Bucking the trend

[NathanielWegman]

G Wilson, Rashee, Rome, Higgins, JSN

Terry, DJM

D Smith, Flowers, DK, Worthy

These are the general tiers I would put them in. I didn’t spend a lot of time setting the order within the tiers, since I didn’t see that as particularly valuable in this situation. I could also be persuaded that Higgins and/or JSN should be dropped a tier down.

Fairly close to how I would tier them honestly. Maybe bump Devonta up a tier

Wilson & Rice are my likely targets if they make it back to me but I expect at least one to be gone

[wickerkat1212]

I'd probably take two when they come back—a veteran and a younger guy. Rice makes me a bit nervous. And I traded away Higgins, so I didn't have a ton of faith in him.

(Nabers)
(BTJ)

Wilson
JSN
(Harrison)
(Ladd)
(Odunze)
Higgins

DJM
Rice
Smith
Terry

Have the other rookie WRs gone? Nabers, Harrison, BTJ, Ladd?

[mikedigs]

But just curious how these WRs would rank

Higgins
JSN
G Wilson
Devonta Smith

DJM
McLaurin
DK
Flowers

Rashee
Rome
Worthy

[NathanielWegman]

I'd probably take two when they come back—a veteran and a younger guy. Rice makes me a bit nervous. And I traded away Higgins, so I didn't have a ton of faith in him.

(Nabers)
(BTJ)

Wilson
JSN
(Harrison)
(Ladd)
(Odunze)
Higgins

DJM
Rice
Smith
Terry

Have the other rookie WRs gone? Nabers, Harrison, BTJ, Ladd?

All the top rookie WR are gone…except Rome
Next tier of Pearsall, Leggette, Worthy are available

Rashee, Wilson, Higgins are gone now

Top ranked WR left,
McLaurin
Tyreek — little older than I wanna go
Evans — see Tyreek
JSN
Devonta
Adams — older than preferred
Sutton
Waddle
Jamo
DK — he’s burnt me to many times
DJM
Pickens.—Mr Unpredictable
Worthy
Olave
Rome
Godwin
Aiyuk
Deebo

I missed out on McBride, however, LaPorta keeps falling down the board and is available..just not sure how that offense looks without Ben Johnson calling plays

[FantasyFreak]

You can win SF leagues with guys like Carr, and Cousins (a few years ago). I did. Multiple times. You'd be surprised how cheap you can get as solid QB for cheaply, when a team with no prospects for winning for a few years has a guy in his early to mid 30's that is a starter, but not a top end Dynasty QB.

Take value. I agree with the picks. You can build a roster that can win for a few years, right out of the gate, with this approach, without selling your future.

I think Laporta is a top 10 TE for many years, as a floor. No harm in taking him, IMO.

Ben Johnson is a top end OC, but he also had an elite offensive roster. The replacement should do just fine, as long as he isn't a total idiot. He may even refrain from asking the dumbest player on their roster, who doesn't throw a football for a living, to throw a football, with their season on the line..... Remember when everyone thought Canales was the reason Baker was so good, 2 years ago?

Josh Allen kept on going, when Daboll left. (I do think he was a big part in his developmentm but Allen also just needed time, as a raw prospect).

We tend to over emphasize the coaches, with top end players, and rosters, sometimes. While Johnson is a top end guy, he's not irreplaceable, and that offense still has all the pieces it needs to continue it's success.

There's also the chance the new OC features him more, not less, than last year.

[NathanielWegman]

You can win SF leagues with guys like Carr, and Cousins (a few years ago). I did. Multiple times. You'd be surprised how cheap you can get as solid QB for cheaply, when a team with no prospects for winning for a few years has a guy in his early to mid 30's that is a starter, but not a top end Dynasty QB.

Take value. I agree with the picks. You can build a roster that can win for a few years, right out of the gate, with this approach, without selling your future.

I think Laporta is a top 10 TE for many years, as a floor. No harm in taking him, IMO.

Ben Johnson is a top end OC, but he also had an elite offensive roster. The replacement should do just fine, as long as he isn't a total idiot. He may even refrain from asking the dumbest player on their roster, who doesn't throw a football for a living, to throw a football, with their season on the line..... Remember when everyone thought Canales was the reason Baker was so good, 2 years ago?

Josh Allen kept on going, when Daboll left. (I do think he was a big part in his developmentm but Allen also just needed time, as a raw prospect).

We tend to over emphasize the coaches, with top end players, and rosters, sometimes. While Johnson is a top end guy, he's not irreplaceable, and that offense still has all the pieces it needs to continue it's success.

There's also the chance the new OC features him more, not less, than last year.

Very true..I’m not sure LaPorta makes it to me, halfway through the round at this point..I was thinking about attempting to trade up, but i haven’t found a price I’m comfortable with yet

How many years of high end production goes Mixon have left at RB? I don’t normally target a RB2 until the 7-10th round usually, I’m comfortable with the lower tier guys like a Spears, Etienne/Bigsby, Warren, Najee, Brian Robinson type at RB, especially since I could go RB with the 1.03 rookie pick this year to add some youth, if I feel that’s BPA

[Menace2010]

Given the TEP, I'm going big game hunting at TE if one's available and then hitting WR2 before going RB2. Just based on preference, even more so with 1.03 in this draft class...

[Prison_Mike]

Who are you playing with? Do they just throw ADP out the window?

AR in the 1st? (RD7 ADP...that's egregious regardless of someone's track record)
Multiple 2nd & 3rd round QBs taken in the top-10?
McBride available in RD4? (2.05 ADP)

[NathanielWegman]

Who are you playing with? Do they just throw ADP out the window?

AR in the 1st? (RD7 ADP...that's egregious regardless of someone's track record)
Multiple 2nd & 3rd round QBs taken in the top-10?
McBride available in RD4? (2.05 ADP)

ADP don’t matter to most of these guys. But they all have a fairly consistent track record of winning, as they’ve been recruited from multiple leagues im in.

The AR pick was shocking though…

With ADP, a lot of the time those rankings don’t factor in scoring for a SF league, as ADP users basic scoring.

Not sure who these “multiple QBs” in the top 10 are? (AR is the only one that is a major reach in a 12 team SF) the rest of the guys are 1st to early 2nd rounders in every startup I’ve done (3rd one this offseason so far)

[NathanielWegman]

Given the TEP, I'm going big game hunting at TE if one's available and then hitting WR2 before going RB2. Just based on preference, even more so with 1.03 in this draft class...

RB2 is almost always my last starting position to be filled..

I’m only a few picks away with LaPorta setting on the board *crosses fingers*

Unfortunately the last 8 picks have been WR so that pool is shrinking considerably

[Dude_Abides]

What is your team looking like so far? I like getting LaPorta if you can.

[Prison_Mike]

Who are you playing with? Do they just throw ADP out the window?

AR in the 1st? (RD7 ADP...that's egregious regardless of someone's track record)
Multiple 2nd & 3rd round QBs taken in the top-10?
McBride available in RD4? (2.05 ADP)

ADP don’t matter to most of these guys. But they all have a fairly consistent track record of winning, as they’ve been recruited from multiple leagues im in.

The AR pick was shocking though…

With ADP, a lot of the time those rankings don’t factor in scoring for a SF league, as ADP users basic scoring.

Not sure who these “multiple QBs” in the top 10 are? (AR is the only one that is a major reach in a 12 team SF) the rest of the guys are 1st to early 2nd rounders in every startup I’ve done (3rd one this offseason so far)

The early QB run is definitely the least egregious. I've done 3 startups this offseason so far too. I haven't seen a draft start off 11 straight QBs, again not super egregious, just pretty surprising/rare barring some crazy QB scoring

Yeah I use https://dynastydatalab.com/ for ADP. Its default setting for the data is pretty basic scoring and the same format as you have here (12tm PPR SF 0.5-TEP)

[wickerkat1212]

I'd go LaPorta and then whichever WR you like. I'd probably target Rome in the NEXT round (Fifth?) and snag a younger veteran after LaPorta if he's still there. Keep an eye out for great RB value if one falls, but I agree with other here going TE/WR next two picks.

[NathanielWegman]

I'd go LaPorta and then whichever WR you like. I'd probably target Rome in the NEXT round (Fifth?) and snag a younger veteran after LaPorta if he's still there. Keep an eye out for great RB value if one falls, but I agree with other here going TE/WR next two picks.

Unfortunately Rome nor LaPorta made it back to me..

Higgins
Wilson
Rice
Devonta
JSN
McLaurin
Evans
Rome
Then 2 RB
LaPorta
Zay Flowers

It come down to DJM or Worthy for me. I settled on DJM
Little while older was top 3TE in this format on a ppg basis, so I snagged him

Next round I’m gonna target another WR & then snag a younger TE

[wickerkat1212]

I'd go LaPorta and then whichever WR you like. I'd probably target Rome in the NEXT round (Fifth?) and snag a younger veteran after LaPorta if he's still there. Keep an eye out for great RB value if one falls, but I agree with other here going TE/WR next two picks.

Unfortunately Rome nor LaPorta made it back to me..

Higgins
Wilson
Rice
Devonta
JSN
McLaurin
Evans
Rome
Then 2 RB
LaPorta
Zay Flowers

It come down to DJM or Worthy for me. I settled on DJM
Little while older was top 3TE in this format on a ppg basis, so I snagged him

Next round I’m gonna target another WR & then snag a younger TE

I like DJM and he's a solid WR2 for you. I think he'll do well with Ben at HC, and has a lot of gas left in the tank.