I’m trying to gauge the value of Kendre Miller who I’m my opinion is talented and has a chance to be a solid dynasty asset this season.
Would you trade Kendre & Russ Wilson, for a 2025 1st that is projected late?
I ask the question, as the 2025 1st will likely be used to pick a RB so on paper looks great, but could be an equivalent of Kendre.
Kendre & Russ or 2025 1st (late)
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Re: Kendre & Russ or 2025 1st (late)
The first, if you can get that for them.
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2016: 4th
2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st
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Re: Kendre & Russ or 2025 1st (late)
How many teams? Superflex?
I took Kendre at the very end of the 1st round in a 16 team last season, and don't regret it yet. So it'd depend for me... I'd lean no. If Wilson produces early in PIT, he'd be worth a late 1st or early 2nd on his own.
I took Kendre at the very end of the 1st round in a 16 team last season, and don't regret it yet. So it'd depend for me... I'd lean no. If Wilson produces early in PIT, he'd be worth a late 1st or early 2nd on his own.
Re: Kendre & Russ or 2025 1st (late)
Yeah I think we need to know the format.Menace2010 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:57 pm How many teams? Superflex?
I took Kendre at the very end of the 1st round in a 16 team last season, and don't regret it yet. So it'd depend for me... I'd lean no. If Wilson produces early in PIT, he'd be worth a late 1st or early 2nd on his own.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Re: Kendre & Russ or 2025 1st (late)
12 Team SFTheTroll wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:39 pmYeah I think we need to know the format.Menace2010 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:57 pm How many teams? Superflex?
I took Kendre at the very end of the 1st round in a 16 team last season, and don't regret it yet. So it'd depend for me... I'd lean no. If Wilson produces early in PIT, he'd be worth a late 1st or early 2nd on his own.
Re: Kendre & Russ or 2025 1st (late)
Ok so you are right, assuming the 2025 is late you at best will get an equivalent for Miller. This means Russ is a bonus to the other owner. I personally think that Russ will lose his job to Fields and Kendre will still be stuck behind Kamara for at least another year.Nflnz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:41 am12 Team SFTheTroll wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:39 pmYeah I think we need to know the format.Menace2010 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:57 pm How many teams? Superflex?
I took Kendre at the very end of the 1st round in a 16 team last season, and don't regret it yet. So it'd depend for me... I'd lean no. If Wilson produces early in PIT, he'd be worth a late 1st or early 2nd on his own.
I don’t see much risk in making the deal assuming you are ok at QB, but I think you could get the other owner to throw in something else for getting a starting QB in SF. Maybe a pick swap or a future 2nd? Nothing that should be a deal breaker but a little more added
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Kendre & Russ or 2025 1st (late)
This seems right to me. Kendres draft capital says he should be their back in 2025, maybe even this year if they cut Kamara for cap reasons. If they do cut Kamara instead of reworking his contract this deal would be pulled immediately.TheTroll wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:57 amOk so you are right, assuming the 2025 is late you at best will get an equivalent for Miller. This means Russ is a bonus to the other owner. I personally think that Russ will lose his job to Fields and Kendre will still be stuck behind Kamara for at least another year.
I don’t see much risk in making the deal assuming you are ok at QB, but I think you could get the other owner to throw in something else for getting a starting QB in SF. Maybe a pick swap or a future 2nd? Nothing that should be a deal breaker but a little more added
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
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QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
Re: Kendre & Russ or 2025 1st (late)
I agree w/ Troll - see if you can get something added. Wilson is still valuable in SF.
But do the deal somehow. I'd rather be holding the first regardless of whether I'm a contender or not. If I'm not a contender, I'd hold it until next season. If I am a contender, it can be used in-season to add an impact player for a playoff run if needed. Kendre might help you make that push, but the pick for sure will. Somebody will decide to rebuild and sell you a player that will outproduce Kendre in '24.
But do the deal somehow. I'd rather be holding the first regardless of whether I'm a contender or not. If I'm not a contender, I'd hold it until next season. If I am a contender, it can be used in-season to add an impact player for a playoff run if needed. Kendre might help you make that push, but the pick for sure will. Somebody will decide to rebuild and sell you a player that will outproduce Kendre in '24.
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Re: Kendre & Russ or 2025 1st (late)
I took Miller either late 1st or early 2nd whenever I could thinking the samething... he'll replace Karama as best he can. But I do get a little jumpy when rookie RBs aren't given many touches doing their 1st season, it means the coaches aren't seeing anything special. Miller finally tore it up week 18, it was basically his showcase. if your planning on him taking the reigns in 2025 then you have to survive 2 rookie draft where the Saints do not spend much on RBs which is really risky.
If you can package him for a 1st ever in 2025 I would do it.
If you can package him for a 1st ever in 2025 I would do it.
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Re: Kendre & Russ or 2025 1st (late)
^This. I think Wilson at best is worth two 2nds. I don't think you're likely to get a 1st for him. And though Miller intrigues me, I'm find using him as the additional chip to lock in the only premium value asset here (the 2025 1st). Obviously, if you can get a throw-in (a 3rd?), great! But I'm not passing on this deal if this is the final offer.tstafford wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:29 am I agree w/ Troll - see if you can get something added. Wilson is still valuable in SF.
But do the deal somehow. I'd rather be holding the first regardless of whether I'm a contender or not. If I'm not a contender, I'd hold it until next season. If I am a contender, it can be used in-season to add an impact player for a playoff run if needed. Kendre might help you make that push, but the pick for sure will. Somebody will decide to rebuild and sell you a player that will outproduce Kendre in '24.
Also, and we read/hear/say this all the time: where a person was drafted last year is now irrelevant.
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Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
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TE: --
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IR: --
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RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
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QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
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WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
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2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
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