Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Team situation aside, who would you rather have?

Jeremy Hill, Gio Bernard
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85%
Keenan Allen, 2016 1st (random)
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15%
 
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Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby Yung Don » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:03 pm

What package would you rather have?
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Re: Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby pocylpse » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:14 pm

Cincinnati backfield all day long...........
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Re: Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby jagsguy92 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:37 pm

pocylpse wrote:Cincinnati backfield all day long...........
Why?
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Re: Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby yitzchaks » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:46 pm

jagsguy92 wrote:
pocylpse wrote:Cincinnati backfield all day long...........
Why?

I think that allen is a WR2 at his highest, Hill looks like a young RB1, and gio is a good backup and borderline flex on his own, and the pick to be would be a easy price to pay for the difference.
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Re: Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby operwapitsai » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:00 pm

Hey boys

I would say

Hill=1.03-1.04
Allen=1.03-1.04

Gio = '16 1st


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Re: Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby Hawks Nest 12th Man » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:44 pm

Think I have to go Hill side but close for me
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Re: Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby MilwaukeesBest » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:11 pm

yitzchaks wrote:
jagsguy92 wrote:
pocylpse wrote:Cincinnati backfield all day long...........
Why?

I think that allen is a WR2 at his highest, Hill looks like a young RB1, and gio is a good backup and borderline flex on his own, and the pick to be would be a easy price to pay for the difference.
I agree. I like the CIN backfield, having them both, as mentioned gives you a RB1 and Flex. I also see Allen as a WR2 and waiting on a random 2016 1st does little to inspire me from passing on those two backs.
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Re: Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby bot » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:55 pm

Not high on Allen. Think he's a WR2 at best throughout his career which isn't awful but if I can get a young RB1 that's a good trade for u. Plus i don't know what happens at QB in SD after this year and I don't think Allen has the talent to be productive no matter who is throwing ball to him. I'm taking the RBs.

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Re: Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby The Dirty Birds » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:59 pm

I wouldn't take Allen/16 1st for Hill alone honestly

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Re: Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby operwapitsai » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:03 pm

Hm, recency bias at its finest
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Re: Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby The Dirty Birds » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:11 pm

operwapitsai wrote:Hm, recency bias at its finest
Not at all, more like talent evaluation. I was super high on Allen last yr but he just doesn't have that speed or ability to dominate corners to be a WR1. Hill, despite being a RB2 talent, is in an amazing situation and easily a RB1. I don't mind flipping Hill, but I'd want someone with WR1 upside, Allen just doesn't have it imo.

Receny bias is more like thinking Allen is completely useless, which I am not.

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Re: Cincinatti backfield or Keenan Allen and a 2016 1st?

Postby Whatevs6 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:36 pm

Hill's efficiency rating is off the charts. He's a super stud who makes the trade completely lopsided.
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