Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

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Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby Cowboys4Life » Fri May 10, 2024 10:01 am

As you can see in my signature I'm stacked in my SF at the QB position w/Patrick Mahomes and CJ Stroud. I got offered 20225, 26, 27 1st's as well as a 2027 2nd for Patrick Mahomes. I AM NOT going to do that offer, I don't have a 3rd QB and don't want to run anything but a QB in that spot and the waiver wire has NO ONE.

With all that being said, he did draft Caleb Williams at the 1.01 spot. What do you guys think would be an acceptable trade trying to swap Mahomes for Williams. I was gonna ask for Caleb and 2 1sts! Mahomes is established and the #1 overall ranked dynasty player, Caleb is most likely gonna light the NFL up but it's not proven yet!
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Lineup: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, WRT, WRTQ

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WR: Chris Godwin, Christian Kirk, Jayden Reed, D-Hop, Quentin Johnston, Michael Wilson, Wandale Robinson, P. Washington, Trey Palmer, Jalen Tolbert
TE: George Kittle, Dalton Schultz, Colby Parkinson

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Re: Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby Menace2010 » Fri May 10, 2024 11:22 am

Correct, initial offer auto reject. CW and 2x 1sts, I'd pull the trigger on.

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Re: Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri May 10, 2024 11:24 am

Menace2010 wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 11:22 am Correct, initial offer auto reject. CW and 2x 1sts, I'd pull the trigger on.
Agree. It's proven vs. risk, and CW should take a little time to develop. CW is low risk IMO though. But Mahomes is proven.
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Re: Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby Mtt33 » Fri May 10, 2024 12:20 pm

Ya in a shallow league (looks like start 8?) I’d want at least the 2 1sts on top. If it was deep I’d be happy willing to tier down to Caleb a little cheaper, but start 8 puts such an absurd premium on qb even 2 1sts on top is a scary one to accept.

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Re: Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby Cowboys4Life » Fri May 10, 2024 12:57 pm

Thanks everyone for their input...I countered and have yet to hear back. I don't see him going with my counter but I said screw it let's shoot my shot.

Give up: Mahomes, 2025 1st and Christian Kirk
Receive: Caleb Williams & Justin Jefferson

If he denies that then I do intend to send Mahomes for Caleb & 2 1sts.

He is a massive Chiefs fan and Mahomes, he's sent sooooo many trades for him but none work.
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Lineup: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, WRT, WRTQ

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WR: Chris Godwin, Christian Kirk, Jayden Reed, D-Hop, Quentin Johnston, Michael Wilson, Wandale Robinson, P. Washington, Trey Palmer, Jalen Tolbert
TE: George Kittle, Dalton Schultz, Colby Parkinson

Draft Capital:
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Re: Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby abloom » Fri May 10, 2024 1:02 pm

Caleb and 25 & 26 1st would be the minimum I'd be willing to do. If they were 2 251st that would probably be fine. But they aren't. I want an Wr upgrade as well to consider it with a 26 1st.
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Re: Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby Cowboys4Life » Fri May 10, 2024 1:09 pm

abloom wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 1:02 pm Caleb and 25 & 26 1st would be the minimum I'd be willing to do. If they were 2 251st that would probably be fine. But they aren't. I any a r
Wr upgrade as well.
Yeah if he doesn't go with my counter I'm gonna shoot for Caleb and 2 1sts which would be 25 & 26. Then I will take those 1st's on top of my others and package a top tier WR deal.
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Lineup: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, WRT, WRTQ

QB: Mahomes, CJ Stroud
RB: Gibbs, Rachaad White, Jonathon Brooks, Trey Benson, Tank Bigsby, Chris Rodriguez, Tyrone Tracy
WR: Chris Godwin, Christian Kirk, Jayden Reed, D-Hop, Quentin Johnston, Michael Wilson, Wandale Robinson, P. Washington, Trey Palmer, Jalen Tolbert
TE: George Kittle, Dalton Schultz, Colby Parkinson

Draft Capital:
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2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd

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Re: Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby TheTroll » Fri May 10, 2024 3:27 pm

Cowboys4Life wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 1:09 pm
abloom wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 1:02 pm Caleb and 25 & 26 1st would be the minimum I'd be willing to do. If they were 2 251st that would probably be fine. But they aren't. I any a r
Wr upgrade as well.
Yeah if he doesn't go with my counter I'm gonna shoot for Caleb and 2 1sts which would be 25 & 26. Then I will take those 1st's on top of my others and package a top tier WR deal.
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Re: Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby Finfansteve » Fri May 10, 2024 5:07 pm

Put both offers on the site and see what happens
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Re: Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri May 10, 2024 5:19 pm

Mahomes is an all timer and Stroud had a fantastic rookie year, looks legit.

I'd sit on those 2 and not worry for another decade.

ZERO chance I'd move Mahomes if Caleb is the main piece coming back. ZEEEEE-RO.

Mahomes over Caleb and 2 random firsts, one being 2 years out, all day for me.
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Re: Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby Cowboys4Life » Fri May 10, 2024 7:43 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 5:19 pm Mahomes is an all timer and Stroud had a fantastic rookie year, looks legit.

I'd sit on those 2 and not worry for another decade.

ZERO chance I'd move Mahomes if Caleb is the main piece coming back. ZEEEEE-RO.

Mahomes over Caleb and 2 random firsts, one being 2 years out, all day for me.
Yes we couldn't come to an agreement and apparently Caleb Williams is the next Brady lol so I'm gonna rock the #1 and #4 Dynasty ranked QB for the next decade like you said haha.
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Lineup: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, WRT, WRTQ

QB: Mahomes, CJ Stroud
RB: Gibbs, Rachaad White, Jonathon Brooks, Trey Benson, Tank Bigsby, Chris Rodriguez, Tyrone Tracy
WR: Chris Godwin, Christian Kirk, Jayden Reed, D-Hop, Quentin Johnston, Michael Wilson, Wandale Robinson, P. Washington, Trey Palmer, Jalen Tolbert
TE: George Kittle, Dalton Schultz, Colby Parkinson

Draft Capital:
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Re: Woke up to 3 1st's and a 2nd for Mahomes, I plan to counter, Thoughts?

Postby MacDaddy123 » Sat May 11, 2024 1:16 pm

Menace2010 wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 11:22 am Correct, initial offer auto reject. CW and 2x 1sts, I'd pull the trigger on.
Yup, that's where I'm at, Caleb + two 1sts


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