That was the issue, though, the slower you run it the easier it is.Jason3123 wrote:He coasted through it. Too easy for him.SuhFEAR wrote:
I'd like to see Parker's Gauntlet. I haven't found it online yet.
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If you don't think a 4.6 40 matters for a 205 back your crazy.
Abdullah is small. Had the highest fumble rate among notable rbs and it's because he has t-Rex hands. I wouldn't touch that guy in the top 20 even.
Abdullah is small. Had the highest fumble rate among notable rbs and it's because he has t-Rex hands. I wouldn't touch that guy in the top 20 even.
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Is there a place with video of the skill based drills for all or most of the prospects? I don't have a way to watch it real time but would like to watch some of the pass catching drills and such.
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Well, Abdullah never had breakaway speed, so it didn't tell me anything I didn't know. There aren't a lot of home run hitters in this draft.schiewerma21 wrote:If you don't think a 4.6 40 matters for a 205 back your crazy.
Abdullah is small. Had the highest fumble rate among notable rbs and it's because he has t-Rex hands. I wouldn't touch that guy in the top 20 even.
I went back and forth on Abdullah. Sometimes I don't get what's special, and then he looks like a pretty damn good RB. I like what he does in space, between the tackles and he's good at getting the yards he's not supposed to. He ran a 4.6 but on tape he plays fast, has excellent acceleration, good vision and he's a patient runner. Good football IQ and plays the right way as an RB.
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Kevin White sort of reminds me of Terrell Owens.
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I think the T.O. Comp belongs to Devante Davis in this class...Billy McFred wrote:Kevin White sort of reminds me of Terrell Owens.
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Shhhhhhhh!Plank wrote:I think the T.O. Comp belongs to Devante Davis in this class...Billy McFred wrote:Kevin White sort of reminds me of Terrell Owens.
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haha, I mean if he wasn't so slow and played like a pansy.Cameron Giles wrote:Shhhhhhhh!Plank wrote:I think the T.O. Comp belongs to Devante Davis in this class...Billy McFred wrote:Kevin White sort of reminds me of Terrell Owens.
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I'm still wondering why Duke didn't do the 3 cone, 20 yd shuttle .. I was really looking forward to seeing his agility ability..
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Yeah I'm disappointed with that too because his 40 time was a little disappointing. Still one of my favorite backs in the class.Plank wrote:I'm still wondering why Duke didn't do the 3 cone, 20 yd shuttle .. I was really looking forward to seeing his agility ability..
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I think Abdullah is the kind of back you'll want on your NFL team but maybe not your fantasy team. That could change of course if he ends up in a nice offense and they give him 4-6 catches a game.Cameron Giles wrote:Well, Abdullah never had breakaway speed, so it didn't tell me anything I didn't know. There aren't a lot of home run hitters in this draft.schiewerma21 wrote:If you don't think a 4.6 40 matters for a 205 back your crazy.
Abdullah is small. Had the highest fumble rate among notable rbs and it's because he has t-Rex hands. I wouldn't touch that guy in the top 20 even.
I went back and forth on Abdullah. Sometimes I don't get what's special, and then he looks like a pretty damn good RB. I like what he does in space, between the tackles and he's good at getting the yards he's not supposed to. He ran a 4.6 but on tape he plays fast, has excellent acceleration, good vision and he's a patient runner. Good football IQ and plays the right way as an RB.
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Billy McFred wrote:Kevin White sort of reminds me of Terrell Owens.
You mean he'll lead the league in passes dropped and is disruptive in the locker room? Jk, jk lol
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FantasyFreak wrote:Do you realize that despite Abudullah's 4.6, he bettered Jamaal Charles numbers in all the cone/shuttle drills? He is weighing in at over 205 lbs as well. That doesn't impress you at all? Those drills are way more representative of what matters to the position then running forward in a straight line. Besides, tape matters more. Game situations, and playing speed are a totally different animal. Kevin White is not faster on a football field than Amari Cooper. Not a chance. I mean, you can see a guy like Cobb or Robinson in a game are pretty slow, so their numbers shouldn't surprise you. Langford didn't impress you? He disappointed you. Really? What were you expecting from him exactly?SUGARRAYJOSE wrote:schiewerma21 wrote:Anyone else super dissappointed with some of the rbs 40?
I mean duke Johnson 4.55 and Abdullah and yeldon over a 4.6?
Even Melvin Gordon with a 4.52 and a 1.63 10 yard split.
Just left me feeling meh. Considering how much everyone hypes this rb class
I agree. All the Running backs disappointed me
Sorry I should have specified. All the "Tier one" and "Tier 2" Running backs disappointed me. I didn't have Langford in either of those tiers... And I get it from your previous post with the "Gordon's 4.5 was fine" that you absolutely love the guy. It's cool. There are a couple of guys in this draft that I really like too. But don't be so sensitive when people criticize him. I expected him to run like 4.45 at least. I don't remember who it was but someone was comparing him to Jamaal Charles. Well IMO he ain't no Jamaal Charles... Just difference of opinion that's all
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Gordon himself before the combine said he expected to run a 4.4 or 4.5. I think people need to understand he's like a bigger Jamaal Charles. He doesn't have the 4.4 time, but his shuttle drills are actually better. Short area quickness. That's what most were saying, like Jamaal Charles, not as much speed, but more power. He' has some JC to his game, but his game doesn't need to be compared to someone else's. Yes, I do love Gordon's game, and his time was to be expected. No problem, difference of opinions are what make it fun. I just think the 40 time is less important than the shuttle times, and Gordon had a knock of not being able to catch the ball, but he caught the ball really, really well. Naturally, effortlessly on all the routes. SO overall, he was impressive to me. Sure I wish he ran a 4.3, but I wasn't expecting it. He has been know to run in the 4.4's, and even in the 4.3's when he was lighter, but he's now at 215, and he's cut out of granite. I think Abdullah was excellent in every drill minus the 40, and that 40 time shouldn't overshadow how good every other time was.
Gordon himself before the combine said he expected to run a 4.4 or 4.5. I think people need to understand he's like a bigger Jamaal Charles. He doesn't have the 4.4 time, but his shuttle drills are actually better. Short area quickness. That's what most were saying, like Jamaal Charles, not as much speed, but more power. He' has some JC to his game, but his game doesn't need to be compared to someone else's. Yes, I do love Gordon's game, and his time was to be expected. No problem, difference of opinions are what make it fun. I just think the 40 time is less important than the shuttle times, and Gordon had a knock of not being able to catch the ball, but he caught the ball really, really well. Naturally, effortlessly on all the routes. SO overall, he was impressive to me. Sure I wish he ran a 4.3, but I wasn't expecting it. He has been know to run in the 4.4's, and even in the 4.3's when he was lighter, but he's now at 215, and he's cut out of granite. I think Abdullah was excellent in every drill minus the 40, and that 40 time shouldn't overshadow how good every other time was.
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Re: 2015 Combine Observations
So Abdullah being slow for a 230lb back doesn't worry you because the 40 isn't that important, but a stiff like Langford is all of a sudden good just because of his 40?
Basically the top 10 rbs were all slower than people would have guessed so it's obviously disappointing. Considering it was hyped up as the best rb class in 8 years, or whatever, it'd pretty hard to be that impressed. Is that really surprising to you?[/quote][/color]
You disregard all the other drills and focus on the 40, which has less to do with football than any other drill for a RB, so yes, I'm surprised you guys are so wrapped up about a 40 time, because the game of football isn't played on a track lane. The RB class is deep because they are good football players. The shuttle drills are way more important anyway, if you want combine results. And about Langford, I was saying that the 40 time was impressive because you guys were saying all the RB's disappointed you, and I was pointing out his good 40 time because so many of you seemed so concerned with the 40. I was saying, how does Langford's 40 disappoint what you expected?
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