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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby frerichs5 » Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:18 am

Mock drafts don’t really mean much, but it’s fun to think about some of the landing spots.

Daniel Jeremiah’s 2.0 mock draft:

2. Cam Ward - Browns
3. Travis Hunter - Giants
6. Shedeur Sanders - Raiders
7. Tyler Warren - Jets
19. Tet McMillan - Bucs
20. Colston Loveland - Broncos
21. Ashton Jeanty - Steelers
22. Omarion Hampton - Chargers
24. TreVeon Henderson - Vikings
25. Emeka Egbuka - Texans
30. Matthew Golden - Bills

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremia ... -draft-2-0

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby WOATjohn » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:25 am

frerichs5 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:18 am Mock drafts don’t really mean much, but it’s fun to think about some of the landing spots.

Daniel Jeremiah’s 2.0 mock draft:

2. Cam Ward - Browns
3. Travis Hunter - Giants
6. Shedeur Sanders - Raiders
7. Tyler Warren - Jets
19. Tet McMillan - Bucs
20. Colston Loveland - Broncos
21. Ashton Jeanty - Steelers
22. Omarion Hampton - Chargers
24. TreVeon Henderson - Vikings
25. Emeka Egbuka - Texans
30. Matthew Golden - Bills

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremia ... -draft-2-0
Egbuka being paired with Stroud would be great.
12tm SF/TEP
24 3rd - 23 1st - 22 3rd
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield
RB: Pollard, Jones, Tracy, Ekeler, Mattison
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Cooks, Mitchell
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, Sanders
1.12, 4.10

12tm PPR 1QB
Missed Playoffs
QB: LJax
RB: Breece, Bijan, R Johnson, McLaughlin
WR: Hill, Wilson, Higgins, D Smith, Jamo, Bateman, McCaffrey, Iosivas, Coker
TE: Andrews, Ferguson, Stover
1.02, 4.08

12tm SF/TEP
Rebuild
QB: McCarthy
RB: Benson, Charbonnet, Sanders
WR: MHJ, BTJ, Zay, Legette, Polk, Corley, Burton
TE: Sanders, Gray, Sinnott, Schoon
1.01, 1.03, 1.10, 1.11, 2.01, 2.04, 2.08, 2.10, 3.10, 3.11, 4.01, 4.10, 4.11

12tm PPR 1QB
Rebuild
QB: Richardson
RB: Achane, Tracy
WR: MHJ, BTJ, McConkey, Aiyuk, Pierce
TE: Freier, Kraft, Sanders, Strange
1.02, 2.02, 2.09, 3.02, 4.02
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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby tstafford » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:34 am

WOATjohn wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:25 am Egbuka being paired with Stroud would be great.
Curious where people are on Egbuka these days. He's consistently mocked in the late first. I could see that slipping possibly. But not too far.

My take - he's everything a coach wants. Runs good routes, doesn't drop a lot of balls and is a willing/capable blocker. High floor but low ceiling. Perennial low end WR2 for fantasy assuming a decent landing spot. In the same zone as Addison, Flowers, D. Smith in terms of fantasy utility. Seems like a decent pick in the late 1st in SF.

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby WOATjohn » Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:24 am

tstafford wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:34 am
WOATjohn wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:25 am Egbuka being paired with Stroud would be great.
Curious where people are on Egbuka these days. He's consistently mocked in the late first. I could see that slipping possibly. But not too far.

My take - he's everything a coach wants. Runs good routes, doesn't drop a lot of balls and is a willing/capable blocker. High floor but low ceiling. Perennial low end WR2 for fantasy assuming a decent landing spot. In the same zone as Addison, Flowers, D. Smith in terms of fantasy utility. Seems like a decent pick in the late 1st in SF.
As an Ohio State fan don’t listen to my bias opinion but I think he has the route running to be a WR1 for a team. He seemed to always be open when needed and that’s huge in the NFL. He’s a true leader as well and was patient his entire OSU career. He was always stuck behind amazing players so he was silently good and underrated.
12tm SF/TEP
24 3rd - 23 1st - 22 3rd
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield
RB: Pollard, Jones, Tracy, Ekeler, Mattison
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Cooks, Mitchell
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, Sanders
1.12, 4.10

12tm PPR 1QB
Missed Playoffs
QB: LJax
RB: Breece, Bijan, R Johnson, McLaughlin
WR: Hill, Wilson, Higgins, D Smith, Jamo, Bateman, McCaffrey, Iosivas, Coker
TE: Andrews, Ferguson, Stover
1.02, 4.08

12tm SF/TEP
Rebuild
QB: McCarthy
RB: Benson, Charbonnet, Sanders
WR: MHJ, BTJ, Zay, Legette, Polk, Corley, Burton
TE: Sanders, Gray, Sinnott, Schoon
1.01, 1.03, 1.10, 1.11, 2.01, 2.04, 2.08, 2.10, 3.10, 3.11, 4.01, 4.10, 4.11

12tm PPR 1QB
Rebuild
QB: Richardson
RB: Achane, Tracy
WR: MHJ, BTJ, McConkey, Aiyuk, Pierce
TE: Freier, Kraft, Sanders, Strange
1.02, 2.02, 2.09, 3.02, 4.02
x2 26 1st

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby 81- » Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:28 am

tstafford wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:34 am
WOATjohn wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:25 am Egbuka being paired with Stroud would be great.
Curious where people are on Egbuka these days. He's consistently mocked in the late first. I could see that slipping possibly. But not too far.

My take - he's everything a coach wants. Runs good routes, doesn't drop a lot of balls and is a willing/capable blocker. High floor but low ceiling. Perennial low end WR2 for fantasy assuming a decent landing spot. In the same zone as Addison, Flowers, D. Smith in terms of fantasy utility. Seems like a decent pick in the late 1st in SF.
Good but not Chase. Good hands. Athletic enough. Solid size. Good speed. Production wise. I predict 70-80 balls, 1000 yards and 6-12 td.

I'd likely take him at 1.06 if I wasn't planning on adding to my long in the tooth rb room this year.

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby Pullo Vision » Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:32 pm

frerichs5 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:18 am Mock drafts don’t really mean much, but it’s fun to think about some of the landing spots.

Daniel Jeremiah’s 2.0 mock draft:

2. Cam Ward - Browns
3. Travis Hunter - Giants
6. Shedeur Sanders - Raiders
7. Tyler Warren - Jets
19. Tet McMillan - Bucs
20. Colston Loveland - Broncos
21. Ashton Jeanty - Steelers
22. Omarion Hampton - Chargers
24. TreVeon Henderson - Vikings
25. Emeka Egbuka - Texans
30. Matthew Golden - Bills

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremia ... -draft-2-0
Before FA, I don't stress about landing spot. On the offense only side, two interesting points-
-first TE well ahead of first WR
-Burden falls out of first round, behind Egbuka and Golden
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def

League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby BabyChark23 » Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:36 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:32 pm -Burden falls out of first round, behind Egbuka and Golden
My Drake Maye shares like this!

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby DJB » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:34 am

I’ll be the first to say this, Burden appears at least on the field to get pretty upset with some poor body language.

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby BHSU » Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:15 am

DJB wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:34 am I’ll be the first to say this, Burden appears at least on the field to get pretty upset with some poor body language.

Take that for what you want
I mean, some might take that as a precursor of being an attitude problem/diva.... I personally take it as wanting to be great and competitive in nature. Now, if he was slouching around and dogging his routes when not the primary player on the play, then that's a whole other issue.

In fact, the lack of showing any kind of personality on field and quiet demeanor from MHJ kinda pushed me away (still would have drafted him high, just behind Nabers). Does he truly want to be great, or is he content living underneath his Dad's shadow?
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RB: Bijan Robinson/Jahmyr Gibbs/James Cook/Kenneth Walker III/James Conner/Travis Etienne/Jaylen Warren/Tyler Allgeier[color]

WR: ARSB/CeeDee Lamb/Brian Thomas JR/Drake London/JSN/Tee Higgins/Rome Odunze/Rashid Shaheed/Cedric Tillman/Jordan Whittington/Malik Washington


TE: TJ Hockenson/George Kittle/Mark Andrews/Tucker Kraft/Jatavion Sanders/Jared Wiley


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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby DJB » Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:41 am

BHSU wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:15 am
DJB wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:34 am I’ll be the first to say this, Burden appears at least on the field to get pretty upset with some poor body language.

Take that for what you want
I mean, some might take that as a precursor of being an attitude problem/diva.... I personally take it as wanting to be great and competitive in nature. Now, if he was slouching around and dogging his routes when not the primary player on the play, then that's a whole other issue.

In fact, the lack of showing any kind of personality on field and quiet demeanor from MHJ kinda pushed me away (still would have drafted him high, just behind Nabers). Does he truly want to be great, or is he content living underneath his Dad's shadow?
No question we love a dog, a guy that wants the ball, but it was just an observation I’ve made watching some film. I’m leaning more towards a slightly negative body language on the sideline . I don’t see him dog routes which is good
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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:36 am

DJB wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:34 am I’ll be the first to say this, Burden appears at least on the field to get pretty upset with some poor body language.

Take that for what you want
I remember Downs being like that

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby BHSU » Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:41 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:36 am
DJB wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:34 am I’ll be the first to say this, Burden appears at least on the field to get pretty upset with some poor body language.

Take that for what you want
I remember Downs being like that
I also remember Steve Smith being like that, AJB, etc
12 Team single QB PPR TEP (full point) league. No need to start a TE, but can flex them out. QB/RB1/RB2/WR1/WR2/WR3/3 flexes


QB: Jalen Hurts/Jordan Love/Caleb Williams


RB: Bijan Robinson/Jahmyr Gibbs/James Cook/Kenneth Walker III/James Conner/Travis Etienne/Jaylen Warren/Tyler Allgeier[color]

WR: ARSB/CeeDee Lamb/Brian Thomas JR/Drake London/JSN/Tee Higgins/Rome Odunze/Rashid Shaheed/Cedric Tillman/Jordan Whittington/Malik Washington


TE: TJ Hockenson/George Kittle/Mark Andrews/Tucker Kraft/Jatavion Sanders/Jared Wiley


Picks: 2.2/2.4/2.5/3.2/3.3/4.2/4.11

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby tstafford » Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:35 am

DJB wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:41 am
BHSU wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:15 am
DJB wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:34 am I’ll be the first to say this, Burden appears at least on the field to get pretty upset with some poor body language.

Take that for what you want
I mean, some might take that as a precursor of being an attitude problem/diva.... I personally take it as wanting to be great and competitive in nature. Now, if he was slouching around and dogging his routes when not the primary player on the play, then that's a whole other issue.

In fact, the lack of showing any kind of personality on field and quiet demeanor from MHJ kinda pushed me away (still would have drafted him high, just behind Nabers). Does he truly want to be great, or is he content living underneath his Dad's shadow?
No question we love a dog, a guy that wants the ball, but it was just an observation I’ve made watching some film. I’m leaning more towards a slightly negative body language on the sideline . I don’t see him dog routes which is good
Have you noticed that in the '24 film or also earlier? I ask because I think the system sort of nerfed him this year. I'd be pissed too if I was the clear WR1 going in to the season and the scheme made it hard to repeat the performance. I think Burden is likely to become a rookie draft value. I'm willing to take a shot that he's better than the '24 stats.

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby DJB » Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:56 pm

tstafford wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:35 am
DJB wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:41 am
BHSU wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:15 am

I mean, some might take that as a precursor of being an attitude problem/diva.... I personally take it as wanting to be great and competitive in nature. Now, if he was slouching around and dogging his routes when not the primary player on the play, then that's a whole other issue.

In fact, the lack of showing any kind of personality on field and quiet demeanor from MHJ kinda pushed me away (still would have drafted him high, just behind Nabers). Does he truly want to be great, or is he content living underneath his Dad's shadow?
No question we love a dog, a guy that wants the ball, but it was just an observation I’ve made watching some film. I’m leaning more towards a slightly negative body language on the sideline . I don’t see him dog routes which is good
Have you noticed that in the '24 film or also earlier? I ask because I think the system sort of nerfed him this year. I'd be pissed too if I was the clear WR1 going in to the season and the scheme made it hard to repeat the performance. I think Burden is likely to become a rookie draft value. I'm willing to take a shot that he's better than the '24 stats.
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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:57 am

BHSU wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:41 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:36 am
DJB wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:34 am I’ll be the first to say this, Burden appears at least on the field to get pretty upset with some poor body language.

Take that for what you want
I remember Downs being like that
I also remember Steve Smith being like that, AJB, etc
I don't recall either of those guys being gadget WR's, though. Essentially that's what Burden is. His advanced metrics back that up. AJB was a far superior player, in college, IMO. Not even close.

Burden may succeed, but he's risky. I am not sure he has the chops to be a traditional WR, and may have to go to a team that schemes him up like Deebo, which can obviously yield massive FF results. Fit will be really important for him. Going to a team with a good OC, who has shown the ability to use players to their strengths, rather than have them try to run "their system".

Burden is a playmaker, with the ball in his hands. I'm not sure he's a WR that's going to win on route running a whole lot, but if you can get this guy the ball, YAC is off the charts.

You watch, he'll go to KC and everyone will lose their minds, for a bunch of reasons. :lol:
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