2024 Bad Trade Offers

[BabyChark23]

Not horrible, but from someone who I had already told I valued Kraft as a late 1st early 2nd.

Send: Kraft, 4.12, 5.12
Receive: Trask, 3.08, 4.06

Countered with Kraft for a 25 1st (which will be top 3)

Really? A late first?

[Shcritters]

Not horrible, but from someone who I had already told I valued Kraft as a late 1st early 2nd.

Send: Kraft, 4.12, 5.12
Receive: Trask, 3.08, 4.06

Countered with Kraft for a 25 1st (which will be top 3)

Really? A late first?

Should have mentioned it in the original post… TE super-Prem league. Sinnott will prob go late first there this year.

[BabyChark23]

Not horrible, but from someone who I had already told I valued Kraft as a late 1st early 2nd.

Send: Kraft, 4.12, 5.12
Receive: Trask, 3.08, 4.06

Countered with Kraft for a 25 1st (which will be top 3)

Really? A late first?

Should have mentioned it in the original post… TE super-Prem league. Sinnott will prob go late first there this year.

Ok, I see now

[tstafford]

Not horrible, but from someone who I had already told I valued Kraft as a late 1st early 2nd.

Send: Kraft, 4.12, 5.12
Receive: Trask, 3.08, 4.06

Countered with Kraft for a 25 1st (which will be top 3)

Setting aside the trade, I'm slightly surprised by your value on Kraft. Are you saying that for 1QB or SF? I have Kraft as ~TE20 for dynasty and outside of the top-24 for redraft. I can't see how that's worth a late first or early 2nd unless it's 1QB and a very heavy TEP. And even then I'm not sure. I could totally see the argument to re-roll on Kraft for Sinnott for example - and that's not a 1st round value.

[killer_of_giants]

14 teams 1QB non-ppr, i received an offer of:

give: 1.03
get: davante adams, chris godwin

not that bad, but i had a lot of high end WRs already, told him i would be more interested in RBs, so he sent this:

give: 1.03
get: jerome ford

...

[TheTroll]

14 teams 1QB non-ppr, i received an offer of:

give: 1.03
get: davante adams, chris godwin

not that bad, but i had a lot of high end WRs already, told him i would be more interested in RBs, so he sent this:

give: 1.03
get: jerome ford

...

LOL

[Shcritters]

Not horrible, but from someone who I had already told I valued Kraft as a late 1st early 2nd.

Send: Kraft, 4.12, 5.12
Receive: Trask, 3.08, 4.06

Countered with Kraft for a 25 1st (which will be top 3)

Setting aside the trade, I'm slightly surprised by your value on Kraft. Are you saying that for 1QB or SF? I have Kraft as ~TE20 for dynasty and outside of the top-24 for redraft. I can't see how that's worth a late first or early 2nd unless it's 1QB and a very heavy TEP. And even then I'm not sure. I could totally see the argument to re-roll on Kraft for Sinnott for example - and that's not a 1st round value.

SF, super TE Prem. 1.5PPR, .15pt/rec-yd. Sinnott will be a late 1st pick this year, and Sanders could be an early 2nd.

If you deep dive on the 2nd half of the year stats for Kraft he outplayed Musgrave (even when both healthy). Late 1st is a little bit of a stretch, but early 2nd definitely not. Will be interesting to see who shakes out in GB as the primary pass catchers.

[killer_of_giants]

14 teams 1QB non-ppr, i received an offer of:

give: 1.03
get: davante adams, chris godwin

not that bad, but i had a lot of high end WRs already, told him i would be more interested in RBs, so he sent this:

give: 1.03
get: jerome ford

...

LOL

of course my offer of charbonnet and 3.01 for his 1.06 was rejected. i wonder why...

[Shcritters]

14 teams 1QB non-ppr, i received an offer of:

give: 1.03
get: davante adams, chris godwin

not that bad, but i had a lot of high end WRs already, told him i would be more interested in RBs, so he sent this:

give: 1.03
get: jerome ford

...

LOL

of course my offer of charbonnet and 3.01 for his 1.06 was rejected. i wonder why...

That’s a great counter. He has no leg to stand on if he’ll reject your offer with sending that trash offer.

[killer_of_giants]

LOL

of course my offer of charbonnet and 3.01 for his 1.06 was rejected. i wonder why...

That’s a great counter. He has no leg to stand on if he’ll reject your offer with sending that trash offer.

well apparently ford has a much clearer path to playing time at the start of the season and "he's likely to run away with the job" while charbs will always be a n2.

[Anteaters]

Completed trade in one of my leagues.
12tm, 1qb, no TEP
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/te/flex

Team A receives: Diontae Johnson, 2024 overall 13th pick in draft

Team B receives: Davante Adams, Dalton Schultz

Team B finished the 2023 season with the third worst record and will not contend for at least the next two years.
As a result of trade Team A also receives 2nd overall pick in draft because of the league's keeper rules.

Team A has been in the championship game the last two years (lost both) and has a Top2 roster (CMC/Breece/Burrow/JJ/Olave/Andrews) in the league. Before the trade, Team A had no draft picks in the first 90picks. After the trade, Team A has the 2nd overall and 13th overall, in addition to getting Diontae Johnson.

Just a bad deal no matter how it's sliced up. Schultz was TE15 in this league last year and is carries almost no value in this scoring system. Team A was going to be forced to cut Schultz after our draft next week because he has Pitts/Andrews and needed the roster space.

[natjjohn]

Completed trade in one of my leagues.
12tm, 1qb, no TEP
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/te/flex

Team A receives: Diontae Johnson, 2024 overall 13th pick in draft

Team B receives: Davante Adams, Dalton Schultz

Team B finished the 2023 season with the third worst record and will not contend for at least the next two years.
As a result of trade Team A also receives 2nd overall pick in draft because of the league's keeper rules.

Team A has been in the championship game the last two years (lost both) and has a Top2 roster (CMC/Breece/Burrow/JJ/Olave/Andrews) in the league. Before the trade, Team A had no draft picks in the first 90picks. After the trade, Team A has the 2nd overall and 13th overall, in addition to getting Diontae Johnson.

Just a bad deal no matter how it's sliced up. Schultz was TE15 in this league last year and is carries almost no value in this scoring system. Team A was going to be forced to cut Schultz after our draft next week because he has Pitts/Andrews and needed the roster space.

Trade’s awful but I’m confused how this trade gives the second best team pick 2 in the rookie draft.

[Anteaters]

Completed trade in one of my leagues.
12tm, 1qb, no TEP
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/te/flex

Team A receives: Diontae Johnson, 2024 overall 13th pick in draft

Team B receives: Davante Adams, Dalton Schultz

Team B finished the 2023 season with the third worst record and will not contend for at least the next two years.
As a result of trade Team A also receives 2nd overall pick in draft because of the league's keeper rules.

Team A has been in the championship game the last two years (lost both) and has a Top2 roster (CMC/Breece/Burrow/JJ/Olave/Andrews) in the league. Before the trade, Team A had no draft picks in the first 90picks. After the trade, Team A has the 2nd overall and 13th overall, in addition to getting Diontae Johnson.

Just a bad deal no matter how it's sliced up. Schultz was TE15 in this league last year and is carries almost no value in this scoring system. Team A was going to be forced to cut Schultz after our draft next week because he has Pitts/Andrews and needed the roster space.

Trade’s awful but I’m confused how this trade gives the second best team pick 2 in the rookie draft.

To be concise about it, the keeper rules for players you drafted yourself mandate you give up a pick in the same round you originally drafted that player, for every year you keep that player. Team A originally drafted Adams in the first round, so Team A was not supposed to have a 1st round pick this year. This year, 11 of the 12 teams were retaining a player that team had previously drafted in a 1st round, so only one team was drafting in the first round. Once Team A traded away Adams, he regained his 1st round pick this year ... meaning he has the overall 2nd pick in the draft because only one other team has a 1st round pick.

No teams have a 2nd round pick. Five have a 3rd round pick. My 3rd round pick is the 7th overall. Because our draft has free agent veteran players as well, I'll probably get the fourth rookie. I'm really hoping for Odunze to fall.

[Shcritters]

Completed trade in one of my leagues.
12tm, 1qb, no TEP
qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/te/flex

Team A receives: Diontae Johnson, 2024 overall 13th pick in draft

Team B receives: Davante Adams, Dalton Schultz

Team B finished the 2023 season with the third worst record and will not contend for at least the next two years.
As a result of trade Team A also receives 2nd overall pick in draft because of the league's keeper rules.

Team A has been in the championship game the last two years (lost both) and has a Top2 roster (CMC/Breece/Burrow/JJ/Olave/Andrews) in the league. Before the trade, Team A had no draft picks in the first 90picks. After the trade, Team A has the 2nd overall and 13th overall, in addition to getting Diontae Johnson.

Just a bad deal no matter how it's sliced up. Schultz was TE15 in this league last year and is carries almost no value in this scoring system. Team A was going to be forced to cut Schultz after our draft next week because he has Pitts/Andrews and needed the roster space.

This is awful.