1QB 14 Team Half PPR Start 7
I had been discussing a trade that would get me into the top 3 to get Odunze who I am very high on. It came down to crunch time and we ended up with what I thought was a fair deal for both sides.
Gave: 1.06 (Brooks) + 1.07 (BTJ) + 3.06 (McMillan)
Got: 1.03 (Odunze) + 1.13 (Caleb) + 1.14 (Pearsall)
I also still had my 1.04 and 2.04. Originally, I was targeting Bowers at 1.04, Brooks at 6 and BTJ at 7. I started to feel off about BTJ as he feels like he has plenty of bust potential. I loved Brooks but saw it as the cost of tiering BTJ up to Odunze who I like so much more. Funny side note, this deal was only made with a promise by me that I would not take Brooks at 4, otherwise I honestly may have.
The other owner did get Brooks and BTJ at those picks I sent them. I got Odunze at 3, Bowers at 4 then Caleb Williams fell to me at 1.13 so I took him there and then took Pearsall at 1.14.
I felt really good about how everything shook out but I ask because I got some heat from a few leaguemates telling me that I made a big mistake with this move. That doesn’t bother me. I’m more just curious if the general public sees it the same way or if my leaguemates’ values are just off (which tends to happen often). Thoughts?
Did I mess up my draft??
Did I mess up my draft??
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes, Caleb Williams
RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, T. Tracy
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs
Picks:
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd
2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes, Caleb Williams
RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, T. Tracy
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs
Picks:
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd
2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Re: Did I mess up my draft??
Your league mates are idiots you ripped him off.
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Re: Did I mess up my draft??
In a start 7, give me the best asset which is Odunze. BTJ most likely never going to crack your lineup. If you were thin at RB, maybe its closer but you're fine there.
10 Team, PPR, 27 roster: 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Kyren Williams, Devon Achane, Derrick Henry, Jaylen Warren
WR: CeeDee Lamb, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Drake London, Tee Higgins, Hollywood Brown, Ricky Pearsall
TE: George Kittle, Brock Bowers, Pat Freiermuth
Picks:
2025: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
2026: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Kyren Williams, Devon Achane, Derrick Henry, Jaylen Warren
WR: CeeDee Lamb, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Drake London, Tee Higgins, Hollywood Brown, Ricky Pearsall
TE: George Kittle, Brock Bowers, Pat Freiermuth
Picks:
2025: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
2026: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th
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Re: Did I mess up my draft??
Yep, basically
Odunze >> Brooks
BTJ = Pearsall - BTj is the hotter name but they’re similar in terms of athleticism and draft capital
Caleb >>>>> McMillian - 14 team league with low amount of starters makes qbs much more valuable even in a 1 qb league
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Re: Did I mess up my draft??
Piling on and adding:
In your league's format, I'd rather have C Williams than BTJ.
In your league's format, I'd rather have C Williams than BTJ.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)
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Re: Did I mess up my draft??
you got the highest first and 3 of em for 2. makes no sense at all and you robbed him haha.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: Did I mess up my draft??
well done, great picks
D3:
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman
Re: Did I mess up my draft??
I didn’t even think of this/notice it was this shallow. 14 team Start 7 Caleb would be my 1.05 after bowers.moishetreats wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 11:48 am Piling on and adding:
In your league's format, I'd rather have C Williams than BTJ.
Such an extra premium on qb and te when they’re 1/7 of the lineup, could argue bowers over odunze, glad you weren’t able to take Brooks, that would’ve been a mistake IMO.
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Re: Did I mess up my draft??
I'd say give it 3 years and ask this question again.
People making win/loss claims on assumed production is just pointless really at this point in time.
I mean until people see Odunze, BTJ, Brooks, and Caleb actually play NFL games, no one knows which side did better.
I wouldn't say that you messed up your draft, but I also wouldn't say you made out like a bandit.
Too many unknown variables to make any firm declarations in May 2024 on these players.
People making win/loss claims on assumed production is just pointless really at this point in time.
I mean until people see Odunze, BTJ, Brooks, and Caleb actually play NFL games, no one knows which side did better.
I wouldn't say that you messed up your draft, but I also wouldn't say you made out like a bandit.
Too many unknown variables to make any firm declarations in May 2024 on these players.
Re: Did I mess up my draft??
I agree for sure. I just meant based on the current values based on how these prospects are looked at in the community. I think my league undervalues QBs a bit. They tend to draft for need over value and they really only take a shot on one if they really need one. The 1st round of this draft was dominated by teams that felt they were completely set at QB so I’ll gladly take Caleb falling to 13. The trade can easily turn out several different ways but I was trying to gauge whether the move seemed right for my specific team and the overall value.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:34 pm I'd say give it 3 years and ask this question again.
People making win/loss claims on assumed production is just pointless really at this point in time.
I mean until people see Odunze, BTJ, Brooks, and Caleb actually play NFL games, no one knows which side did better.
I wouldn't say that you messed up your draft, but I also wouldn't say you made out like a bandit.
Too many unknown variables to make any firm declarations in May 2024 on these players.
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes, Caleb Williams
RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, T. Tracy
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs
Picks:
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd
2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes, Caleb Williams
RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, T. Tracy
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs
Picks:
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd
2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd
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Re: Did I mess up my draft??
I agree with this. Sometimes the overwhelming consensus on rookie picks is just dead wrongMacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:34 pm I'd say give it 3 years and ask this question again.
People making win/loss claims on assumed production is just pointless really at this point in time.
I mean until people see Odunze, BTJ, Brooks, and Caleb actually play NFL games, no one knows which side did better.
I wouldn't say that you messed up your draft, but I also wouldn't say you made out like a bandit.
Too many unknown variables to make any firm declarations in May 2024 on these players.
12 Team Superflex Best Ball PPR TEP +1.5
QB: Kyler, Tua, O’Connell
RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Pacheco, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
WR: London, Higgins, Pickens, Tank Dell, Quentin Johnston, Ricky Pearsall, Troy Franklin
TE: McBride, Freiermuth
QB: Kyler, Tua, O’Connell
RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Pacheco, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
WR: London, Higgins, Pickens, Tank Dell, Quentin Johnston, Ricky Pearsall, Troy Franklin
TE: McBride, Freiermuth
Re: Did I mess up my draft??
The other owner felt the depth of the draft fell off completely right around the 1.09-1.10 in 1QB. I was fine letting him think that. I thought for sure he was going to ask for my 2.04 back on my end but he never did.BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 11:49 am you got the highest first and 3 of em for 2. makes no sense at all and you robbed him haha.
RBs are very tough in the league. They are hoarded. Especially the elite young ones. Odunze to the bears made him really sour on his 1.03 for some reason and he was all in on Brooks as the top RB in the draft. I think that’s where his mindset was when making the trade. Give 1 top end pick and 2 low quality (in his mind) picks for 2 high end picks.
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes, Caleb Williams
RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, T. Tracy
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs
Picks:
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd
2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes, Caleb Williams
RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, T. Tracy
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs
Picks:
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd
2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd
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Re: Did I mess up my draft??
Based on current values, no, you did not mess up your draft.Gazzerk wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:58 pmI agree for sure. I just meant based on the current values based on how these prospects are looked at in the community. I think my league undervalues QBs a bit. They tend to draft for need over value and they really only take a shot on one if they really need one. The 1st round of this draft was dominated by teams that felt they were completely set at QB so I’ll gladly take Caleb falling to 13. The trade can easily turn out several different ways but I was trying to gauge whether the move seemed right for my specific team and the overall value.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:34 pm I'd say give it 3 years and ask this question again.
People making win/loss claims on assumed production is just pointless really at this point in time.
I mean until people see Odunze, BTJ, Brooks, and Caleb actually play NFL games, no one knows which side did better.
I wouldn't say that you messed up your draft, but I also wouldn't say you made out like a bandit.
Too many unknown variables to make any firm declarations in May 2024 on these players.
About all that can be said at this point in time.
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