Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
Don't love the landing spot but I don't hate it either. I think Young sucks and he is a bust.
But at least Legette will get an early opportunity to prove himself.
But at least Legette will get an early opportunity to prove himself.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
Let’s see what he can do when his best playmaker isn’t 32 year-old Adam Thielen before we completely cover his grave in dirt.
Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
I initially did not want to, but looked into him further and took him at 2.7 in my draft. Far away from the 1.1 (in jest ofc) and I have seen a couple early drafts with him in this range. That feels like a justified gamble on a 1st round WR. Watch his press conference as it's basically 2nd to Keon's all timer. Legette sounds like the cajun guy from Waterboy. Happy, humble, and almost shy... which is far away from what he seems on the field.
https://youtu.be/DX9NsG6X9rc?si=tRtMQHABnij-NOz6&t=3
https://youtu.be/DX9NsG6X9rc?si=tRtMQHABnij-NOz6&t=3
Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
This. I've bought Young in a few places this off season where his value has fallen drastically. That panther team last year was a train wreck. They brought in quite a bit of offensive talent in their WR1 Diontae, WR2 Legette, RB Brooks, and TE Sanders. That's an upgrade at just about every offensive skill position. It's pretty clear they are focused on giving him some weapons. I'm not writing him off yet.
I'm interested in Legette where he is going in drafts.
Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
100% hoping I am WRONG about Young. Have alot of Mingo and now alot of Legette.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
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Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
Good:
+ Got 1st round pedigree and a trade up
Bad:
- Came from the team that drafted Mingo six spots after a year ago
Half kidding with the last one.
+ Got 1st round pedigree and a trade up
Bad:
- Came from the team that drafted Mingo six spots after a year ago
Half kidding with the last one.
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Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
Bryce Young over Stroud, and traded a boatload to do it, including the pick that turned into Caleb.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:05 am Good:
+ Got 1st round pedigree and a trade up
Bad:
- Came from the team that drafted Mingo six spots after a year ago
They also turned down a haul for Burns, then took significantly less a short time later to move him.
The Panthers have terrible ownership.
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Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
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Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
PURE CAP !!!FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:07 amBryce Young over Stroud, and traded a boatload to do it, including the pick that turned into Caleb.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:05 am Good:
+ Got 1st round pedigree and a trade up
Bad:
- Came from the team that drafted Mingo six spots after a year ago
They also turned down a haul for Burns, then took significantly less a short time later to move him.
The Panthers have terrible ownership.
Speaking of Cap ... Let me take yours off
Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
And none of those people are in the building any longer.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:07 amBryce Young over Stroud, and traded a boatload to do it, including the pick that turned into Caleb.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:05 am Good:
+ Got 1st round pedigree and a trade up
Bad:
- Came from the team that drafted Mingo six spots after a year ago
They also turned down a haul for Burns, then took significantly less a short time later to move him.
The Panthers have terrible ownership.
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Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
Yeah, but the owner is pulling the strings. Young was his guy. They won't have a good front office as long as they have this owner. The Panthers are going to be bad for a long time.Lumps wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 4:25 pmAnd none of those people are in the building any longer.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:07 amBryce Young over Stroud, and traded a boatload to do it, including the pick that turned into Caleb.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:05 am Good:
+ Got 1st round pedigree and a trade up
Bad:
- Came from the team that drafted Mingo six spots after a year ago
They also turned down a haul for Burns, then took significantly less a short time later to move him.
The Panthers have terrible ownership.
Trading UP for a WR with this profile, and trading UP for a RB, blowing draft capital they sorely need, just shows they are still a badly managed team.
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Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Foodie. Well done steak goes in the trash.
Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
Water is wet. Fire burns. Tepper is a stupid owner. Dan Morgan is in over his head as GM.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:07 amBryce Young over Stroud, and traded a boatload to do it, including the pick that turned into Caleb.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:05 am Good:
+ Got 1st round pedigree and a trade up
Bad:
- Came from the team that drafted Mingo six spots after a year ago
They also turned down a haul for Burns, then took significantly less a short time later to move him.
The Panthers have terrible ownership.
Carolina fired their Director of Scouting and Asst Director of Scouting ... days after the 2024 draft! If they did not think those guys are good enough, why not fire them weeks/months before the draft? What did Carolina do? Employ a shadow scouting department, that no one knew about? Or did they use information gathered by two guys they think are incompetent?
I don't know how this story ends, but I think Tepper ends up being Scar - the short-sighted guy with terrible judgment who wanted to rule it all, got the job, and turned his kingdom into a wasteland of pestilence.
Tepper is the anti-Midas when it comes to football. Everything that he touches turns to turd.
Let's not forget the Panthers gave up 65 sacks last year. Let's also remember they did not draft one offensive lineman the entire draft. It doesn't take a crystal ball to envision how much time Young is going to have in the backfield. Answer: Less than almost every other QB. Answer again: Not enough. That pressure played a huge role in Young having a QBR of 33 last year. Carolina somewhat addressed this by signing OG during free agency, but did nothing to improve at the important Tackle positions.
Leggett was intriguing before the draft, and he has some talent. As of now, he's pretty much off my list. Diontae is a target hog. Thielen is so proven and steady, he can't help but command a certain target percentage from a young QB desperate for a good hands guy who gets open on a regular basis.
That leaves Leggett filling the third receiver role on a mediocre passing team. That's about 40-50 receptions his rookie season, if he's lucky. I'll draft him in the right spot, but I'm not taking him anywhere near his ADP.
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QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
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12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
The Ownership and management group are certainly suspect. The biggest issue by far is horrid O line play. Buying any Panther short term is a bad move until this group learns that winning is almost impossible with out very good trench players on both sides of the ball.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:07 amBryce Young over Stroud, and traded a boatload to do it, including the pick that turned into Caleb.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:05 am Good:
+ Got 1st round pedigree and a trade up
Bad:
- Came from the team that drafted Mingo six spots after a year ago
They also turned down a haul for Burns, then took significantly less a short time later to move him.
The Panthers have terrible ownership.
They continue to stupidly address skill positions with one of the worst lines in the league. This past draft was loaded with O-line players like we haven't seen in years and they drafted none.
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Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
They spent a good amount in FA to improve the line. I'm not saying they are suddenly the best OL in the league, but at least they think they got it handled prior to the draft.Ice wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:09 amThe Ownership and management group are certainly suspect. The biggest issue by far is horrid O line play. Buying any Panther short term is a bad move until this group learns that winning is almost impossible with out very good trench players on both sides of the ball.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:07 amBryce Young over Stroud, and traded a boatload to do it, including the pick that turned into Caleb.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:05 am Good:
+ Got 1st round pedigree and a trade up
Bad:
- Came from the team that drafted Mingo six spots after a year ago
They also turned down a haul for Burns, then took significantly less a short time later to move him.
The Panthers have terrible ownership.
They continue to stupidly address skill positions with one of the worst lines in the league. This past draft was loaded with O-line players like we haven't seen in years and they drafted none.
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Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
CAR’s O line was solid last season - I’d put them around the middle of the NFL pack - and they improved throughout the year where they were good towards the end. It wasn’t their fault that the skill position players were substandard.Lumps wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:59 amThey spent a good amount in FA to improve the line. I'm not saying they are suddenly the best OL in the league, but at least they think they got it handled prior to the draft.Ice wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:09 amThe Ownership and management group are certainly suspect. The biggest issue by far is horrid O line play. Buying any Panther short term is a bad move until this group learns that winning is almost impossible with out very good trench players on both sides of the ball.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:07 am
Bryce Young over Stroud, and traded a boatload to do it, including the pick that turned into Caleb.
They also turned down a haul for Burns, then took significantly less a short time later to move him.
The Panthers have terrible ownership.
They continue to stupidly address skill positions with one of the worst lines in the league. This past draft was loaded with O-line players like we haven't seen in years and they drafted none.
Re: Xavier Legette is your 1.1 now!
Not sure what you were watching last year but I disagree on the line play. (62 sacks last season)Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 7:10 amCAR’s O line was solid last season - I’d put them around the middle of the NFL pack - and they improved throughout the year where they were good towards the end. It wasn’t their fault that the skill position players were substandard.Lumps wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:59 amThey spent a good amount in FA to improve the line. I'm not saying they are suddenly the best OL in the league, but at least they think they got it handled prior to the draft.Ice wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:09 am
The Ownership and management group are certainly suspect. The biggest issue by far is horrid O line play. Buying any Panther short term is a bad move until this group learns that winning is almost impossible with out very good trench players on both sides of the ball.
They continue to stupidly address skill positions with one of the worst lines in the league. This past draft was loaded with O-line players like we haven't seen in years and they drafted none.
I do agree they have issues with the skill position but QB is really hard when the line is that bad. They may improve some this year but they are not winning many games until they can get much better line play.
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