My issue isn't that he can't play through legitimate injuries, it's that whenever he gets a decent workload he can't seem to avoid a legitimate injuryCameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:06 amI still don't get this critique, because it feels like we're comparing different levels of injuries and then using it to call Swift soft. Swift has missed games for legitimate injuries. He hasn't missed games because of a cut on his finger or some light ankle sprain.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:29 pm
He had touches that would be close to a lead back, and got dinged up, as usual. It's part and parcel my, man. Let's see if he gets 20-30 plus touches this week. Jacobs in constantly questionable, yet constantly getting 20-35 touches. There's a difference. Swift has not proven he can handle it. So when he comes out after more touches than he'd been given, and limited, it means more than a guy who proves he can take a workload consistently. Until this coaching staff believes Swift can handle a workload and play week to week without missing games, he's more likely to have his touches limited week to week.
Whatever the case is, he was clearly playing through something the past couple of weeks and seems to be getting back to where he wants to be. I just don't think it's realistic to penalize a player because they won't play through notable injuries, or they aren't capable of doing it well. That shouldn't be an expectation for a RB.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
His own coaching staff basically called him soft, without saying it. This was part of the OP. They suggested he was not able to play through things he should be able to. It was them questioning the legitimacy, or extent of his "injuries" in the past. They talked about his ability to play through minor bumps and bruises. Not necessarily the actual injuries on the report, but the stuff that doesn't go on the injury report. They clearly had an issue with Swift at some point, whether it be taking himself out, or complaining, or whatever, I don't know, I wasn't there, but it was a clear issue for the RB coach at one point.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Some players seem to suffer from this mindset. Locally, one example is Rashad Penny. Now he did have some legitimate injuries as well, ones he couldn't play through. But it wasn't until Adrian Peterson joined the team midway through last season that Penny started to come on. He actually credited Peterson with helping him become a better RB, and teaching him important lessons about playing the position. One specific lesson he learned was the difference between playing "hurt" and "injured".FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:38 am His own coaching staff basically called him soft, without saying it. This was part of the OP. They suggested he was not able to play through things he should be able to. It was them questioning the legitimacy, or extent of his "injuries" in the past. They talked about his ability to play through minor bumps and bruises. Not necessarily the actual injuries on the report, but the stuff that doesn't go on the injury report. They clearly had an issue with Swift at some point, whether it be taking himself out, or complaining, or whatever, I don't know, I wasn't there, but it was a clear issue for the RB coach at one point.
Of course, then he went on to be legitimately injured again in 2022, and here we are...
I don't know if some players are physically more prone to injury or just unlucky. But it sure seems there are some that have difficulty staying off IR, or missing weeks at a time. So far, Swift has been one of them. I hope for better, healthier seasons ahead for him, but won't be buying any shares either.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
How did that work out for you?
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
I won both matchups I started him in thanks to Evan Engram and the greatest QB in fantasy: Jalen Hurts.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:10 pmHow did that work out for you?
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Been waiting years for DOUBLE EE to have this kind of game ... and he was on our bench
Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
I'm done with Swift. He will not be in my starting lineup again this year. Can't trust him in the playoffs
Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Back under 10 touches. Outproduced by Justin Jackson. Not like Jamaal had a good game either but he got a majority of the touches. I don't see how you can trust Swift in the playoffs unless you squeaked in with no other options.
Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
I think it’s fair to say none of the RBs had a good game and Jackson’s day was salvaged by that touchdown. Agree the usage is bad again and I don’t know how to read the situation. Swift was in on some in the 10 opportunities though. At this point he’s a high risk RB2/Flex but in the leagues I have him I’m starting him over people like Jeff Wilson, D’Onta Foreman etc.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
He's a guy I would hate to start but also hate to see in my opponents lineup, because thats the week he will go for 20+ lolMike11 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:13 amI think it’s fair to say none of the RBs had a good game and Jackson’s day was salvaged by that touchdown. Agree the usage is bad again and I don’t know how to read the situation. Swift was in on some in the 10 opportunities though. At this point he’s a high risk RB2/Flex but in the leagues I have him I’m starting him over people like Jeff Wilson, D’Onta Foreman etc.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Woof. Hope nobody started him. Another game with minimal involvement.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Though the involvement was because they were getting killed.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:54 pm Woof. Hope nobody started him. Another game with minimal involvement.
Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Maybe. But Swift is supposed to be one of the stars of the offense. And if the offense can't get it going early and falls behind, that's partly Swift's fault.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:17 pmThough the involvement was because they were getting killed.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:54 pm Woof. Hope nobody started him. Another game with minimal involvement.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Could also argue that his best skill is pass catching, and he wasn't involved in a blowout comeback script.Anteaters wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:32 pmAlthough it could be argued they were getting killed partly because he was ineffective in the early going.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:17 pmThough the involvement was because they were getting killed.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:54 pm Woof. Hope nobody started him. Another game with minimal involvement.
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Re: D'Andre Swift: Skilled but "soft"
Didn't get the receptions either, though. I benched him a few weeks ago, he's not start worthy at this point. 5 targets, only 1 catch. 5 Touches. 13 last week, 9 the week before. He's a guy you simply can't trust in your lineup if you want to win, at this point. Didn't see that coming at the start of the year.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:17 pmThough the involvement was because they were getting killed.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:54 pm Woof. Hope nobody started him. Another game with minimal involvement.
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