Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

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What order would you rank them

1. Bowers 2. Kincaid 3. Pitts
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15%
1. Kincaid 2. Bowers 3. Pitts
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50%
1. Pitts 2. Bowers 3. Kincaid
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10%
1. Pitts 2. Kincaid 3. Bowers
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25%
 
Total votes: 20

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Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby jponte3 » Sun May 12, 2024 6:07 pm

In a superflex tight end premium with 2 ppr , how would you rank these 3 tight ends and how early would you be willing to draft them in this format?

Think there are arguments for all 3 but would love some other opinions.
Thank you for your feedback
12 team Superflex, 1/2 point PPR, 1 point TEP, Start 11 spots
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft

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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby TheTroll » Sun May 12, 2024 6:09 pm

Kincaid easy but you only left one poll option. Then it would be Pitts and Bowers last.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby NathanielWegman » Sun May 12, 2024 6:14 pm

Long term I’m going Bowers, Kincaid, and Pitts

For 2024 I’d flop it to Kincaid,Pitts,Bowers
Team 1: 12 Team PPR, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE; 23 man rosters (typical scoring, except 2 pts per completion)
QBs: Josh Allen, Tua Tagovailoa, Derek Carr
RBs: Jonathan Taylor, Alvin Kamara, Zack Moss, Tyrone Tracy, Dylan Laube, Rasheen Ali
WRs: Brandon Aiyuk, Jaylen Waddle, Michael Pittman, Terry McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Malachi Corley, Curtis Samuel
TEs: Trey McBride, Ja’Tavion Sanders, Tyler Conklin
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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby jponte3 » Sun May 12, 2024 6:53 pm

TheTroll wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 6:09 pm Kincaid easy but you only left one poll option. Then it would be Pitts and Bowers last.
Appreciate the feedback and the headsup!, didnt mean to leave that option out.
12 team Superflex, 1/2 point PPR, 1 point TEP, Start 11 spots
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft

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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby kellysheroes » Sun May 12, 2024 7:01 pm

Kincaid then Bowers for me. Pitts kinda of lost his shine
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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby TheTroll » Sun May 12, 2024 7:03 pm

kellysheroes wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 7:01 pm Kincaid then Bowers for me. Pitts kinda of lost his shine
I’d agree but 2024 is a make or break year for Pitts. New coaching staff and a QB. If he stalls this year then Bowers. Bowers has the hype but at this point need to see it… just like Pitts in that regard.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby Black Adam » Mon May 13, 2024 2:09 am

Didn't vote. I'm ranking them Bowers > Pitts > Kincaid.
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2016: 4th :x
2017: 8th 💩
2018: 3rd 🥉
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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby TheTroll » Mon May 13, 2024 2:33 am

Black Adam wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:09 am Didn't vote. I'm ranking them Bowers > Pitts > Kincaid.
Well look at you rocking the boat with anointing someone who hasn’t played a down yet number 1. Lol

I guess this thread question could go two ways:

1. Highest Ceiling Potential
2. Who’s going to produce more value

I personally need to see Bowers produce first before I would just put him over the other two upfront. I’m definitely open to changing my rankings mid season or so, but I really believe that Kincaid will be in the top 2 of scoring for all TEs in 2024.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby blemly » Mon May 13, 2024 4:24 am

TheTroll wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 6:09 pm Kincaid easy but you only left one poll option. Then it would be Pitts and Bowers last.
X2. I found that part pretty ironic.
Team 1 (Rebuild ): 12-tm SF 0.5PPR/1.0PP1D
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3


Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th


Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Jones
RB: JT, Kamara, Jacobs, Zeke, Singletary, Moss
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Schultz, Granson, Hill
Picks: 1.06, 1.07, 2.04, 2.07

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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby Tvols » Mon May 13, 2024 6:01 am

Funny seeing Pitts number 3 out of these guys since he was the new sliced bread( is that bowers path ?) but i think i am taking Kincaid out of this bunch.
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QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP

Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin

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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby Black Adam » Mon May 13, 2024 6:13 am

TheTroll wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:33 am
Black Adam wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:09 am Didn't vote. I'm ranking them Bowers > Pitts > Kincaid.
Well look at you rocking the boat with anointing someone who hasn’t played a down yet number 1. Lol

I guess this thread question could go two ways:

1. Highest Ceiling Potential
2. Who’s going to produce more value

I personally need to see Bowers produce first before I would just put him over the other two upfront. I’m definitely open to changing my rankings mid season or so, but I really believe that Kincaid will be in the top 2 of scoring for all TEs in 2024.
I mean rookie-year Kincaid basically did what Pitts did in his worst season, not counting the one where he missed almost half the games due to injury, so I wouldn't say Kincaid has actually "produced" either. A receiving TE that averages less than 10 yards a catch is gonna either need to up his YPC or eat a ton of volume to produce.

Let's also consider DK did that with Josh Allen throwing him the football while Pitts has had straight refuse his whole career; the best QB he's ever had was Matt Ryan and the tail-end of his career.

But yeah, I'll take the better athletes and much-more lauded prospects over Kincaid any day. :snooty:
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Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP


2015: 7th 💩
2016: 4th :x
2017: 8th 💩
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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon May 13, 2024 8:56 am

i legit have no idea how to rank em i like all 3 guys just fine and dont feel extremely safe weekly with any of them and hope for studly performances with each. pitts is the only one of the 3 we know can put up elite yardage numbers for a te so having him at 3 feels wrong but i also get the let downs from the years since the 1k. totally torn no strong preference for any one over the others here.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby Anteaters » Mon May 13, 2024 10:04 am

I'm usually not a rookie TE guy, but post-draft I decided I really like Bowers' landing. I think he's going to have a surprisingly great rookie season.

Kincaid's rookie season did not cement him as a T5TE to me. And Pitts is still Pitts, good but not spectacular. Not by so much I'd pay a premium to get him over either Pitts or Kincaid. But if I get to choose the one I want, it's Bowers. He's the only one who hasn't been not spectacular in the NFL yet.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
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TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby BucFanJKE » Mon May 13, 2024 10:11 am

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I voted Pitts, Kincaid, Bowers.

It's really Pitts/Kincaid tier down Bowers. I could see the argument for Kincaid > Pitts, but for me I believe the ceiling of Pitts is still higher and I hope that Kirk/Penix will give him a similar floor as Kincaid. I have to rank Bowers a tier lower due to the unknowns. Who is the long term QB, what is the split with Mayer, etc. The other two have clear cut TE1 roles for their teams with a healthy market share of targets.
Team 1-
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 2R, 2W, 1T, 3WRT)
QB- Richardson, Dak, Watson, Bennett, Zappe
RB- Achane, Mixon, Ekeler, Javonte Williams, Mostert, Dobbins, Gibson, Bigsby, Spears, Gainwell, Guerendo
WR- Chase, Lamb, London, Pittman, Odunze, Roman Wilson, QJ, Bateman, Shaheed, OBJ, Skyy
TE- Kincaid, Freiermuth, Chig, Fant, Musgrave, Woods, Bellinger

Team 2-
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Stroud
RB: CMC, Bijan, Gibbs, JT, Breece Hall, Kamara, Gibson
WR: Diggs, Hill, AJB, Odunze, Aiyuk, London, JSN, BTJ, Hollywood, M.Mims, Meyers, Washington
TE: Kelce, Kyle Pitts, Dulcich

Team 3- (Adopted Dumpster Orphan)
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Tua, Dak
RB: Gibbs, Hall, Achane, Jacobs, Warren, Bigsby, Dobbins, K. Mitchell, Dowdle
WR: Lamb, Wilson, Waddle, Olave, Nabers, London, Bateman, Wan'Dale, Javon Baker, Wicks, OBJ,
TE: Kittle, Kincaid, Woods, Stover

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Re: Bowers vs Kincaid vs pitts

Postby yinzername » Mon May 13, 2024 10:50 pm

I saw on twitter today where a ridiculous amount of TD scoring has been vacated with the departure of Diggs and Davis. With Coleman being a polarizing (at best) rookie, I like Kincaid to suck up most of those RZ/EZ targets (with Samuel 2nd behind him).

Kincaid easily this year, with Pitts behind him.

Ask again next year for fully formed opinion re: Bowers. I like him, but he’s never played an NFL snap and currently sketchy in LV
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Caleb Williams - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - J Wright - Estime
WR: AJB - Pittman - Odunze - Shaheed - J Burton - R Pearsall - Doubs - E Moore
TE: MAndrews - Bowers - Bellinger - Kraft
‘25: one 1st, two 2nds, three 3rds

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QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - J Brooks - K Miller - J Wright - A Mattison - J Hill - W Shipley
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - J Burton - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig


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