Ok, so it's not the good kind. I'm talkin' bout three-way trades. My 10-teamer is a group of friends so this probably makes it a bit easier since we talk to each other about potential deals.
For example, two guys were discussing a small deal sending Montee Ball to the CJA owner for a WR. Problem is CJA owner is a little thin at WR and can't overpay for a backup. So light bulb on, I suggest I move a couple of WRs to both teams to facilitate and receive some picks for this year and other depth.
I didn't post the exact deal because I'm more interested in the strategy and stories of others doing the same thing. I feel sometimes it's hard to get trades done in a one-on-one situation because you're giving up strength to add it somewhere else. Going three-way can make it beneficial for all.
Three Ways!
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Re: Three Ways!
Agreed that it can be beneficial for all.. I think this happens in the NBA quite often... If it's between friends, I would get a three-way text message going and have everyone "Sign" it as proof and then send the trades individually via your league hosting site. If anyone goes back on their word, you have the "Signatures" in hand to give to the commissioner.
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Re: Three Ways!
I've never done a three way trade before - (but its a fantasy....right??)
In regular trades, there is normally a lot of discussion and back and forth between the 2 owners. A lot of the time neither of us ends up pulling the trigger because we just can't make it work. Either the value on his side isn't someone I want, and the person I want is outside the value range and I'm not willing to expand the trade into multiple picks and players to try and balance it out.
I can see it working if three teams all need a different position and the team that can offer it can't accept what you are offering.
Ie Team A has QB depth but needs WR
Team B has WR depth but needs a RB
Team C has RB depth but needs QB.
Assuming all values equal Team A give Team C - QB, Team C gives Team B - RB, Team B gives team A - WR.
On paper it could work but I can't imagine the three way discussions that would need to take place in order to satisfy 3 owners that they were all benefitting from the trade. I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm sure in person discussions over beer and wings will help immensely.
In regular trades, there is normally a lot of discussion and back and forth between the 2 owners. A lot of the time neither of us ends up pulling the trigger because we just can't make it work. Either the value on his side isn't someone I want, and the person I want is outside the value range and I'm not willing to expand the trade into multiple picks and players to try and balance it out.
I can see it working if three teams all need a different position and the team that can offer it can't accept what you are offering.
Ie Team A has QB depth but needs WR
Team B has WR depth but needs a RB
Team C has RB depth but needs QB.
Assuming all values equal Team A give Team C - QB, Team C gives Team B - RB, Team B gives team A - WR.
On paper it could work but I can't imagine the three way discussions that would need to take place in order to satisfy 3 owners that they were all benefitting from the trade. I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm sure in person discussions over beer and wings will help immensely.
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Re: Three Ways!
Last year I was well out of contention really wanted to pry Latimer loose from his owner. I had Ladarius Green and Eric Ebron as spare parts, but he was in contention and wanted a "get points now" kind of WR so he wasn't biting. Since my points getting WR were Dez and OBJ, there wasn't going to be a fit.
So I offered Ladarius to the Antonio Gates owner in exchange for Marques Colston. That was good enough for the first owner, and now I've got my lottery ticket. Pretty easy deal to put together, and by doing the legwork between the three of us I generated some goodwill with the other owners. Colston did well enough for him down the stretch...although he did lose a squeaker in the finals.
So I offered Ladarius to the Antonio Gates owner in exchange for Marques Colston. That was good enough for the first owner, and now I've got my lottery ticket. Pretty easy deal to put together, and by doing the legwork between the three of us I generated some goodwill with the other owners. Colston did well enough for him down the stretch...although he did lose a squeaker in the finals.
I've never done a three way trade before - (but its a fantasy....right??)
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Re: Three Ways!
kate upton nina agdal & the clarion ... that is a 3way deal
like previous poster said it is fantasy
like previous poster said it is fantasy
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Re: Three Ways!
We have done it, quite often. We've used text/Facebook messenger to complete the deal then. Each team sends their trade to one another. Always have them "agree/sign" before completing the deal.
Only once did it go bad and most were thankful as it included a team getting Gabbert!
Only once did it go bad and most were thankful as it included a team getting Gabbert!
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Re: Three Ways!
I just completed a pretty huge 3-way trade, but the other two owners were a father and son that I've known for about 20 years, so it was mostly done via texts and phone calls, and even then, it took a while to hammer out the details so that everyone came away happy. I can imagine it'd be tricky in a league of mostly strangers.
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Re: Three Ways!
I've done a couple of 3 way trades, but I know a lot of the guys in my leagues and most of the time these go down over a bbq or something.
If you;re concerned about getting screwed with an owner backing out just email the commish the parameters of the trade, have each team confirm with the commish that they agree to the trade then proceed.
If you;re concerned about getting screwed with an owner backing out just email the commish the parameters of the trade, have each team confirm with the commish that they agree to the trade then proceed.
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