2024 Bad Trade Offers

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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed May 01, 2024 9:40 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:31 am
topher wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:17 am 12tm 1QB

Give: 1.10
Get: 2.12, 3.08, 4.08

What really gets it for me is the same owner 1 month earlier offered me 2.08, 2.12 for the 1.10....so his offer got worse lol.
But you get THREE picks now. LOL.
And the perceived value of 1.10 has devalued. So they're doing you a favor by giving you more later picks.

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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby tstafford » Wed May 01, 2024 10:37 am

Probably doesn't qualify for this thread, but it was an instant reject:

Give: 1.03 (SF)
Get: D. Watson

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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby TheTroll » Wed May 01, 2024 3:23 pm

tstafford wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 10:37 am Probably doesn't qualify for this thread, but it was an instant reject:

Give: 1.03 (SF)
Get: D. Watson
Yeah light but not completely crazy
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby repkllrs » Wed May 01, 2024 3:59 pm

tstafford wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 10:37 am Probably doesn't qualify for this thread, but it was an instant reject:

Give: 1.03 (SF)
Get: D. Watson
Qualifies in my book.
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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Wed May 01, 2024 9:04 pm

repkllrs wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 3:59 pm
tstafford wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 10:37 am Probably doesn't qualify for this thread, but it was an instant reject:

Give: 1.03 (SF)
Get: D. Watson
Qualifies in my book.
Yeah thats bad

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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby smbkrypt24 » Thu May 02, 2024 4:35 am

topher wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:17 am 12tm 1QB

Give: 1.10
Get: 2.12, 3.08, 4.08

What really gets it for me is the same owner 1 month earlier offered me 2.08, 2.12 for the 1.10....so his offer got worse lol.

These are the ones that make you turn your head a little to be like what the…
Similarly, when you trade say 1.03 and 1.04 for 1.01….and an owner offers you 1.05 and 1.12 for 1.01. Why would I want worse picks than what I gave up.
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2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy, Fields
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, D. Johnson, JSN, Doubs, Meyers, Thomas, Toney
TE: Andrews, Likely, Dulcic

2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 1, 2, 2

2019 Startup
Team 2- 4th in 2023
QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, JT, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely

2024: 1.01, 1.06, 2.08, 2.09
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3

2021 Startup
Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Burrow, Watson, Cousins, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo

2024: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08
2025: 1, 2, 3

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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby WOATjohn » Fri May 03, 2024 10:09 am

I took over an safeleague orphan in a SF/TEP league. My team is top heavy with no depth.

I offered CMC and Cousins
For 1.04, 2.04, Mayer and McLaughlin

He rejected and countered with
I give CMC
I get 2.04, McLaughlin and Shaheed

Uhhh that escalated quickly. I rejected and asked if he thought my offer was offensive and the reason he sent me such a sad counter but he never replied.

The team is a possible contender too, so it would have helped him.
QB: Tua, Wilson
RB: Achane, Najee, Jacobs, Moss, Spears, Zamir
WR: Addison, Hollywood, Cooper, Higgins, Ridley, Shaheed
TE: Mayer, Henry
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
2.10, 3.01, 3.09, 4.05

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.07, 1.08, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Anteaters » Fri May 03, 2024 10:39 am

WOATjohn wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:09 am I took over an safeleague orphan in a SF/TEP league. My team is top heavy with no depth.

I offered CMC and Cousins
For 1.04, 2.04, Mayer and McLaughlin

He rejected and countered with
I give CMC
I get 2.04, McLaughlin and Shaheed

Uhhh that escalated quickly. I rejected and asked if he thought my offer was offensive and the reason he sent me such a sad counter but he never replied.

The team is a possible contender too, so it would have helped him.
QB: Tua, Wilson
RB: Achane, Najee, Jacobs, Moss, Spears, Zamir
WR: Addison, Hollywood, Cooper, Higgins, Ridley, Shaheed
TE: Mayer, Henry
I don't think your offer was offensive, but it was low-key sly. The trick in your offer is the guy is not a contender before the trade, and would only be a marginal contender after the trade. Meanwhile, he dumps one of his only two halfway viable TEs in a TEP league. Not to mention he throws away the opportunity to add a good young QB (Daniels) for the privilege of having old-man Cousins for a year until Pennix takes over.

It's not that your offer was terrible. I mean, it does include CMC. However your offer to that roster would have required the manager to be kind of clueless to accept.

I think CMC+Cousins is an offer that should made to a team that is already a contender, needs a QB, and is ready to go all-in on a realistic push. That other guy's roster is missing a couple of high-quality assets to be ready for this trade.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser

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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby WOATjohn » Fri May 03, 2024 10:49 am

Anteaters wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:39 am
WOATjohn wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:09 am I took over an safeleague orphan in a SF/TEP league. My team is top heavy with no depth.

I offered CMC and Cousins
For 1.04, 2.04, Mayer and McLaughlin

He rejected and countered with
I give CMC
I get 2.04, McLaughlin and Shaheed

Uhhh that escalated quickly. I rejected and asked if he thought my offer was offensive and the reason he sent me such a sad counter but he never replied.

The team is a possible contender too, so it would have helped him.
QB: Tua, Wilson
RB: Achane, Najee, Jacobs, Moss, Spears, Zamir
WR: Addison, Hollywood, Cooper, Higgins, Ridley, Shaheed
TE: Mayer, Henry
I don't think your offer was offensive, but it was low-key sly. The trick in your offer is the guy is not a contender before the trade, and would only be a marginal contender after the trade. Meanwhile, he dumps one of his only two halfway viable TEs in a TEP league. Not to mention he throws away the opportunity to add a good young QB (Daniels) for the privilege of having old-man Cousins for a year until Pennix takes over.

It's not that your offer was terrible. I mean, it does include CMC. However your offer to that roster would have required the manager to be kind of clueless to accept.

I think CMC+Cousins is an offer that should made to a team that is already a contender, needs a QB, and is ready to go all-in on a realistic push. That other guy's roster is missing a couple of high-quality assets to be ready for this trade.
I didn’t even care about Mayer or McLaughlin. If he would have countered without them I would have accepted. I just wanted the picks
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
2.10, 3.01, 3.09, 4.05

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.07, 1.08, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Fri May 03, 2024 1:25 pm

WOATjohn wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:09 am I took over an safeleague orphan in a SF/TEP league. My team is top heavy with no depth.

I offered CMC and Cousins
For 1.04, 2.04, Mayer and McLaughlin

He rejected and countered with
I give CMC
I get 2.04, McLaughlin and Shaheed

Uhhh that escalated quickly. I rejected and asked if he thought my offer was offensive and the reason he sent me such a sad counter but he never replied.

The team is a possible contender too, so it would have helped him.
QB: Tua, Wilson
RB: Achane, Najee, Jacobs, Moss, Spears, Zamir
WR: Addison, Hollywood, Cooper, Higgins, Ridley, Shaheed
TE: Mayer, Henry
You made a more than fair offer.

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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby mzkp54 » Fri May 03, 2024 2:30 pm

Give: CMC, Barkley, Hill
Get: 2.03, 2.04, 2.09, 3.04
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Anteaters » Fri May 03, 2024 2:41 pm

WOATjohn wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:49 am
Anteaters wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:39 am
WOATjohn wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 10:09 am I took over an safeleague orphan in a SF/TEP league. My team is top heavy with no depth.

I offered CMC and Cousins
For 1.04, 2.04, Mayer and McLaughlin

He rejected and countered with
I give CMC
I get 2.04, McLaughlin and Shaheed

Uhhh that escalated quickly. I rejected and asked if he thought my offer was offensive and the reason he sent me such a sad counter but he never replied.

The team is a possible contender too, so it would have helped him.
QB: Tua, Wilson
RB: Achane, Najee, Jacobs, Moss, Spears, Zamir
WR: Addison, Hollywood, Cooper, Higgins, Ridley, Shaheed
TE: Mayer, Henry
I don't think your offer was offensive, but it was low-key sly. The trick in your offer is the guy is not a contender before the trade, and would only be a marginal contender after the trade. Meanwhile, he dumps one of his only two halfway viable TEs in a TEP league. Not to mention he throws away the opportunity to add a good young QB (Daniels) for the privilege of having old-man Cousins for a year until Pennix takes over.

It's not that your offer was terrible. I mean, it does include CMC. However your offer to that roster would have required the manager to be kind of clueless to accept.

I think CMC+Cousins is an offer that should made to a team that is already a contender, needs a QB, and is ready to go all-in on a realistic push. That other guy's roster is missing a couple of high-quality assets to be ready for this trade.
I didn’t even care about Mayer or McLaughlin. If he would have countered without them I would have accepted. I just wanted the picks
I get that you want the picks. I'm just saying that other guy should not make the trade based on his roster.

You got the first part of the trade right: You found assets you want to acquire.
You got the second part right: You found players/assets on your team to make an acceptable opening offer.
You missed the third part: You did not identify a team that would materially benefit from making the trade.

Your proposed trade gives you what you want. Your proposed trade does not make the other guy a contender, and it deprives him of needed youth (the two picks and Mayer).

I think the type of offer you made would get a better reception from a true contender who needs an extra boost to go all in.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat May 04, 2024 1:05 am

14 team SF/TEP 6 points per TD pass. Caleb was off the board at 1.01.


Give 1.05 and a 2025 first (projected early/mid)

Get 1.02
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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby tstafford » Sat May 04, 2024 2:23 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 1:05 am 14 team SF/TEP 6 points per TD pass. Caleb was off the board at 1.01.


Give 1.05 and a 2025 first (projected early/mid)

Get 1.02
I bet deals like this happen all the time this off-season. Guessing there are a lot of folks willing to pay up for MHJR.

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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Sat May 04, 2024 3:09 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 1:05 am 14 team SF/TEP 6 points per TD pass. Caleb was off the board at 1.01.


Give 1.05 and a 2025 first (projected early/mid)

Get 1.02
Not a bad offer but I get not wanting to pay it


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