Targeting Nabers OTC trade

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Targeting Nabers OTC trade

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed May 01, 2024 7:31 am

Rookie draft just started for Team 2 - [12tm PPR SF 0.5-TEP]

Guy with 1.01/1.02/1.04 selected CW, MHJ, and then put 1.04 on the block
He tanked last year. Has a solid core (Kyler, CW, MHJ, GW, Flowers) but has a lot of holes to fill, and his next pick isn't until RD3

I'm interested in getting one more stud WR. I figure Nico is worth roughly 1.08/1.09 and Javonte is late 1st/early 2nd value

A) Given the context, is this a reasonable offer to get Nabers?

Give: Nico + Javonte
Get: 1.04

Short of that, maybe Nico + '25 1st? (which I know from previous talks that he's interested in)

B) Are my resources better spent elsewhere considering my QB3 is Russell Wilson?
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, Lloyd, R.Davis, Vidal, Tracy
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Bowers, Woods

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir, Irving
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Kirk, Hollywood, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12

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Re: Targeting Nabers OTC trade

Postby tstafford » Wed May 01, 2024 7:42 am

I don't think it's a bad offer but I also don't think it has a high likelihood of success. Issue IMO is that Javonte is a high end RB3 for '24 which just isn't all that compelling (especially on May 1st). Nico/2025 1st seems more enticing.

As to question B, I think focusing on WR is fine. You have two of the top-3 QBs, I'm not too worried about the QB3. If I was doing anything at QB it would be trading for someone like Carr or A.Rod during the season.

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Re: Targeting Nabers OTC trade

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed May 01, 2024 8:13 am

nico and a first is a much more reasonable offer i think
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Targeting Nabers OTC trade

Postby murphysxm » Wed May 01, 2024 8:20 am

Prison_Mike wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:31 am I figure Nico is worth roughly 1.08/1.09 and Javonte is late 1st/early 2nd value
I find both of these valuations on the high side and also think including the 1st is much more realistic
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: Targeting Nabers OTC trade

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed May 01, 2024 8:44 am

murphysxm wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:20 am
Prison_Mike wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:31 am I figure Nico is worth roughly 1.08/1.09 and Javonte is late 1st/early 2nd value
I find both of these valuations on the high side and also think including the 1st is much more realistic
Yeah I expected others to think the valuation of JW was high. Probably more of a mid 2nd in the market right now.

Nico I think is right on the line. If the draft falls as we expect it to 1.01-1.08, I'd gladly send 1.09 for Nico in most leagues (FWIW, that's where KTC has his value as well)

To your point, those are probably the sell prices, not the buy prices

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Re: Targeting Nabers OTC trade

Postby murphysxm » Wed May 01, 2024 8:55 am

Prison_Mike wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:44 am (FWIW, that's where KTC has his value as well)
I will reserve my opinion on what I think of KTC.....

To me Nico is going to take a bit more of a hit with Diggs and lesser targets than I believe is being reflected. I admit I may have moved the needle more than others however.
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: Targeting Nabers OTC trade

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed May 01, 2024 9:07 am

murphysxm wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:55 am
Prison_Mike wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:44 am (FWIW, that's where KTC has his value as well)
I will reserve my opinion on what I think of KTC.....

To me Nico is going to take a bit more of a hit with Diggs and lesser targets than I believe is being reflected. I admit I may have moved the needle more than others however.
Haha that's why I said FWIW. I know it's not universally welcomed/accepted.
I just use it as ballpark value to make sure I'm not way off

I agree he's probably going to take a hit but I'm still a buyer (excluding opportunities to tier up from him)

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Re: Targeting Nabers OTC trade

Postby TheTroll » Wed May 01, 2024 3:37 pm

Prison_Mike wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:07 am
murphysxm wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:55 am
Prison_Mike wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:44 am (FWIW, that's where KTC has his value as well)
I will reserve my opinion on what I think of KTC.....

To me Nico is going to take a bit more of a hit with Diggs and lesser targets than I believe is being reflected. I admit I may have moved the needle more than others however.
Haha that's why I said FWIW. I know it's not universally welcomed/accepted.
I just use it as ballpark value to make sure I'm not way off

I agree he's probably going to take a hit but I'm still a buyer (excluding opportunities to tier up from him)
Agreed
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Targeting Nabers OTC trade

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed May 01, 2024 5:12 pm

Thanks all, but I got sniped, which I fully anticipated because the guy picking at 1.03 is rebuilding and has very few assets so he traded back and Nabers went 1.03

I never sent the trade for that reason but I’m almost 100% confident he would have taken Nico + ‘25 1st

He traded GW (+3.04) for 1.10 + ‘25 1st today
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, Lloyd, R.Davis, Vidal, Tracy
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Bowers, Woods

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir, Irving
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Kirk, Hollywood, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12


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