Nix or Fields +

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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun May 05, 2024 5:12 pm

IF this is a Superflex League, it's not even close. It's Nix.
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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby blemly » Sun May 05, 2024 6:43 pm

Black Adam wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 2:47 pm
frerichs5 wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 2:32 pm
Black Adam wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 1:51 pm

1 QB: Late 2024 2nd (12 tm). :shock:
SF/2: Late 1st (1.12) (12 tm). :shock:
I disagree with this. I wouldn’t give that for him in either format. I’d struggle to give more than a 3rd in SF and likely wouldn’t give anything in 1 QB.

Your previous post you said it was Nix and not close. 1.12 is right in line with Nix’s ADP.
Hey mane, I never said I'd give that for Fields, that's what his dyno value is according to the charts I use.

I don't trade for (or even roster) backup QBs so if he's not free, I'm good.

FWIW, the charts say Nix is just between 1.12 and 2.01 in SF and worth a 3rd in 1QB, so I think we're on the same page. :lol:
Oh wow I haven’t seen anything close to that for Fields. Who tf is paying a late 1st for him!?
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QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
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WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3


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WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby NathanielWegman » Sun May 05, 2024 6:50 pm

In a 12 team SF, I kinda just got a 1st for Fields

I gave Fields, Michael Carter, and 2.06 for Zamir White, Josh Downs and 1.12
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QBs: Josh Allen, Tua Tagovailoa, Derek Carr
RBs: Jonathan Taylor, Alvin Kamara, Zack Moss, Tyrone Tracy
WRs: Brandon Aiyuk, Jaylen Waddle, Michael Pittman, Terry McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Malachi Corley
TEs: Trey McBride, Ja’Tavion Sanders
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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby Black Adam » Sun May 05, 2024 7:11 pm

blemly wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 6:43 pm
Oh wow I haven’t seen anything close to that for Fields. Who tf is paying a late 1st for him!?
I have no clue, but there are clearly folks that still believe in him and it's our job to exploit their foolishness. :twisted:
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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby blemly » Sun May 05, 2024 7:16 pm

NathanielWegman wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 6:50 pm In a 12 team SF, I kinda just got a 1st for Fields

I gave Fields, Michael Carter, and 2.06 for Zamir White, Josh Downs and 1.12
This makes no sense for whoever you traded with. In fact I’m confident there isn’t one aspect of this trade where they got the better end of it. 1.12 > Fields, Downs > Carter, and White = 2.06
Team 1 (Rebuild ): 12-tm SF 0.5PPR/1.0PP1D
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3


Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th


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QB: Mahomes/Dak/Cousins/Jones
RB: JT, Kamara, Jacobs, Zeke, Singletary, Moss
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Schultz, Granson, Hill
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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby NathanielWegman » Sun May 05, 2024 7:44 pm

blemly wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 7:16 pm
NathanielWegman wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 6:50 pm In a 12 team SF, I kinda just got a 1st for Fields

I gave Fields, Michael Carter, and 2.06 for Zamir White, Josh Downs and 1.12
This makes no sense for whoever you traded with. In fact I’m confident there isn’t one aspect of this trade where they got the better end of it. 1.12 > Fields, Downs > Carter, and White = 2.06
Dude is just throwing darts. He had no QB so I guess he thought a good option was to trade for Fields and hope he can take over for Russ. I’m in somewhat of a rebuild so I loved getting 2 starters and a 1st for Fields and a 2nd basically
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RBs: Jonathan Taylor, Alvin Kamara, Zack Moss, Tyrone Tracy
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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun May 05, 2024 7:57 pm

blemly wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 1:16 pm Can I commander this to ask what Fields’ dynasty value is? Mid 2nd too much? I kind of prefer a late 2nd but curious what others think.
In this class, I think he's worth a 3rd. He's a backup QB that just got traded for a FUTURE 6th. The NFL doesn't value him. This class is deep in SF leagues.
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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby McCafsteez » Mon May 06, 2024 4:36 am

Sadly, Nix. Don’t trade the new rookie potential starting quarterback for a backup quarterback.
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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby Prison_Mike » Mon May 06, 2024 5:21 am

blemly wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 6:43 pm
Black Adam wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 2:47 pm
frerichs5 wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 2:32 pm

I disagree with this. I wouldn’t give that for him in either format. I’d struggle to give more than a 3rd in SF and likely wouldn’t give anything in 1 QB.

Your previous post you said it was Nix and not close. 1.12 is right in line with Nix’s ADP.
Hey mane, I never said I'd give that for Fields, that's what his dyno value is according to the charts I use.

I don't trade for (or even roster) backup QBs so if he's not free, I'm good.

FWIW, the charts say Nix is just between 1.12 and 2.01 in SF and worth a 3rd in 1QB, so I think we're on the same page. :lol:
Oh wow I haven’t seen anything close to that for Fields. Who tf is paying a late 1st for him!?
I saw him traded for 2.01 + '25 3rd (12tm superflex) by a rebuilding team in March (I believe it was the day he was traded to PIT), which I found odd. This was a team that tanked last year and was collecting picks. Maybe he didn't expect there to be so many RD1 QBs available this year, but still. He came out of the draft with JJM and Penix @ QB. Could have added Brooks or a RD1 WR with that 2.01

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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby Anteaters » Mon May 06, 2024 5:37 am

I have near zero faith Nix will be good enough to keep his starting job beyond 20 games. OTOH, Fields got his shot and blew it. I'm taking Nix here, but hating (and sending my condolences to) any roster that had to choose between the two in the first place. Hopefully this is deciding on the 27th player on a 30 man roster.
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QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby Prison_Mike » Mon May 06, 2024 5:52 am

Anteaters wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 5:37 am I have near zero faith Nix will be good enough to keep his starting job beyond 20 games. OTOH, Fields got his shot and blew it. I'm taking Nix here, but hating (and sending my condolences to) any roster that had to choose between the two in the first place. Hopefully this is deciding on the 27th player on a 30 man roster.
How loaded are your 30 man rosters? A top-12 drafted QB @ 27th best?

The 27th best on my 30 man rosters would be like Rashid Shaheed lol

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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby Anteaters » Mon May 06, 2024 6:25 am

Prison_Mike wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 5:52 am
Anteaters wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 5:37 am I have near zero faith Nix will be good enough to keep his starting job beyond 20 games. OTOH, Fields got his shot and blew it. I'm taking Nix here, but hating (and sending my condolences to) any roster that had to choose between the two in the first place. Hopefully this is deciding on the 27th player on a 30 man roster.
How loaded are your 30 man rosters? A top-12 drafted QB @ 27th best?

The 27th best on my 30 man rosters would be like Rashid Shaheed lol
I agree with you that the consensus value of Nix (or any rookie QB drafted in the 1st round) is higher than my personal valuation of Nix.

But, my personal opinion of Nix is I don't think he's close to being good enough to keep his job as a starter. If I'm right (and at the moment I think I'm right) then Nix is not worth drafting/trading for at the price he commands currently.
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WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
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14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
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Re: Nix or Fields +

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon May 06, 2024 7:10 am

Menace2010 wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 3:54 pm Nix was just drafted with the 12th overall pick. Fields was traded for a 6th. Fields may have another short-run in him, but he's also unlikely to lock down a starting gig.
but dude think about the POTENTIAL UPSIDE!!!!

im legit baffled how this has so many people saying fields side lol. yes he may have 1 more nice rushing season at some point WOO! the issue is he stinks as a passer and the whole NFL agrees.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
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Fields, Dak
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Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
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