Give: Puka, Kincaid
Get: Olave, JT, 2.12
This is for team 2 in my sig. What do you think?
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QB: Stroud, Murray, Hooker, Jimmy G
RB: Walker, Bijan Robinson, Pacheco, Charbonnet, Spears, Abanikanda, Tracy, Guerendo, Laube, Irving, Reese-Zammit
WR: Harrison Jr. , Coleman, Olave, Dotson, Burton, Corley, Mims, T. Palmer, B. Rice, Thrash, Washington
TE: Laporta, McBride, Parham
PS: Gore, A. Smith, Coker, J. Bell
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QB: Goff, Watson, Howell, Browning, Hall
RB: Gibbs, Stevenson, Cook, Ford, Hubbard, Laube, Llyod, Ford
WR: ARSB, Nacua, Worthy, Mitchell, Coleman, J. Williams, Jeudy, Dotson, Marshal, Boutee, Scott, A.Smith, Cowing
TE: Kincaid, Knox, Otton, Kuntz
PS: Rattler, All, T. Johnson, C. Johnson
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Re: Huge Trade!!!!
Olave side seems safer…I’d prolly go Puka side if it were TE Prem.
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RB: Zeke/Ford
WR: StBrown/Waddle/Flowers/Kirk/Hopkins
TE: Kelce/McBride/Knox
12 Team-SuperFlex-1.0 PPR
QB: Lamar/Watson/Geno
RB: Bijan/JT/Kamara/Chuba
WR: AJB/London/Diggs/Kirk/Palmer
TE: Ferguson
QB: TLaw/Love/Penix/JimmyG
RB: Zeke/Ford
WR: StBrown/Waddle/Flowers/Kirk/Hopkins
TE: Kelce/McBride/Knox
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WR: AJB/London/Diggs/Kirk/Palmer
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Re: Huge Trade!!!!
Olave side/ NEC.
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2016: 4th
2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st
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Re: Huge Trade!!!!
Puka side, Olave is over-valued by the community right now.
Olave owners dream of a day when Olave can come close to Puka rookie season.
Olave owners dream of a day when Olave can come close to Puka rookie season.
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Olave should see 150 plus targets this year with a better scheme. Do you think Puka ever hits those numbers again?MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:13 pm Puka side, Olave is over-valued by the community right now.
Olave owners dream of a day when Olave can come close to Puka rookie season.
I think their production will be very similar this season, personally.
Olave had 87/1123/5 with a game missed. That's likely his floor this season. The TD's are the big question mark for him, with me. I think he pushes 100 catches this year, assuming health.
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Re: Huge Trade!!!!
I'm in this boat, too. I think the gap between Puka and Olave is much, much, much smaller than the gap between Kincaid and JT. I'll happily take the massive JT upgrade for the smaller Olave downgrade.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:18 pmOlave should see 150 plus targets this year with a better scheme. Do you think Puka ever hits those numbers again?MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:13 pm Puka side, Olave is over-valued by the community right now.
Olave owners dream of a day when Olave can come close to Puka rookie season.
I think their production will be very similar this season, personally.
Olave had 87/1123/5 with a game missed. That's likely his floor this season. The TD's are the big question mark for him, with me. I think he pushes 100 catches this year, assuming health.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
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QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
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Re: Huge Trade!!!!
This leaves you really strapped at TE though, do you have something planned to address that? I think the downgrade from Kincaid to Kraft or whoever you're starting there is much worse than the downgrade from say JT to Rhamondre.
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QB: Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Kyren Williams, Devon Achane, Derrick Henry, Jaylen Warren
WR: CeeDee Lamb, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Drake London, Tee Higgins, Hollywood Brown, Ricky Pearsall
TE: George Kittle, Brock Bowers, Pat Freiermuth
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2026: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Kyren Williams, Devon Achane, Derrick Henry, Jaylen Warren
WR: CeeDee Lamb, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Drake London, Tee Higgins, Hollywood Brown, Ricky Pearsall
TE: George Kittle, Brock Bowers, Pat Freiermuth
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2026: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
Re: Huge Trade!!!!
I'm doing that all day. Puka/Olave is a wash. JT is a huge upgrade and this isn't TEP. Go trade a 2nd for some older productive TE in season if you need
Re: Huge Trade!!!!
Olave/JT for me
Team 1
10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Z Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champ
2022 Champ
2023 Champ
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10
Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Swift, Estime, Irving Foreman, Mattison
Wr - Wilson, AJB, London, JSN Downs, Polk, R Wilson, Mims, Shaheed, McMillan, Palmer, Douglas
Te - Pitts, Goedert Bowers, Fant, All, Wiley
Dl - Gary, Greenard Latu, Mafe, Karlaftis
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Curl, Sainristil
10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Z Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champ
2022 Champ
2023 Champ
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10
Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Swift, Estime, Irving Foreman, Mattison
Wr - Wilson, AJB, London, JSN Downs, Polk, R Wilson, Mims, Shaheed, McMillan, Palmer, Douglas
Te - Pitts, Goedert Bowers, Fant, All, Wiley
Dl - Gary, Greenard Latu, Mafe, Karlaftis
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Curl, Sainristil
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Re: Huge Trade!!!!
In dynasty, I look at more than the current season.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:18 pmOlave should see 150 plus targets this year with a better scheme. Do you think Puka ever hits those numbers again?MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:13 pm Puka side, Olave is over-valued by the community right now.
Olave owners dream of a day when Olave can come close to Puka rookie season.
I think their production will be very similar this season, personally.
Olave had 87/1123/5 with a game missed. That's likely his floor this season. The TD's are the big question mark for him, with me. I think he pushes 100 catches this year, assuming health.
Yes, Olave again has no competition for targets, and probably finishes as a WR2 again in 2024.
When looking at Olave's advanced metrics, opportunity share is his greatest strength.
His productivity and efficiency metrics are not nearly as strong.
So if you believe that the Saints will never draft another quality receiver in the next 3 years, than I would have the gap between Puka and Olave much closer. Personally, I believe that the Saints will spend another top pick on a WR sooner rather than later.
Once competition arrives, if Olave loses some targets, he could easily drop in rankings due to his efficiency and productivity numbers.
That is why I say that Olave is over-valued, because his numbers are currently inflated due to lack of target competition.
For Redraft purposes, I like Olave in 2024, however, we are discussing Dynasty here.
Re: Huge Trade!!!!
Olave side by a country mile here
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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do you really think puka won't have exactly the same issue? there is no chance imo puka gets close to the amount of targets he did last year with a healthy cooper kupp around. i personally think olave will be higher than puka on his own but at minimum i think the two are a washMacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 11:26 amIn dynasty, I look at more than the current season.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:18 pmOlave should see 150 plus targets this year with a better scheme. Do you think Puka ever hits those numbers again?MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:13 pm Puka side, Olave is over-valued by the community right now.
Olave owners dream of a day when Olave can come close to Puka rookie season.
I think their production will be very similar this season, personally.
Olave had 87/1123/5 with a game missed. That's likely his floor this season. The TD's are the big question mark for him, with me. I think he pushes 100 catches this year, assuming health.
Yes, Olave again has no competition for targets, and probably finishes as a WR2 again in 2024.
When looking at Olave's advanced metrics, opportunity share is his greatest strength.
His productivity and efficiency metrics are not nearly as strong.
So if you believe that the Saints will never draft another quality receiver in the next 3 years, than I would have the gap between Puka and Olave much closer. Personally, I believe that the Saints will spend another top pick on a WR sooner rather than later.
Once competition arrives, if Olave loses some targets, he could easily drop in rankings due to his efficiency and productivity numbers.
That is why I say that Olave is over-valued, because his numbers are currently inflated due to lack of target competition.
For Redraft purposes, I like Olave in 2024, however, we are discussing Dynasty here.
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Re: Huge Trade!!!!
Do you really think Kupp will be healthy in 2024?knotts4372 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 4:48 pmdo you really think puka won't have exactly the same issue? there is no chance imo puka gets close to the amount of targets he did last year with a healthy cooper kupp around. i personally think olave will be higher than puka on his own but at minimum i think the two are a washMacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 11:26 amIn dynasty, I look at more than the current season.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:18 pm
Olave should see 150 plus targets this year with a better scheme. Do you think Puka ever hits those numbers again?
I think their production will be very similar this season, personally.
Olave had 87/1123/5 with a game missed. That's likely his floor this season. The TD's are the big question mark for him, with me. I think he pushes 100 catches this year, assuming health.
Yes, Olave again has no competition for targets, and probably finishes as a WR2 again in 2024.
When looking at Olave's advanced metrics, opportunity share is his greatest strength.
His productivity and efficiency metrics are not nearly as strong.
So if you believe that the Saints will never draft another quality receiver in the next 3 years, than I would have the gap between Puka and Olave much closer. Personally, I believe that the Saints will spend another top pick on a WR sooner rather than later.
Once competition arrives, if Olave loses some targets, he could easily drop in rankings due to his efficiency and productivity numbers.
That is why I say that Olave is over-valued, because his numbers are currently inflated due to lack of target competition.
For Redraft purposes, I like Olave in 2024, however, we are discussing Dynasty here.
Michael Thomas never seemed to fully recover from that "tightrope" ankle surgery he had a few years ago.
Kupp is the only other NFL player I am aware of that has had that same surgery, and he didn't look so good last year.
I am fading Kupp in redraft, and will continue to fade tightrope surgery recipients until I see proof that the doctors have figured out how to do it right.
I mean torn ACL's used to be career ending surgeries.
Not anymore, as the medical profession has gotten much better with knees.
When they prove they have gotten better with ankles, I won't worry as much.
Re: Huge Trade!!!!
Fairly close for me..
Give me Puka and Kincaid though, especially with where this would leave your team.
Give me Puka and Kincaid though, especially with where this would leave your team.
Tm 1
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Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
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Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
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Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
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14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
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