12 team league, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 non QB flex, for team 1 below. Related to previous posts, but I wanted some input on Pickens and the Steelers WR room and offense in general. First, do you view Pickens as a buy? He's the team's #1 right now and if that remains the case, I think he's a buy given opportunity and QB upgrade. However, I'm a little nervous that the Steelers trade for someone that immediately becomes a threat to Pickens target share. I know Deebo, Aiyuk and DK were all rumored at some point this offseason already. They drafted Roman Wilson but I don't view him as a big threat to Pickens. Would you wait to acquire Pickens (if you view him as a buy), or get him now? Arthur Smith as OC isn't ideal for WRs, but I still think Pickens could produce solid numbers, if he's the #1.
The deal that I'm considering is offering Andrews and either Spears or some mid round picks for Pickens, Pacheco and Geno Smith (just so I have a slightly better backup QB). The other owner has no TEs and no significant draft capital.
Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
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Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
Team 1:
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
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Re: Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
I think Pickens is a good investment right now. Especially for that price.
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QB: Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Kyren Williams, Devon Achane, Derrick Henry, Jaylen Warren
WR: CeeDee Lamb, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Drake London, Tee Higgins, Hollywood Brown, Ricky Pearsall
TE: George Kittle, Brock Bowers, Pat Freiermuth
Picks:
2025: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
2026: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Kyren Williams, Devon Achane, Derrick Henry, Jaylen Warren
WR: CeeDee Lamb, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Drake London, Tee Higgins, Hollywood Brown, Ricky Pearsall
TE: George Kittle, Brock Bowers, Pat Freiermuth
Picks:
2025: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
2026: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
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Re: Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
I’m not a Pickens guy and think he is wildly overvalued based on the trades I’ve seen go down. Sure, he got a “qb upgrade”, but his QBs are still bad (their former teams just dropped them or traded them away for nothing). I also don’t belive he has the ceiling some think
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Re: Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
I completely agree his new QBs are still terrible. This is not a move I need to make, but just seeing if the value is there and it makes sense for my team. I am undecided on Andrews. I still think he is the 1A passing option on that team with Flowers being 1B, with Andrews being the clear red zone preference when throwing. As far as Pickens goes, I've seen the box scores but haven't watched him play enough to confidently say he will be great or won't be or is very overvalued.BabyChark23 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 6:51 am I’m not a Pickens guy and think he is wildly overvalued based on the trades I’ve seen go down. Sure, he got a “qb upgrade”, but his QBs are still bad (their former teams just dropped them or traded them away for nothing). I also don’t belive he has the ceiling some think
Team 1:
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
Re: Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
I think you're undervaluing Pacheco in that deal. I don't think it gets accepted the way you lay it out.
Pickens = Andrews
Pacheco >>> Spears
Not to mention Geno
Note: I'm a Spears truther!
Pickens = Andrews
Pacheco >>> Spears
Not to mention Geno
Note: I'm a Spears truther!
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Re: Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
You may/(probably are) be correct. I am hoping his glaring need for a TE will help give me leverage in this deal. I don't really want to give up Spears, but I trust Pacheco a lot more to succeed this year. I'm also not sold on giving up Andrews at this point and may trade back from 1.04 instead of taking Bowers.
Team 1:
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
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Re: Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
For my team, would you hold Andrews? Or is there someone else in particular you would pursue?BabyChark23 wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 6:51 am I’m not a Pickens guy and think he is wildly overvalued based on the trades I’ve seen go down. Sure, he got a “qb upgrade”, but his QBs are still bad (their former teams just dropped them or traded them away for nothing). I also don’t belive he has the ceiling some think
Team 1:
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
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Re: Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
id hit them up about their interest in an andrews pickens+ type deal and go from there.
im absurdly high on pickens and have been and continue to be baffled as to his low valuation and people being so unsure of him. hes a screaming buy and someone i own a ton of and continue to buy more.
make it make sense that a dude is a 2nd year player, 22 years old, 2nd round draft capital to a team that is known for finding great wrs and having awesome developmental skills, has to deal with a trio of qbs changing every few weeks all of whom are backup qbs (russ went from starter to starter hate him or love him), catches 5 of the teams 13 total passing tds, comes in 16th in THE ENTIRE NFL IN RECIEVING YARDS (remember that horrible qb trio we just discussed, they passed for a total of 3421, of which pickens had 1140), and then goes in startups in the pick 55-70 range as the WR22.
we love exciting alpha build wrs with huge target share and big play upside...but not if their name is george pickens for some reason.
im absurdly high on pickens and have been and continue to be baffled as to his low valuation and people being so unsure of him. hes a screaming buy and someone i own a ton of and continue to buy more.
make it make sense that a dude is a 2nd year player, 22 years old, 2nd round draft capital to a team that is known for finding great wrs and having awesome developmental skills, has to deal with a trio of qbs changing every few weeks all of whom are backup qbs (russ went from starter to starter hate him or love him), catches 5 of the teams 13 total passing tds, comes in 16th in THE ENTIRE NFL IN RECIEVING YARDS (remember that horrible qb trio we just discussed, they passed for a total of 3421, of which pickens had 1140), and then goes in startups in the pick 55-70 range as the WR22.
we love exciting alpha build wrs with huge target share and big play upside...but not if their name is george pickens for some reason.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
He is correct. Go with this logic.Randomguess wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 7:32 amYou may/(probably are) be correct. I am hoping his glaring need for a TE will help give me leverage in this deal. I don't really want to give up Spears, but I trust Pacheco a lot more to succeed this year. I'm also not sold on giving up Andrews at this point and may trade back from 1.04 instead of taking Bowers.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
So if the other owner is willing to accept Andrews and Spears, would you make the move for Pacheco, Pickens and Geno? Or would you still hold onto Andrews, regardless?TheTroll wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 3:07 pmHe is correct. Go with this logic.Randomguess wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 7:32 amYou may/(probably are) be correct. I am hoping his glaring need for a TE will help give me leverage in this deal. I don't really want to give up Spears, but I trust Pacheco a lot more to succeed this year. I'm also not sold on giving up Andrews at this point and may trade back from 1.04 instead of taking Bowers.
Team 1:
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
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Re: Safe to trade for Pickens now? (Will Steelers add another WR?)
...but if the other owner is on board, would you move Andrews and Spears for those 3? I'd need another TE at some point. 1.04 maybe Bowers.
Team 1:
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
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