Minshew vs Aiden O'connel? Who gets and keeps the job?

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Minshew vs Aiden O'connel? Who gets and keeps the job?

Postby hockeyBjj » Fri May 10, 2024 6:47 am

Asking because I have Minshew as my QB4 in a contender Superflex (Daniel Jones and Geno are my QB2 and 3 so not great behind Ljax there for a superflex) and could sell him for 2.11 to the AoC owner.

Even if Minshew gets and holds the job all season, will he be a worthy enough injury fill in option for a superflex trying to win a ship? He'll have D Adams to throw to and two young TEs. The 2.11 is more flexible to try and get someone more reliable like a Stafford (with additions to the 2.11) down the line. I'd probably try to flip 2.11 to a 2025 midish 2nd so as to keep the flexibility unless someone I really liked fell to 2.11.

I have literally no draft picks until 2027 due to trying to chase a ship and failing in the championship year after year. My regular season record is 61-7 (Sleeper tracks this) over the past 5 years and 0 championships to show for it lol.
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: Minshew vs Aiden O'connel? Who gets and keeps the job?

Postby CGW » Fri May 10, 2024 6:50 am

Neither. Minshew will get most or all of the starts and the Raiders will be looking for their franchise QB next year. Again, assuming Minshew starts he will put up fine QB2 numbers but I don't think it'll be any better than your other QB2 Daniel Jones.

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Re: Minshew vs Aiden O'connel? Who gets and keeps the job?

Postby killer_of_giants » Fri May 10, 2024 7:01 am

i'll take 2.11 over minshew in most situations, including yours.

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Re: Minshew vs Aiden O'connel? Who gets and keeps the job?

Postby murphysxm » Fri May 10, 2024 7:05 am

The guys before me are both right
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: Minshew vs Aiden O'connel? Who gets and keeps the job?

Postby BabyChark23 » Fri May 10, 2024 7:08 am

Minshew is the guy there for this year. The money they paid him is more than you typically want to pay for a backup. They probably move in next year if they can find a good option to replace these guys. They’re kinda stuck in that awkward in between place where they aren’t good enough to compete and aren’t bad enough to get 1.01.

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Re: Minshew vs Aiden O'connel? Who gets and keeps the job?

Postby hockeyBjj » Fri May 10, 2024 7:48 am

CGW wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 6:50 am Neither. Minshew will get most or all of the starts and the Raiders will be looking for their franchise QB next year. Again, assuming Minshew starts he will put up fine QB2 numbers but I don't think it'll be any better than your other QB2 Daniel Jones.
I'm more worried about needing Minshew in injury situations, than starting Minshew over either Jones or Geno if all are healthy

I had to scramble and grabbed Josh Dobbs and Minshew last year due to injuries.
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: Minshew vs Aiden O'connel? Who gets and keeps the job?

Postby TheTroll » Fri May 10, 2024 3:16 pm

BabyChark23 wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 7:08 am Minshew is the guy there for this year. The money they paid him is more than you typically want to pay for a backup. They probably move in next year if they can find a good option to replace these guys. They’re kinda stuck in that awkward in between place where they aren’t good enough to compete and aren’t bad enough to get 1.01.
I agree with this. 2024 is the year of the Stache
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Minshew vs Aiden O'connel? Who gets and keeps the job?

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri May 10, 2024 3:18 pm

BabyChark23 wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 7:08 am Minshew is the guy there for this year. The money they paid him is more than you typically want to pay for a backup. They probably move in next year if they can find a good option to replace these guys. They’re kinda stuck in that awkward in between place where they aren’t good enough to compete and aren’t bad enough to get 1.01.
Either Dak or they will trade up in the draft. They aren't sticking with this QB room more than a year.
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Re: Minshew vs Aiden O'connel? Who gets and keeps the job?

Postby hockeyBjj » Fri May 10, 2024 6:42 pm

Traded Minshew (and Lazard and Perine) for 2.11 and took Corum

Not a sexy pick, but maybe returns desperation flex value for my team
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: Minshew vs Aiden O'connel? Who gets and keeps the job?

Postby gogobradyarm » Sat May 11, 2024 9:48 am

Minshew probably keeps it for most of the season unless he implodes. That said, i'm not sure it matters much. If you have to start either of these guys in fantasy, you're probably rebuilding.
12 Team - PPR - 30man (2 IR) - 6pt PPTD- 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 Flex - 1 TE
QB: Jalen Hurts, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Barkley, Pacheco, Jacobs, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Zach Evans
WR: AJB, Olave, Aiyuk, London, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Dotson, Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Mayer

2024: 1.02, 1.11, 3.01
2025: 2x 1st, 2nd
Champ: 2020, 2021
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