Easy reject or am I too high on DJ?

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Re: Easy reject or am I too high on DJ?

Postby Black Adam » Thu May 23, 2024 4:40 pm

Prison_Mike wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 3:26 pm
The deal is still alive. He’s thinking it over (has been for a while). I’ve removed the 3rd. Current deal on the table is: Jacobs/J.Baker/2nd for DK/Jones
Go get your guys I guess. :whistle:
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Re: Easy reject or am I too high on DJ?

Postby MacDaddy123 » Thu May 23, 2024 10:07 pm

Prison_Mike wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 3:26 pm
MacDaddy123 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 2:54 pm
Prison_Mike wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 6:30 am

It's a ridiculous overpay because of how they're priced. Whether you look at ADP or trade value, Jacobs valuation is much higher than Jones. If I went to the grocery store and they were charging $20 for a dozen eggs, I wouldn't say "fine I'll pay that, I got 30% off on the milk." Same with this deal, if Jones (who I don't need) is spiking the cost of the foundation of the deal - Metcalf/Jacobs - I'll simply look elsewhere for QB depth, rather than pay above market for a guy who most of us don't have much confidence in as an asset beyond this year.

Again, the foundation of the trade is Jacobs for Metcalf. Not only because they're back to back in ADP, but because of the teams' respective deficiencies (I'm thin @ WR, he's thin @ RB...and fwiw, he's thinner at RB than I am at WR). The most I would probably pay to make that swap is the 2nd/3rd swap in his favor. Gun to my head, maybe I take out the 3rd.

Also, the added context here is that my trade partner put Jones on the block on Tuesday and said "best offer in 24 hours gets him." I sent my initial offer on Wednesday. I threw in Jones and some ancillary pieces in case he didn't have much of a market (based on the fact that he hadn't traded him yet, I figured that was the case) and was really motivated to move him. I looked at ADP to construct my original offer:

Jacobs/Metcalf - 5.08/5.10
Jones/Baker - 12.12/15.10
2nd/3rd swap to balance it out
That's all you need to say, you don't need another QB.
No need even to start this thread.
Normally I don't ask for help in going after players that don't interest me.

Basically, to wrap up, you were interested in DJ if the other manager was going to just give you DJ.
Looks like he balked, and wanted fair value for DJ, at which point you decided that you didn't want DJ at market price.
Deals like this fall through thousands of times a day. Move on.

I'm not sure how Baker came into this conversation, as my remarks were about your original deal, with Diontae, no Baker.
Sorry for any confusion in the title - the question was whether I was too high on Diontae Johnson, not Daniel Jones. Poor phrasing by calling him DJ in this particular instance lol. I was reluctant on his counter and wanted to ask others’ opinions on the deal that was sent back.

My original deal involved Baker, not Diontae

The deal is still alive. He’s thinking it over (has been for a while). I’ve removed the 3rd. Current deal on the table is: Jacobs/J.Baker/2nd for DK/Jones
Yes, that was confusing. I read DJ as Daniel Jones.
When you are talking about a trade involving 2 DJ's, you should try to be more specific. lol

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Re: Easy reject or am I too high on DJ?

Postby TheTroll » Fri May 24, 2024 11:10 am

Black Adam wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:40 pm
Prison_Mike wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 3:26 pm
The deal is still alive. He’s thinking it over (has been for a while). I’ve removed the 3rd. Current deal on the table is: Jacobs/J.Baker/2nd for DK/Jones
Go get your guys I guess. :whistle:
:) agreed
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Re: Easy reject or am I too high on DJ?

Postby Prison_Mike » Tue May 28, 2024 8:45 am

TheTroll wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 11:10 am
Black Adam wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:40 pm
Prison_Mike wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 3:26 pm
The deal is still alive. He’s thinking it over (has been for a while). I’ve removed the 3rd. Current deal on the table is: Jacobs/J.Baker/2nd for DK/Jones
Go get your guys I guess. :whistle:
:) agreed
Deal got done (my original offer)

Gave: Jacobs + J.Baker + '25 2nd
Got: Metcalf + Jones + '25 3rd

(I think he forgot I offered to remove the 3rd)
Already have an interested buyer on Jones, but I'll hold for now unless I get a legitimate offer

I know it wasn't a smash but since my roster is built on RBs, its value is super volatile. I figure if I can turn an aging top-24 RB into a top-24 WR, I should probably do so to extend my window. Jones is just a low stakes bet that his value increases in-season.

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Re: Easy reject or am I too high on DJ?

Postby MacDaddy123 » Tue May 28, 2024 8:36 pm

Prison_Mike wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 8:45 am
TheTroll wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 11:10 am
Black Adam wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:40 pm

Go get your guys I guess. :whistle:
:) agreed
Deal got done (my original offer)

Gave: Jacobs + J.Baker + '25 2nd
Got: Metcalf + Jones + '25 3rd

(I think he forgot I offered to remove the 3rd)
Already have an interested buyer on Jones, but I'll hold for now unless I get a legitimate offer

I know it wasn't a smash but since my roster is built on RBs, its value is super volatile. I figure if I can turn an aging top-24 RB into a top-24 WR, I should probably do so to extend my window. Jones is just a low stakes bet that his value increases in-season.
Good trade


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