Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

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Zay Flowers
2
8%
Brian Thomas Jr/25 1st
23
92%
 
Total votes: 25

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Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

Postby Peteey84 » Sun May 26, 2024 6:08 pm

Which side would you rather have?

Flowers or Brian Thomas Jr/251st
10 Team PPR
1QB/2Wr/2Rb/1TE/2Flex

QB: Herbert, Stafford
RB: Bijan, Walker, Charbonnet, Singletary, Allen
WR: Chase, ARSB, Aiyuk, Flowers, Evans, MHJ, Samuels, Wan’Dale
TE: Kelce

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Re: Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

Postby BucBuc » Sun May 26, 2024 6:29 pm

I’d rather have a 2025 1st over flowers so free BTJ sounds awesome
TEAM 1
12 Team Half PPR Superflex ..1Qb , 2Rb, 3Wr,1 Te, 2Flex 1Superflex 1Def
QBs: Dak,PenixBurrow
RBS: Bijan,Kamara,GibsonDillon,Penny,Ty Chandler,
WR:Lamb,Chase,AJB,Tee,DJM,Boyd
TE McBride,Geseiki
DEF Eagles, Broncos,

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Re: Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

Postby blemly » Sun May 26, 2024 7:29 pm

BucBuc wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 6:29 pm I’d rather have a 2025 1st over flowers so free BTJ sounds awesome
Depends on the 1st for me, but yea BTJ more than makes up for it.
Team 1 (Rebuild ): 12-tm SF 0.5PPR/1.0PP1D
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3


Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th


Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Watson, Jones
RB: JT, AK, Jacobs, Brooks, Benson, Zeke, Singletary
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Bowers, Schultz, Granson, Hill

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Re: Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

Postby TheTroll » Sun May 26, 2024 8:40 pm

OMG, this is a gift BTJ side easy
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

Postby Menace2010 » Mon May 27, 2024 12:23 am

Smash!

I'm high on BTJ, but even if I'm totally wrong and he misses, you still get a 1st.

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Re: Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

Postby Anteaters » Mon May 27, 2024 2:22 am

I'm not that high on BTJ, and I'd accept the deal. It's like two re-rolls of Zay when a player like him would only call for 1 re-roll.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
2023 semifinals loser

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Re: Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

Postby tstafford » Mon May 27, 2024 3:19 am

Anteaters wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 2:22 am I'm not that high on BTJ, and I'd accept the deal.
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Re: Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

Postby kellysheroes » Tue May 28, 2024 12:43 am

thats crazy

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Re: Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

Postby Mr. Reid » Tue May 28, 2024 4:47 am

Anteaters wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 2:22 am I'm not that high on BTJ, and I'd accept the deal. It's like two re-rolls of Zay when a player like him would only call for 1 re-roll.

I think the value is good, but not sure it’s a strong as everyone on here is saying. Flowers had a strong rookie season, feels like he’s clearly the WR1 in Baltimore.
14 Team SF (12 keepers)
1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 SF 1Flex K Def

QB - Lawerence, Purdy
RB - Gibson, Dowdle
WR - Chase, Lamb, Boyd
TE - Pitts

24 Picks - 1.6
25 Picks - (3) 1st rounders, (3) 2nd rounders

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Re: Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

Postby CGW » Tue May 28, 2024 5:11 am

That's a strong return for Flowers. I'd much rather have Zay than BTJ, but the 2025 1st more than makes up for it.

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Re: Zay Flowers vs Brian Thomas Jr.

Postby Anteaters » Tue May 28, 2024 6:16 am

Mr. Reid wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 4:47 am
Anteaters wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 2:22 am I'm not that high on BTJ, and I'd accept the deal. It's like two re-rolls of Zay when a player like him would only call for 1 re-roll.

I think the value is good, but not sure it’s a strong as everyone on here is saying. Flowers had a strong rookie season, feels like he’s clearly the WR1 in Baltimore.
Being the WR1 on a team under a regime (coach+GM) that's had a 1000yd receiver one year out of the last seven seasons doesn't necessarily guarantee the production we might assume from another team's WR1. Both during and before Lamar, Harbaugh simply isn't the sort of coach who airs it out. Even going back to 2016 for another 1000yd season, Mike Wallace only barely made it with 1017 yards. It's been 11 years since a WR had 1100 yards in Baltimore under Harbaugh.

That doesn't bode well for Flowers becoming a fantasy stud WR. He can be a useful piece on a fantasy team, but it is unlikely he puts up the sort of numbers comparable to the Top 12 WRs. Flowers was a high-end WR3 in 2023. He might improve those stats a bit, but I don't think it's possible for Flowers to do much better than low end WR2, especially now that Andrews is healthy and Henry is the RB1.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
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