Kelce… is he worth anything at this point?

[Payton34]

Looking at his game by game last year, he was meh, with a few huge games. Would love to pair him with my Mahomes, but don’t want to break the bank either, as he obviously is not a long term asset.

2.5 + Musgrave? or is that an insulting offer?

[Tvols]

To a contender I say a late first, I don’t think it’s insult but depending on the teams that owns him he could be more valuable to that team

[wickerkat1212]

He's for sure still worth something. He's still playing at a pretty elite level. Was TE2 in my leagues last year. To a contender, yes, I think late 1st.

[Stone2987]

2.5 + musgrave is fair enough

[Black Adam]

2.05 + Musgrave is prolly getting rejected, especially since Musgrave isn't even the TE1 on his own team.

I'd say two (early) 2nds or a late 1st is more likely.

[Anteaters]

Looking at his game by game last year, he was meh, with a few huge games. Would love to pair him with my Mahomes, but don’t want to break the bank either, as he obviously is not a long term asset.

2.5 + Musgrave? or is that an insulting offer?

12 teams, 6pts all TDs, 1/2 pt PPR. 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D, 2 FLEX RB/WR/TE

I don't think that offer has much chance for success, unless the other guy is a desperate rebuillder.

In that format, (no TEP, 12 teams, shallow starting requirements) I think that's a borderline insulting offer. Musgrave is practically worthless in such leagues, just a bench guy you'd hope gets a chance to start in the NFL and maybe MAYBE then he could be almost start-worthy in your league. The 2.05 in a 1QB league is a wild dart throw. Yes, Kelce might be starting his final year as a top tier fantasy TE option, but he's worth more than that.

[Prison_Mike]

Assuming it's the team in your signature, I think you'd have more success with 1.11

2.05 + Musgrave feels like a quick rejection

[SoftwoodGrampian]

1.11

[Gazzerk]

Looking at his game by game last year, he was meh, with a few huge games. Would love to pair him with my Mahomes, but don’t want to break the bank either, as he obviously is not a long term asset.

2.5 + Musgrave? or is that an insulting offer?

12 teams, 6pts all TDs, 1/2 pt PPR. 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D, 2 FLEX RB/WR/TE

I don't think that offer has much chance for success, unless the other guy is a desperate rebuillder.

In that format, (no TEP, 12 teams, shallow starting requirements) I think that's a borderline insulting offer. Musgrave is practically worthless in such leagues, just a bench guy you'd hope gets a chance to start in the NFL and maybe MAYBE then he could be almost start-worthy in your league. The 2.05 in a 1QB league is a wild dart throw. Yes, Kelce might be starting his final year as a top tier fantasy TE option, but he's worth more than that.

I agree and disagree here. I don’t think it’s enough but I don’t think it is THAT bad. Musgrave definitely still holds value. He was a very good prospect and his draft capital was a round higher than Kraft (who I assume you are referring to as the TE1 for GB) and they had almost identical fantasy point seasons and Musgrave played 6 less games…

Instant TE hits like LaPorta are an outlier and not the norm. You could have technically said all of these things about McBride after his rookie season and now I have owners offering all sorts of packages for him. A slow or even almost non existent rookie season is very normal for any TE prospect. Kelce is still a great player but I really don’t see him being the same this year. He slowed down drastically in the 2nd half of last season. I think the team will take measures to preserve him throughout the season as well in an attempt to keep him healthy for playoffs. That’s not great for fantasy points.

Long story short, the Kelce owner probably wants more and has an argument to demand it but this deal could look a lot different halfway through next season. I am personally selling Kelce before the wheels fall off if possible as I think the cliff is coming faster than we think.

Side note: I may have talked myself into buying Musgrave if he is so cheap.

[Viking386]

I have Kelce on a few teams that I feel my title run chances have ended and I cant sell him for any first, these are in all TE Prem leagues as well. But to your problem at hand I dont believe a trade is even needed. You have Kincaid. Just stay put.

[Anteaters]

Looking at his game by game last year, he was meh, with a few huge games. Would love to pair him with my Mahomes, but don’t want to break the bank either, as he obviously is not a long term asset.

2.5 + Musgrave? or is that an insulting offer?

12 teams, 6pts all TDs, 1/2 pt PPR. 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D, 2 FLEX RB/WR/TE

I don't think that offer has much chance for success, unless the other guy is a desperate rebuillder.

In that format, (no TEP, 12 teams, shallow starting requirements) I think that's a borderline insulting offer. Musgrave is practically worthless in such leagues, just a bench guy you'd hope gets a chance to start in the NFL and maybe MAYBE then he could be almost start-worthy in your league. The 2.05 in a 1QB league is a wild dart throw. Yes, Kelce might be starting his final year as a top tier fantasy TE option, but he's worth more than that.

I agree and disagree here. I don’t think it’s enough but I don’t think it is THAT bad. Musgrave definitely still holds value. He was a very good prospect and his draft capital was a round higher than Kraft (who I assume you are referring to as the TE1 for GB) and they had almost identical fantasy point seasons and Musgrave played 6 less games…

Instant TE hits like LaPorta are an outlier and not the norm. You could have technically said all of these things about McBride after his rookie season and now I have owners offering all sorts of packages for him. A slow or even almost non existent rookie season is very normal for any TE prospect. Kelce is still a great player but I really don’t see him being the same this year. He slowed down drastically in the 2nd half of last season. I think the team will take measures to preserve him throughout the season as well in an attempt to keep him healthy for playoffs. That’s not great for fantasy points.

Long story short, the Kelce owner probably wants more and has an argument to demand it but this deal could look a lot different halfway through next season. I am personally selling Kelce before the wheels fall off if possible as I think the cliff is coming faster than we think.

Side note: I may have talked myself into buying Musgrave if he is so cheap.

In general I don't disagree that Musgrave holds some value, and thus this would be a decent offer.

However, as I said in my post, in this specific league, I don't think Musgrave carries much value. Check out the specifics the OP mentions in the first post in the thread. This is a very shallow 1QB league. That significantly diminishes the value of both the 2.05 and Musgrave.

[abloom]

Contenders (late) first is good. I paid my 25 1st a month or so ago for him on my last team in signature. Should be late in a 14 teamer

[TheTroll]

He is a high end TE1. We all know it’s going to come to an end but I think for win now in 2024, now is the time to buy for a back end 1st.

[Payton34]

Thanks for all replies. Consensus is about what I figured. 1.11 makes sense, but not sure if I’ll end up trying it or not. Kelce seems like one of those players that gets everyone stuck. Seller won’t get what he wants and buyer will be asked to pay more than he’s willing in most cases…