Moving Tyreek or Aging WR Assets

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Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:54 pm

In my 12-man, 1 ppr league where we start qb-rb-rb-rb-wr-wr-wr-wr-te-flex-k-d
a guy gave me a horrible offer for Tyreek. Got me thinking. Can I get younger?

I have a pretty solid starting group of wrs—Jefferson, Tyreek, Diggs, Davante, Allen.
His roster is okay, but he has some nice pieces.

Tyreek for ASRB straight up?

What if I offered two aging assets—

say Diggs + Allen
for
ASRB

or

Allen + Boyd
or
Diggs + Woods
for
DJM

Thoughts? My full team is in my signature (Dynasty #4).

Here is his team:

Allen, Josh BUF QB - 14 97 461.70
Howell, Sam SEA QB - 609 88 322.20
Love, Jordan GBP QB - 88 97 377.95

Akers, Cam MIN RB (Q) (IR) - 159 63 46.70
Charbonnet, Zach SEA RB - 142 87 106.60
Foreman, D'Onta CLE RB - 241 79 91.80
Fournette, Leonard FA RB - - 45 4.00
Harris, Najee PIT RB - 54 98 197.50
Kamara, Alvin NOS RB (Q) - 26 95 234.10
Pollard, Tony TEN RB - 48 96 224.70
Sanders, Miles CAR RB - 183 87 92.10
Warren, Jaylen PIT RB - 83 95 200.90

Austin III, Calvin PIT WR - 165 49 52.90
Bell, David CLE WR - 341 31 48.70
Bourne, Kendrick NEP WR (Q) (IR) - 132 59 102.00
Cooks, Brandin DAL WR - 109 90 173.20
Dortch, Greg ARI WR - 199 40 64.50
Gallup, Michael FA WR - 221 69 87.80
Jones, Zay JAC WR - 107 80 78.10
London, Drake ATL WR - 104 98 174.60
Moore, D.J. CHI WR - 18 97 288.50
Peoples-Jones, Donovan DET WR - 393 50 28.50
St. Brown, Amon-Ra DET WR - 5 99 332.90
Thompkins, Deven TBB WR - 421 15 37.20

Henry, Hunter NEP TE - 169 81 119.90
Kraft, Tucker GBP TE - 259 64 78.50
Pitts, Kyle ATL TE - 152 97 137.70
Washington, Darnell PIT TE - 495 41 13.10
Gay, Matt IND PK - 304 29 166.50
Dolphins, Miami MIA Def - 253 25 133.00

Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.02
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.08
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.10

Year 2025 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2025 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2025 Round 2 Draft Pick
Year 2025 Round 2 Draft Pick
Year 2025 Round 4 Draft Pick
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Moving Tyreek or Aging WR Assets

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:06 pm

Robert Woods?

I don't see why anyone would take those deals. And if his offer was truly horrible for Tyreek, you're probably so far apart that the counter is worthless.

But yes, if you can get either of the ARSB/DJM deals done, they're no-brainers

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Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:09 pm

Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:06 pm Robert Woods?

I don't see why anyone would take those deals. And if his offer was truly horrible for Tyreek, you're probably so far apart that the counter is worthless.

But yes, if you can get either of the ARSB/DJM deals done, they're no-brainers
Yes, Robert Woods.

You never know. Never hurts to offer, right?
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Moving Tyreek or Aging WR Assets

Postby kellysheroes » Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:35 pm

as a Hill owner I would gladly move him for Brown but I highly doubt that would get done; its wrong time of yr to attempt those trades

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Postby MacDaddy123 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:20 pm

I would make any of those trades if you can find a willing partner. :thumbup:
I know I couldn't make those trades in my leagues.

I did just trade Tyreek Hill away though.
I sent Tyreek + a late 25 2nd for what looks to be a top 5 2025 1st + 2024 2.04 in a 14 team SF TEP league.
Minor rebuild.

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Postby TheTroll » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:46 pm

Not bad if you can get it done now but Hill will be a bigger sell in season
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Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Moving Tyreek or Aging WR Assets

Postby Menace2010 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:41 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:09 pm
Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:06 pm Robert Woods?

I don't see why anyone would take those deals. And if his offer was truly horrible for Tyreek, you're probably so far apart that the counter is worthless.

But yes, if you can get either of the ARSB/DJM deals done, they're no-brainers
Yes, Robert Woods.

You never know. Never hurts to offer, right?
These trades have an almost comically low chance of being accepted. I expect your league mates to be posting these in the bad trade offers soon...

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Postby Stone2987 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:54 pm

It eventually does hurt if you offer ridiculous trades. Teams won’t consider trading with you. There is one team in each of my leagues I don’t ever initiate offers with because they always send the most lopsided offers/counters.

That being said I moved Davante and Ferguson for Devonta in my team 1 league. I felt it gave me a chance to extend my window and get value for an aging asset. Tyreek is more valuable than Davante but the offers you proposed are very unlikely to even warrant a counter from anyone who knows what they’re doing.
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10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Z Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champ
2022 Champ
2023 Champ
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10

Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Foreman, Hill, Mattison, Rodriguez
Wr - Wilson, AJB, London, JSN Downs, Polk, R Wilson, Mims, Shaheed, Palmer, Slayton, N Brown, Tolbert, Douglas, Metchie
Te - Pitts, Goedert Bowers, Fant, Schoonmaker,
Dl - Gary, Greenard Latu, Mafe, Karlaftis, Bonitto, Tyree, Nwosu
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Byard, Curl
Picks: 3.09, 3.10, 3.12, 4.06, 5.06

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Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:01 pm

I don't think they are bad offers. Two older studs for one younger stud. But yeah, we'll see.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Postby repkllrs » Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:06 pm

If both Diggs and Allen were both still with the teams that made them studs, you might of had a chance.
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Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:07 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:09 pm
Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:06 pm Robert Woods?

I don't see why anyone would take those deals. And if his offer was truly horrible for Tyreek, you're probably so far apart that the counter is worthless.

But yes, if you can get either of the ARSB/DJM deals done, they're no-brainers
Yes, Robert Woods.

You never know. Never hurts to offer, right?
Woods is a dead asset. I think throwing a dead asset into an offer could dissuade someone from considering it, even if it’s an otherwise decent offer.

As for the others, I suppose it doesn’t hurt to offer, as long as it’s a well established league (or maybe close friends) and you wouldn’t be damaging trade relationships.

Sometimes you have redraft-minded people that might consider that type of deal, but it’d be a tough sell considering each of the young guys you’re targeting are coming off their best season

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Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:29 pm

Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:07 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:09 pm
Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:06 pm Robert Woods?

I don't see why anyone would take those deals. And if his offer was truly horrible for Tyreek, you're probably so far apart that the counter is worthless.

But yes, if you can get either of the ARSB/DJM deals done, they're no-brainers
Yes, Robert Woods.

You never know. Never hurts to offer, right?
Woods is a dead asset. I think throwing a dead asset into an offer could dissuade someone from considering it, even if it’s an otherwise decent offer.

As for the others, I suppose it doesn’t hurt to offer, as long as it’s a well established league (or maybe close friends) and you wouldn’t be damaging trade relationships.

Sometimes you have redraft-minded people that might consider that type of deal, but it’d be a tough sell considering each of the young guys you’re targeting are coming off their best season
Sure. I added Boyd instead of Woods. I saw it as he's a fairly competitive team, and if he was trading for Tyreek (who isn't young) maybe he'd take Diggs + Allen instead. IDK. You never know.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Postby Prison_Mike » Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:31 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:29 pm
Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:07 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:09 pm

Yes, Robert Woods.

You never know. Never hurts to offer, right?
Woods is a dead asset. I think throwing a dead asset into an offer could dissuade someone from considering it, even if it’s an otherwise decent offer.

As for the others, I suppose it doesn’t hurt to offer, as long as it’s a well established league (or maybe close friends) and you wouldn’t be damaging trade relationships.

Sometimes you have redraft-minded people that might consider that type of deal, but it’d be a tough sell considering each of the young guys you’re targeting are coming off their best season
Sure. I added Boyd instead of Woods. I saw it as he's a fairly competitive team, and if he was trading for Tyreek (who isn't young) maybe he'd take Diggs + Allen instead. IDK. You never know.
I'd maybe pivot and see if he'd take Tyreek + (one of) Allen/Diggs for ARSB + a pick

Not as much firepower on your roster, but would accomplish the goal of getting younger which at some point will become a priority considering 4 of your top 5 WRs are dangerously close to (or have already surpassed) the age cliff

Again though, might be a moot point if the initial Tyreek offer was way off

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Re: Moving Tyreek or Aging WR Assets

Postby Tvols » Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:38 am

IF you want a stud have give up one, Diggs is no longer a stud, nor is allen ,simply due to age while changing teams. This will take Hill plus for a top 5 wrs that is young. Those offers outside of hill maybe not draw a response. Selling old assets in Dynasty out of season and no injuries is difficult. Your best bet maybe ride what you got if you are all in , if not blow it up.
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QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP

Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin

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Re: Moving Tyreek or Aging WR Assets

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:28 am

those deals are wildly off man and i think you need to adjust your valuations a bit on those older assets. (if you wanna make some retooling moves to get younger that is, anyone can value anyone how they please)

hill should get you someone like wilson, olave, london, etc. and you may even have to add slightly if the trade partner isnt super win now.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp


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