he also gets you there, so you feel like you can't bench him "and that this time it'll be different"...

0.5 PPR:

2023
Week 13 - BYE
Week 14 - 4.4
Weeks 15 - 6.8
Weeks 16 - 5.4
Week 17 - TBD

2022
Week 13 - 18.7
Week 14 - 5.2
Week 15 - 8.2
Week 16 - 3.6
Week 17 - 3.6

2021
Week 13 - 7.1
Week 14 - 10.9
Week 15 - 11.5
Week 16 - 18.9
Week 17 - 7.7

At least in 2021 he was showing up for a TD-ish.

Hard to know if it will ever actually get better, or if this might be the downturn already...

If he's still in Buffalo next season, I'll definitely be interested to sell if I can get a good price. He's let me down in the clutch too many times now.
Safe to say that if you've tried to roll with Diggs in the last 3 years, he has outright hurt you more than helped you at progressing in the Playoffs.

If anyone who started him this week (or any of them) is still alive by some miracle, I can't imagine they're feeling good about starting him next week.
I've long approached Diggs with wariness because his productivity has wild swings. His end of the year numbers have been very good, but his seasons have lags that always worried me.

This year, I made the mistake of getting excited about his early season production and, in a redraft league, traded ARSB for Diggs in a deal that also swapped RBs. Almost immediately after I got Diggs, he went into a slow stretch and that team lost a few close games I would have won had I not made that trade. I should have continued to avoid him.

I can definitely see Buffalo "trade" out of Diggs for a guy like Higgins/Pittman or even Hollywood. Not actually trade Diggs for one of them, but end the offseason with Diggs off the team and a new WR1 on the team. Those are all good route runners with great hands and would bring less drama to the team.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:54 am
by tstafford
Anteaters wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:07 am I can definitely see Buffalo "trade" out of Diggs for a guy like Higgins/Pittman or even Hollywood. Not actually trade Diggs for one of them, but end the offseason with Diggs off the team and a new WR1 on the team. Those are all good route runners with great hands and would bring less drama to the team.
Interesting thought. I wonder how much of an obstacle his contract is to that move. Seems fairly unattractive to me on the surface (his guarantee is really big) but I'm no expert.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:07 am
by Anteaters
tstafford wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:54 am
Anteaters wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:07 am I can definitely see Buffalo "trade" out of Diggs for a guy like Higgins/Pittman or even Hollywood. Not actually trade Diggs for one of them, but end the offseason with Diggs off the team and a new WR1 on the team. Those are all good route runners with great hands and would bring less drama to the team.
Interesting thought. I wonder how much of an obstacle his contract is to that move. Seems fairly unattractive to me on the surface (his guarantee is really big) but I'm no expert.
I didn't consider that. I forgot it still had that long to go. Not to mention Buffalo may not be able to absorb so much dead cap money. Well, maybe if there's a will, they will find a way?

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 7:20 am
by Oddball456
mild wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:30 am
Needalife wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:11 pm If you look at Diggs' history. he often times seems to slow down late in the season. Tonight hasn't been great but you can't sit him in a night game against a weak LAC team. Just not going his way tonight.
5 Rec for 29 yards.

Posted about it last week, I guess it's time for an update:
mild wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:27 pm This has low-key been happening during the Fantasy Playoffs for years now.

He's killed me for multiple playoffs personally. But he also gets you there, so you feel like you can't bench him "and that this time it'll be different"...

0.5 PPR:

2023
Week 13 - BYE
Week 14 - 4.4
Weeks 15 - 6.8
Weeks 16 - 5.4
Week 17 - TBD

2022
Week 13 - 18.7
Week 14 - 5.2
Week 15 - 8.2
Week 16 - 3.6
Week 17 - 3.6

2021
Week 13 - 7.1
Week 14 - 10.9
Week 15 - 11.5
Week 16 - 18.9
Week 17 - 7.7

At least in 2021 he was showing up for a TD-ish.

Hard to know if it will ever actually get better, or if this might be the downturn already...

If he's still in Buffalo next season, I'll definitely be interested to sell if I can get a good price. He's let me down in the clutch too many times now.
Safe to say that if you've tried to roll with Diggs in the last 3 years, he has outright hurt you more than helped you at progressing in the Playoffs.

If anyone who started him this week (or any of them) is still alive by some miracle, I can't imagine they're feeling good about starting him next week.
He put up 7.9 points (edit: this is full ppr, points in the previous post were 0.5 ppr) so while clearly not great, it isn't a complete 0. But it really depends on who else you can start in his place. For my team, assuming I get into the championship my choices would be Juju, Dotson, or Wan'dale instead of Diggs and that is about it (Chase is likely out and Tank Dell is on IR). Given those choices, going to roll Diggs pretty easy.

But I do think he is going to be one of the main pieces I want to sell this offseason.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:19 am
by FantasyFreak
32 yard run by Bijan. Next play, 24 yard Pitts TD.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:24 am
by Forza_Azzurri
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:19 am 32 yard run by Bijan. Next play, 24 yard Pitts TD.
Merry Christmas everyone.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:24 am
by FantasyFreak
Sam "time to throw in the" Howell.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:32 am
by FantasyFreak
Oh my, Kyle Pitts. Another 1 handed grab.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:36 am
by PPE82
Say what you want, but I still think Kyle Pitts is an elite TE. Just needs a QB and HC change.

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:38 am
by FantasyFreak
Lions DB intercepts the ball on 4th down and costs his team 25 yards, and jumps up acting like he just saved a baby from a burning building. LOL

Re: 2023 Week 16

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:52 am
by FantasyFreak
JSN down on a scary hit towards the wall. Hope he's OK.