Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

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Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby Gazzerk » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:55 pm

1QB 14 Team Start 7 No TEP. have been exploring several options this off season and I will be faced with some decisions once the draft is complete. My main objective has been to move up into the top 3 for one of the WR. I sit at 1.04 and also have 1.07. I have offered 1.04 + 1.07 for 1.02 with no success. 1.02 owner point blank said he would need a deal he can’t say now to. He also desperately needs a tight end and I am pretty well off there. There also a good chance I’d be looking to Bowers at 4 if I stay put but I have a much bigger need for a high end WR. I have offered McBride and 1.07 for the 1.02 and also offered to add 3.06 or possibly 2.09. He still wouldn’t budge which is fair. Not necessarily a godfather offer. He has continuously offered me the 1.06 for McBride and I know he really wants him. The closer we get to the draft, the more consistently he is texting me for McBride. Maybe he will budge on moving 1.02 in a deal involving McBride.

With that said, I have a verbal guideline of a deal available to me for 1.03. He wants 1.04 + 1.07 +3.06 for his 1.03 + 1.13 + 2.03. I don’t hate the value here and it feels pretty fair to move into a spot I want. I don’t love BTJ all that much and he feels like the prototypical physical freak bust. I also don’t love the idea of drafting a TE in that spot because TEs are a crapshoot even if he is a monster prospect. Oddly enough, I am a bit hesitant because of the drop back from 1.07 to 1.13. My league is RB crazy with it being start 2RB in a 14 team league and I was considering a guy like Brooks at that 1.07 if he gets the right landing spot.

Is this package a good move to get up into the 1.03 and I’m just overthinking the rest of the details? Feels like the top end talent of this draft is what matters the most. Thoughts?
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes
RB - Bijan, Najee, Dobbins, Chase Brown, Abanikanda
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Hutchinson
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Schoonmaker
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs

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2024 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.04, 3.06
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd

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Re: Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby Black Adam » Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:45 pm

1.02 & 1.04 owner here.

Yeah, no. Instead of shipping all your picks away to draft "for one of the WR" I'd see if you could trade 1.04 away straight-up for a WR. You don't have much depth at WR or RB, and if Mahomes misses time you're screwed.

To answer your question though, the difference for me is the 1.14 or a guy like Cooper. That's if the trade is "fair", not what it'd take for me to actually move off my spot.

Picks are expensive this time of year and this class looks like it's going to be special. I'm not really sure you set yourself up to be able to "afford" to make this move. :snooty:
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Re: Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby repkllrs » Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:57 am

Gazzerk wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:55 pm 1.04 + 1.07 +3.06 for his 1.03 + 1.13 + 2.03
I would try to get this deal done asap.
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Re: Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby TheTroll » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:43 am

I. Think getting in the top 3 in 1QB is priority. You pay by more of a dart throw at the back end of round 1 and 2

I would personally do this deal
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby Gazzerk » Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:46 am

Thanks for the responses. This is why I ask. I can’t seem to get a consistent sentiment anywhere. It seems split between this being a good move and not being worth the price. The downfall here is that this deal might vanish if Odunze lands somewhere great. I know this because he told me. With that said, my sides value boosts if someone like Bowers, BTJ and the RBs get great landing spots. I’m not afraid of Odunze going somewhere like the Giants since he’d be the only guy there. Is this a nice that only makes sense to sort out after the NFL draft?
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes
RB - Bijan, Najee, Dobbins, Chase Brown, Abanikanda
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Hutchinson
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Schoonmaker
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs

Picks:
2024 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.04, 3.06
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd

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Re: Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby tstafford » Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:31 pm

TheTroll wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:43 am I. Think getting in the top 3 in 1QB is priority. You pay by more of a dart throw at the back end of round 1 and 2

I would personally do this deal
Agreed. And I think the gap to 1.04 in non-TEP is quite big. It's lessened if the starting requirement is only 7 or 8 players. But if it's 10, TE is arguably worth punting and just going with a cheap vet (i.e. Ferguson or Shultz).

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Re: Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby murphysxm » Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:24 pm

tstafford wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:31 pm
TheTroll wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:43 am I. Think getting in the top 3 in 1QB is priority. You pay by more of a dart throw at the back end of round 1 and 2

I would personally do this deal
Agreed. And I think the gap to 1.04 in non-TEP is quite big. It's lessened if the starting requirement is only 7 or 8 players. But if it's 10, TE is arguably worth punting and just going with a cheap vet (i.e. Ferguson or Shultz).
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Re: Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby wickerkat1212 » Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:31 pm

murphysxm wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:24 pm
tstafford wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:31 pm
TheTroll wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:43 am I. Think getting in the top 3 in 1QB is priority. You pay by more of a dart throw at the back end of round 1 and 2

I would personally do this deal
Agreed. And I think the gap to 1.04 in non-TEP is quite big. It's lessened if the starting requirement is only 7 or 8 players. But if it's 10, TE is arguably worth punting and just going with a cheap vet (i.e. Ferguson or Shultz).
These guys are correct, listen to them.
+1 I'd make the trade.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

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QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby Tvols » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:42 pm

repkllrs wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:57 am
Gazzerk wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:55 pm 1.04 + 1.07 +3.06 for his 1.03 + 1.13 + 2.03
I would try to get this deal done asap.
very fair in a 1qb IMO.
16 teamer
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP

Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin

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Re: Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby Gazzerk » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:11 pm

tstafford wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:31 pm
TheTroll wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:43 am I. Think getting in the top 3 in 1QB is priority. You pay by more of a dart throw at the back end of round 1 and 2

I would personally do this deal
Agreed. And I think the gap to 1.04 in non-TEP is quite big. It's lessened if the starting requirement is only 7 or 8 players. But if it's 10, TE is arguably worth punting and just going with a cheap vet (i.e. Ferguson or Shultz).
It is start 7

QB
2RB
2WR
TE
Flx
Def
K

That is why I do value TE a bit more. Our league winners always have a really strong TE that season. With that said, I’m good at TE and a rookie TE’s value is not the same as a proven NFL tight end. I’m definitely leaning toward doing the deal but I wanted to get the input to make sure I wasn’t missing anything.
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes
RB - Bijan, Najee, Dobbins, Chase Brown, Abanikanda
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Hutchinson
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Schoonmaker
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs

Picks:
2024 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.04, 3.06
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd

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Re: Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby NathanielWegman » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:43 pm

I’m making this move quick fast and in a hurry if I’m you.

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Re: Value Gap Between 1.02/1.03 and 1.04 in 1QB

Postby stpilots98 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:07 pm

I'm with everyone else. Make the deal
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex

QB - Fields, Howell, Levis, Rodgers
RB - Montgomery, Dillon, Achane, Ford, Foreman Spears, De. Johnson, Ch. Brown
WR - Di Johnson, Olave, DJM, JSN, Addison, Dell, E. Moore, R. Moore, Pierce, Osborne, Atwell, Reynolds
TE - Kincaid, Hudson

1.01, 1.09, 1.10

1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 4 Flex, SF

QB - Hurts, Fields, Howell, Bridgewater, Wentz, Hoyer
RB - Barkley, Mixon, Dillon, Spears, Foreman, CEH, Murray, Strong
WR - Jefferson, Higgins, Allen, R. Moore, Palmer, MVS, Patrick, Reynolds, Woods, Osborne, Campbell, Raymond
TE - Musgrave, I. Smith, Henry, Washington

2nd

1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex, SF

QB - Carr, Garoppolo, Levis, Trubisky, Darnold, Trask, Wentz, Walker
RB - Robinson, Achane, R. Jones, CEH, Kelley, Mitchell, Mason
WR - Adams, Higgins, Wilson, DJM, Brown, Cooks, Boyd, MVS, R. Moore, Boutte
TE - Kinkaid, Knox, Conklin

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