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Postby hostile » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:55 pm

rkrazy wrote:As a Campbell owner I am happy and sad. Happy that he remains a usable option as a starter in Oakland and sad that he went to Oakland. I applaud Al Davis this year for his off season moves. I liked what they did in the draft, moving Morrison and acquiring Campbell. Hopefully now he dumps Fatboy to eliminate what will be their biggest distraction. Zach Miller went from #12 to #10 in my rankings.
I think Miller could be looking at 80/1000/6 this year.

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Postby MrUbuto » Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:00 pm

rkrazy wrote:As a Campbell owner I am happy and sad. Happy that he remains a usable option as a starter in Oakland and sad that he went to Oakland. I applaud Al Davis this year for his off season moves. I liked what they did in the draft, moving Morrison and acquiring Campbell. Hopefully now he dumps Fatboy to eliminate what will be their biggest distraction. Zach Miller went from #12 to #10 in my rankings.
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Postby thewhyterabbit » Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:33 pm

MrUbuto wrote:
rkrazy wrote:As a Campbell owner I am happy and sad. Happy that he remains a usable option as a starter in Oakland and sad that he went to Oakland. I applaud Al Davis this year for his off season moves. I liked what they did in the draft, moving Morrison and acquiring Campbell. Hopefully now he dumps Fatboy to eliminate what will be their biggest distraction. Zach Miller went from #12 to #10 in my rankings.
it appears al davis has released his iron grip a little after multiple embarrassments. for the first time in awhile there future seems ok
maybe cable knocked his lights out and drafted for him!!!
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Postby yumbo » Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:29 am

Orca wrote:Every time the ball was thrown in Louis Murphy's direction, good things happened for the Raiders. That is saying a lot, since good things are rare for the Raiders.
I gotta agree Orca!! No one is throwing Murphy any love on here! What's up with that? :D

Maybe I'm just hoping because I scored him with the 4.09 pick in my 4 round rookie draft. (I got Knox with the 4.11) :twisted: :lol:
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Postby thewhyterabbit » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:28 am

yumbo wrote:
Orca wrote:Every time the ball was thrown in Louis Murphy's direction, good things happened for the Raiders. That is saying a lot, since good things are rare for the Raiders.
I gotta agree Orca!! No one is throwing Murphy any love on here! What's up with that? :D

Maybe I'm just hoping because I scored him with the 4.09 pick in my 4 round rookie draft. (I got Knox with the 4.11) :twisted: :lol:
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Postby Terpfan76 » Tue May 04, 2010 8:05 am

I wouldn't sleep on DHB. True he's looked like a bust, but it's waaaaay too soon to say that. I really believe that Campbell's arrival will benefit DHB greatly as no one can doubt Campbell's work ethic which may rub off on DHB.
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Postby Misfit74 » Tue May 04, 2010 10:52 pm

yumbo wrote:
Orca wrote:Every time the ball was thrown in Louis Murphy's direction, good things happened for the Raiders. That is saying a lot, since good things are rare for the Raiders.
I gotta agree Orca!! No one is throwing Murphy any love on here! What's up with that? :D

Maybe I'm just hoping because I scored him with the 4.09 pick in my 4 round rookie draft. (I got Knox with the 4.11) :twisted: :lol:
What's up with that is Murphy can't catch. Lot's of targets, few receptions. Murphy's catch-rate was a horrific 35%! :oops: good for 2nd-worst in the NFL and 88th in advanced metrics. Only the stellar Michael Clayton has a worse catch-rate, 33%. For contrast, that's less than half the rate of Wayne, Welker, Ward, and many others. Only a whopping 35% of all targets were caught by Murphy. TERRIBLE.

Note: If he qualified, DHB would have the worst, at 23% but he didn't get enough snaps.
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Postby thewhyterabbit » Wed May 05, 2010 12:51 am

Misfit74 wrote:
yumbo wrote:
Orca wrote:Every time the ball was thrown in Louis Murphy's direction, good things happened for the Raiders. That is saying a lot, since good things are rare for the Raiders.
I gotta agree Orca!! No one is throwing Murphy any love on here! What's up with that? :D

Maybe I'm just hoping because I scored him with the 4.09 pick in my 4 round rookie draft. (I got Knox with the 4.11) :twisted: :lol:
What's up with that is Murphy can't catch. Lot's of targets, few receptions. Murphy's catch-rate was a horrific 35%! :oops: good for 2nd-worst in the NFL and 88th in advanced metrics. Only the stellar Michael Clayton has a worse catch-rate, 33%. For contrast, that's less than half the rate of Wayne, Welker, Ward, and many others. Only a whopping 35% of all targets were caught by Murphy. TERRIBLE.

Note: If he qualified, DHB would have the worst, at 23% but he didn't get enough snaps.
your stats dont factor who he had at QB. when u factor that 35% is AMAZING... think about it.
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Postby Orca » Wed May 05, 2010 4:04 am

Misfit74 wrote:
yumbo wrote:
Orca wrote:Every time the ball was thrown in Louis Murphy's direction, good things happened for the Raiders. That is saying a lot, since good things are rare for the Raiders.
I gotta agree Orca!! No one is throwing Murphy any love on here! What's up with that? :D

Maybe I'm just hoping because I scored him with the 4.09 pick in my 4 round rookie draft. (I got Knox with the 4.11) :twisted: :lol:
What's up with that is Murphy can't catch. Lot's of targets, few receptions. Murphy's catch-rate was a horrific 35%! :oops: good for 2nd-worst in the NFL and 88th in advanced metrics. Only the stellar Michael Clayton has a worse catch-rate, 33%. For contrast, that's less than half the rate of Wayne, Welker, Ward, and many others. Only a whopping 35% of all targets were caught by Murphy. TERRIBLE.

Note: If he qualified, DHB would have the worst, at 23% but he didn't get enough snaps.

Jamarcus factor? In the games I watched, Murphy caught everything within range and more importantly he made incredibly difficult catches in clutch situations.

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Postby Guppy CEO » Wed May 05, 2010 6:22 am

Misfit74 wrote:
yumbo wrote:
Orca wrote:Every time the ball was thrown in Louis Murphy's direction, good things happened for the Raiders. That is saying a lot, since good things are rare for the Raiders.
I gotta agree Orca!! No one is throwing Murphy any love on here! What's up with that? :D

Maybe I'm just hoping because I scored him with the 4.09 pick in my 4 round rookie draft. (I got Knox with the 4.11) :twisted: :lol:
What's up with that is Murphy can't catch. Lot's of targets, few receptions. Murphy's catch-rate was a horrific 35%! :oops: good for 2nd-worst in the NFL and 88th in advanced metrics. Only the stellar Michael Clayton has a worse catch-rate, 33%. For contrast, that's less than half the rate of Wayne, Welker, Ward, and many others. Only a whopping 35% of all targets were caught by Murphy. TERRIBLE.

Note: If he qualified, DHB would have the worst, at 23% but he didn't get enough snaps.
i hate that stat more than any other. qb throws the ball 5 feet over the receivers head and the receiver % goes down. number of dropped balls is a much better indicator, because it takes into account whether the ball was catchable whereas targeted doesnt
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Postby skip » Wed May 05, 2010 10:43 am

Guppy CEO wrote: i hate that stat more than any other. qb throws the ball 5 feet over the receivers head and the receiver % goes down. number of dropped balls is a much better indicator, because it takes into account whether the ball was catchable whereas targeted doesnt
Murphy had 9 drops last season, tied for 3rd most in the league.

But drops are equally misleading...everyone's favorite WR Braylon Edwards is accused of having huge dropping issues. I believe the official number for him last season was 3.

Here are some other names from around the league:
Vernon Davis, Dwayne Bowe: 11 - highest in the league
Santonio Holmes: 10
Brent Celek, Dallas Clark: 9 (along with Murphy and a number of others)
Marques Colston, Calvin Johnson: 8 (also with others)
etc.

How about using # of drops relative to the # of targets. 9 drops on 87 targets (Davis 129, Bowe 87 !!!, Holmes 138, Celek 112, Clark 132, Colston 106, Calvin 136)
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Postby Orca » Wed May 05, 2010 11:03 am

skip wrote:
Guppy CEO wrote: i hate that stat more than any other. qb throws the ball 5 feet over the receivers head and the receiver % goes down. number of dropped balls is a much better indicator, because it takes into account whether the ball was catchable whereas targeted doesnt
Murphy had 9 drops last season, tied for 3rd most in the league.

But drops are equally misleading...everyone's favorite WR Braylon Edwards is accused of having huge dropping issues. I believe the official number for him last season was 3.

Here are some other names from around the league:
Vernon Davis, Dwayne Bowe: 11 - highest in the league
Santonio Holmes: 10
Brent Celek, Dallas Clark: 9 (along with Murphy and a number of others)
Marques Colston, Calvin Johnson: 8 (also with others)
etc.

How about using # of drops relative to the # of targets. 9 drops on 87 targets (Davis 129, Bowe 87 !!!, Holmes 138, Celek 112, Clark 132, Colston 106, Calvin 136)
That's is true, some good information there. But he was a rookie and he certainly did make some amazing catches in clutch situations. (Well as clutch as a situation can get involving the Raiders). I know this, I would rather see him starting than DHB, but really, that isn't saying much.


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