Duke Johnson's worth now
Duke Johnson
Based on game tape alone he is easily in my top 5 running backs. How serious are the concussions though? Those kind of injuries tend to be problematic long term, especially for running backs. Does he have any other injuries of note?
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Re: Duke Johnson
He's a bit small (which won't do any favors for his possible health issues), doesn't quite excel running inside, and his lack of competitive motivation in pass-protection will be a much bigger issue in the NFL. These items taken together have me worried on a fantasy-level that he'll be a long-term complimentary RB as a pro, not a featured or clear lead-runner.
But if he gets drafted to the right situation and blocking scheme, he could be great, sure. He has plenty of pros to go with those above cons, I'm just not mentioning them because I assume you already know them all.
As for other injuries, he broke his right ankle in 2013, and supposedly has a history of migraines, prompting one to wonder how careful Miami's trainers were in checking him for concussions.
But if he gets drafted to the right situation and blocking scheme, he could be great, sure. He has plenty of pros to go with those above cons, I'm just not mentioning them because I assume you already know them all.
As for other injuries, he broke his right ankle in 2013, and supposedly has a history of migraines, prompting one to wonder how careful Miami's trainers were in checking him for concussions.
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Re: Duke Johnson
Don't draft him. Tell your friends not to draft him. He's small, slow and always banged up. Ignore any nagging thoughts about how he kills tacklers at the second level, or how talent might not always be measurable with a stop watch or a scale. Let Duke be...
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Re: Duke Johnson
^^^^^Factory of Sadness wrote:Don't draft him. Tell your friends not to draft him. He's small, slow and always banged up. Ignore any nagging thoughts about how he kills tacklers at the second level, or how talent might not always be measurable with a stop watch or a scale. Let Duke be...
In fact, I think it best if you delete this post, so as not to make people waste their time thinking of this "Duke Johnson" guy.
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Re: Duke Johnson
Trying to do my due diligence. My issues are not with size or talent.
Team One:
Year 12
12 team, .5 ppr
QB 2RB 3WR TE FLEX K DL LB DB
QB - CJ Stroud
RB - Tank Bigsby, Sean Tucker, Chris Rodriguez, cans
WR - Garrett Wilson, Drake London, JSN, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore
TE - Kyle Pitts, Cade Otton, Chig Okonkwo
2024 Picks: 1.1, 1.2, 1.9, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.2, 3.7, 4.1
2025 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
Team Two:
Year 2
12 team, .5 ppr, SF
QB SF 2RB 3WR TE 2FLEX K
QB - Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones
RB - Roschon Johnson, Kendre Miller, streaming
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown, Chris Olave, Jaylen Waddle, Jordan Addison, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore, Wan’Dale Robinson
TE - Kyle Pitts, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Chig
2024 Picks: 1.08, 1.12, 4.1, 4.11
2025 Picks 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Year 12
12 team, .5 ppr
QB 2RB 3WR TE FLEX K DL LB DB
QB - CJ Stroud
RB - Tank Bigsby, Sean Tucker, Chris Rodriguez, cans
WR - Garrett Wilson, Drake London, JSN, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore
TE - Kyle Pitts, Cade Otton, Chig Okonkwo
2024 Picks: 1.1, 1.2, 1.9, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.2, 3.7, 4.1
2025 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
Team Two:
Year 2
12 team, .5 ppr, SF
QB SF 2RB 3WR TE 2FLEX K
QB - Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones
RB - Roschon Johnson, Kendre Miller, streaming
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown, Chris Olave, Jaylen Waddle, Jordan Addison, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore, Wan’Dale Robinson
TE - Kyle Pitts, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Chig
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Re: Duke Johnson
Well, as to your question on concussions, ask Jahvid Best what that can do to a career. Worst case scenario he's done with football later this year.
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Re: Duke Johnson
I think we need to keep this thread up. That way people can come here and see that Duke is a Terrible prospect that nobody should draft, ever. It is only right to warn unwitting souls about the terrible regret they will feel at drafting Duke Johnson.Irishdoom wrote:^^^^^Factory of Sadness wrote:Don't draft him. Tell your friends not to draft him. He's small, slow and always banged up. Ignore any nagging thoughts about how he kills tacklers at the second level, or how talent might not always be measurable with a stop watch or a scale. Let Duke be...
In fact, I think it best if you delete this post, so as not to make people waste their time thinking of this "Duke Johnson" guy.
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I'm adding this one so that Puke Johnson returns search results, too.
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Re: Duke Johnson
Why bother discussing him? He just doesn't do anything well. He's not even in the class of a Buck Allen.
Duke Johnson... the future?
So, plenty of us are thinking it - Duke's doomed because he's a Brown.
But has anyone seen him at camp before the injury? Think he's good enough to be take over the backfield someday? What's someday - this year or in a few years?
I'm trying to figure out how long I should hold him, wondering what his ceiling is like - even in that hideous situation.
Wondering if anyone's still high on him. Duke believers... do you exist?
But has anyone seen him at camp before the injury? Think he's good enough to be take over the backfield someday? What's someday - this year or in a few years?
I'm trying to figure out how long I should hold him, wondering what his ceiling is like - even in that hideous situation.
Wondering if anyone's still high on him. Duke believers... do you exist?
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Re: Duke Johnson... the future?
I'm a believer, especially in PPR leagues. Playing on a better team wouldn't hurt, but Browns should be passing quite a bit when they fall behind, which should benefit Duke the most.
I haven't drafted yet, but he's someone I'm targeting. Not sure why you're trying to figure out how long you should hold onto him, he hasn't even played a game. Why not see what you have first?
I haven't drafted yet, but he's someone I'm targeting. Not sure why you're trying to figure out how long you should hold onto him, he hasn't even played a game. Why not see what you have first?
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Re: Duke Johnson... the future?
Well, I had no plans to take him but I figured he was the best guy there out of the remaining giggles and fumes so I picked him up.edm1990 wrote:I'm a believer, especially in PPR leagues. Playing on a better team wouldn't hurt, but Browns should be passing quite a bit when they fall behind, which should benefit Duke the most.
I haven't drafted yet, but he's someone I'm targeting. Not sure why you're trying to figure out how long you should hold onto him, he hasn't even played a game. Why not see what you have first?
Not sure what to make of Duke except that I hope the Browns don't destroy his career.
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Re: Duke Johnson... the future?
Is Cleveland that bad? I mean, Trent Richardson managed a decent fantasy season there.
Re: Duke Johnson... the future?
If he doesn't shine within 3 years, history suggests he probably won't.
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