Lynch and Sanchez

[pnt71]

Two things becomes one:

1) I would like to trade Mark Sanchez - I don't really believe in him as a future Top10 QB - and I think his value right now is quite high.

But how high...?

2) I would like to trade for Marshawn Lynch, before it's decided where he ends. That should make him cheaper - and if he ends in Seattle, it could be a bargain (and a bad trade if he ends in Cleveland or stays in Buffalo, but I'll take that chance)

So my question is: When I'm going to approach the owner of Lynch with Sanchez, what should I get besides Lynch to balance the trade with Sanchez?

My roster:
QB: Kolb, Vick, Sanchez, Delhomme, D. Anderson
RB: Jacobs, Portis, Ringer (very bad - I know)
WR: Bennett, Chambers, Douglas, Evans, Gonzalez, Meachem, Robinson, Stroughter, Sweed
TE: Shiance, Lee
1.05, 2.01, 2.06, 2.10, 2.13, 3.13

His roster:QB: Favre, Leinart, Romo
RB: R. Bush, Greene, R. Jennings, J. Jones, Lynch, Slaton, Turner
WR: Branch, Britt, B. Edwards, Hartline, Jenkins, Ochocinco, T.O., Stallworth, Wallace
TE: Winslow
2.04, 3.01, 3.04


Thanks in advance

/pnt71

Edit: It should be noted I am rebuilding

[Steelersfan]

Two things becomes one:

1) I would like to trade Mark Sanchez - I don't really believe in him as a future Top10 QB - and I think his value right now is quite high.

But how high...?

2) I would like to trade for Marshawn Lynch, before it's decided where he ends. That should make him cheaper - and if he ends in Seattle, it could be a bargain (and a bad trade if he ends in Cleveland or stays in Buffalo, but I'll take that chance)

So my question is: When I'm going to approach the owner of Lynch with Sanchez, what should I get besides Lynch to balance the trade with Sanchez?

My roster:
QB: Kolb, Vick, Sanchez, Delhomme, D. Anderson
RB: Jacobs, Portis, Ringer (very bad - I know)
WR: Bennett, Chambers, Douglas, Evans, Gonzalez, Meachem, Robinson, Stroughter, Sweed
TE: Shiance, Lee
1.05, 2.01, 2.06, 2.10, 2.13, 3.13

His roster:QB: Favre, Leinart, Romo
RB: R. Bush, Greene, R. Jennings, J. Jones, Lynch, Slaton, Turner
WR: Branch, Britt, B. Edwards, Hartline, Jenkins, Ochocinco, T.O., Stallworth, Wallace
TE: Winslow
2.04, 3.01, 3.04


Thanks in advance

/pnt71

Edit: It should be noted I am rebuilding

I don't think a lot of owners are high on either player right now but I think you would be fortunate to get Lynch straight up for Sanchez.

[MrUbuto]

what am I missing? did something happen to sanchez? why is everyone suddenly so down on him?

[Steelersfan]

what am I missing? did something happen to sanchez? why is everyone suddenly so down on him?

I don't think anyone is suddenly down on Sanchez as much as I think he is viewed as a QB2 with a somewhat limited upside because of the Jets run first, run second, and play tough D personality.

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what am I missing? did something happen to sanchez? why is everyone suddenly so down on him?

I don't think anyone is suddenly down on Sanchez as much as I think he is viewed as a QB2 with a somewhat limited upside because of the Jets run first, run second, and play tough D personality.

Exactly.

[Misfit74]

what am I missing? did something happen to sanchez? why is everyone suddenly so down on him?

Um, because he sucks.

The Jets are a 'D' and run-first team. Even with a top-notch running game and behind an elite offensive line Sanchez was horrific as a passer. One of the worst rookie seasons in history. Why don't they talk about this? It's the New York Jets. If Sanchez played for Cincy or Oakland, you would hear plenty about how bad Sanchez was. 63 QB-rating (lame stat, but still), 53% completions, and a low yards per attempt. 20 INTs. He's has to play better or people will be rightfully calling for his head. For now, I'll give the rookie a break, but those are facts. The fact is that he sucked balls in 2009 - he managed games and helped win games behind a dominant defense and elite run-game, but showed almost nothing as a passer.

[pnt71]

I am actually with you here, Misfit74. I haven't got great thoughts on Sanchez, but I have people in my league very interested in him. He has just gotten Holmes as WR1, people remember the playoff-games, where he actually played well, and tend to forget, how bad he performed in several matches over the season. So it's time to get him traded - because when the league starts again in september, people will realize, that he's not that good.

So I have this owner, who has Lynch, and he is high on Sanchez, but I can't get him to trade Lynch before it's decided where he will play. I do take a risk, of course, by trying to get him and not knowing where he's going, but look at the upside, if he ends up in Seattle (and the downside, if he ends up in Cleveland...).

I haven't tried Sanchez for Lynch straight up yet, but I think that risk is too high... We'll see in a week or so

Thanks for the input, guys...

/pnt71

[Shawn]

I am actually with you here, Misfit74. I haven't got great thoughts on Sanchez, but I have people in my league very interested in him. He has just gotten Holmes as WR1, people remember the playoff-games, where he actually played well, and tend to forget, how bad he performed in several matches over the season. So it's time to get him traded - because when the league starts again in september, people will realize, that he's not that good.

So I have this owner, who has Lynch, and he is high on Sanchez, but I can't get him to trade Lynch before it's decided where he will play. I do take a risk, of course, by trying to get him and not knowing where he's going, but look at the upside, if he ends up in Seattle (and the downside, if he ends up in Cleveland...).

I haven't tried Sanchez for Lynch straight up yet, but I think that risk is too high... We'll see in a week or so

Thanks for the input, guys...

/pnt71

I wouldn't necessarily think that landing in CLE would be bad for Lynch, we still don't know if Jerome Harrison can hold up for a full season, plus a new West coast offense could be good for Lynch's value especially with receptions etc. Either way I'd trade Sanchez for Lynch no matter where he goes.

[skip]

So I have this owner, who has Lynch, and he is high on Sanchez, but I can't get him to trade Lynch before it's decided where he will play. I do take a risk, of course, by trying to get him and not knowing where he's going, but look at the upside, if he ends up in Seattle (and the downside, if he ends up in Cleveland...).

Cleveland ranked 8th in the NFL for rushing yardage last season (Seattle ranked 26th). They were also a top 10 team in 2007. Consider 2008 a "blip" in the last 3 seasons when everything was pathetic.

[MrUbuto]

You guys are all nuts doggin' on a rookie QB for having a bad qb rating and a boat load of INT's. at leaset hes a starter with huge ipside

[BradyT]

You guys are all nuts doggin' on a rookie QB for having a bad qb rating and a boat load of INT's. at leaset hes a starter with huge ipside

Agreed! He might not become a top option at QB.. but I think he has the potential to sneak around 12 like Eli Manning is doing.. and thats a nice startable option imo.

[meineymoe]

As you know, your team is weak, and if you make that trade, it looks even weaker on paper since Sanchez is your top returning QB.

What you need to do is find someone who is high on Sanchez and try to get more than Lynch for him. I'd be more likely to hold Sanchez and try to move Jacobs / Chambers / Evans for draft position or other upgrades.

If the other owner really wants Sanchez, see about getting Greene instead - you might have to give him something, like your 2.1 pick.

-oo-

[pnt71]

Thanks for the advice.

@meineymoe: I have aquired the Eagles QB's and will be starting them in the future over Sanchez - and that's why I am looking to trade Sanchez to get some building blocks for my RB roster, and Greene would be great...

I will see, if I can get him to let Greene go.

/pnt71