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Would you rather own Pierre Garcon or DeAndre Hopkins?
Garcon or Hopkins
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Psycho Spiller
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Garcon or Hopkins
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins
I like Hopkins myself. I think he has tremendous upside & a great mentor in Andre Johnson. Garcon is too injury prone for my liking. Maybe it's a personal taste why I like Hopkins over Garcon.
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Space Cowboy
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins
Hopkins for me. I like garçon as a sell high along with Gronk, Julio, lynch, Charles, k wright and a brown.
Re: Garcon or Hopkins
Another vote for Nuk!
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins
Hopkins
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growskey23
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins
Hopkins! I like his talent more and I believe that he shows flashes this year that he is the heir to Andre Johnson's WR1 throne.
I also like Garcon. So its pretty close for me. I think he'll have another solid year in Jay Gruden's pass happy offense. But that's if he stays healthy. I think we'll see a lot of the same that we've already seen from him (which isn't a bad thing, just not a ton more potential growth).
I also like Garcon. So its pretty close for me. I think he'll have another solid year in Jay Gruden's pass happy offense. But that's if he stays healthy. I think we'll see a lot of the same that we've already seen from him (which isn't a bad thing, just not a ton more potential growth).
Re: Garcon or Hopkins
i prefer hopkins aswell.Space Cowboy wrote:Hopkins for me. I like garçon as a sell high along with Gronk, Julio, lynch, Charles, k wright and a brown.
im not sure how you can consider the majority of these guys as sell high guys. i guess charles, but the others are valued to the masses just how they should be or undervalued do to injuries or age...not really a sell high opportunity.
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1standgoal
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins
Julio a sell high. HaHaHaHa that's rich.
I prefer Hopkins. I sought him out as soon as trading opened up. This is the best time to get him.
I prefer Hopkins. I sought him out as soon as trading opened up. This is the best time to get him.
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins
^was just thinking that. Everyone does seem to be pretty bloody high on Julio though...
Garcon for me, he's a beast.
Garcon for me, he's a beast.
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lilpuppy99
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins
Julio is a beast, but hasn't he broke the same foot twice and plays on turf?
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1standgoal
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins
Yes, but the 2nd time it was a broken screw. It seems very fluky and I doubt it happens again.lilpuppy99 wrote:Julio is a beast, but hasn't he broke the same foot twice and plays on turf?
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins
Nuk. Never liked garcon too much. Streaky.
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins
Sell high means to sell a guy when his value is at it's max and couldn't go any higher, not smoke a doobie and trade a guy away. That may be a list of guys you would recommend selling, which is perfectly understandable. But I really don't think you'd be selling high when moving most of those guys.Space Cowboy wrote:Hopkins for me. I like garçon as a sell high along with Gronk, Julio, lynch, Charles, k wright and a brown.
Another vote for Nuk as well
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Gametime675
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Re: Garcon or Hopkins
I think that Garcon is one of the most undervalued WRs right now but I'd still lean towards Hopkins. Nuk's hands are elite and his route running was the best in last year's class. He doesn't wow you with his speed but can creat good separation and has that "my ball" mentality I love to see in receivers. I think the comparison to Roddy White is dead on, or maybe a slightly more explosive less powerful Boldin. Honestly, I don't understand the mentality that WR1s need to be 6'3"+ with speed and agility off the charts - no doubt Nuk can have some WR1 seasons.