Just checking the temperature on Puka being a Stafford made WR. I looked up Stafford/retirement and seems he wants to play three more years at least so I'll take this Puka performance over MAYBE Nabers being this. I have SOME concern that Puka won't perform nearly as well without Stafford, but that may be down the road a bit, AND I can trade Puka then if I feel I need to, and he'll still be a top asset.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:57 amHow do you see that as a positive move? Do you expect Nabers to be a top 5 FF WR his rookie year? At the very best it’s a lateral move IMO, and that’s if the rookie unknown turns in a Nacua-like rookie year - unless like I said before that you see last year as Nacua’s apex.wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:58 am I was thinking of offering Puka straight up for 1.02 (Nabers, as I have the 1.01 and will be taking Harrison). Thoughts? I think Stafford, the king-maker, will be around three more years so I guess it's a matter of will Puka be elite for three more years and then fall off or stay a stud? Is Nabers as good a player? IDK.
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D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
Re: Puka Nacua
Could also be sometime this year. I prefer Nabers over Pukawickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:01 pmJust checking the temperature on Puka being a Stafford made WR. I looked up Stafford/retirement and seems he wants to play three more years at least so I'll take this Puka performance over MAYBE Nabers being this. I have SOME concern that Puka won't perform nearly as well without Stafford, but that may be down the road a bit, AND I can trade Puka then if I feel I need to, and he'll still be a top asset.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:57 amHow do you see that as a positive move? Do you expect Nabers to be a top 5 FF WR his rookie year? At the very best it’s a lateral move IMO, and that’s if the rookie unknown turns in a Nacua-like rookie year - unless like I said before that you see last year as Nacua’s apex.wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:58 am I was thinking of offering Puka straight up for 1.02 (Nabers, as I have the 1.01 and will be taking Harrison). Thoughts? I think Stafford, the king-maker, will be around three more years so I guess it's a matter of will Puka be elite for three more years and then fall off or stay a stud? Is Nabers as good a player? IDK.
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Starters: QB(1) FLEX (RB/WR/TE)(2) RB(2) WR(3) TE(1)
QB: AR, DJones
RB: Gibby, Charb, KMiller, Akers
WR: Chase, Lamb, G Wilson, Tank Dell, Burks, Mimsy, Tutu, W Robinson, Tucker, Wicks, RBell
TE: DNjoku, Hunter Henry
Draft Picks: 2024: 1.2, 1.5, 1.11. 2025: 1st Round (2) 2nd Round (1), 2026: 1st Round (1) 2nd Round (2)
Starters: QB(1) FLEX (RB/WR/TE)(2) RB(2) WR(3) TE(1)
QB: AR, DJones
RB: Gibby, Charb, KMiller, Akers
WR: Chase, Lamb, G Wilson, Tank Dell, Burks, Mimsy, Tutu, W Robinson, Tucker, Wicks, RBell
TE: DNjoku, Hunter Henry
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I want to see where Nabers lands. A lot of people have him as high as Harrison, some even ABOVE. So, for me to be able to double-dip with the two best WR in the draft would be exciting.Jrblaha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:09 pmCould also be sometime this year. I prefer Nabers over Pukawickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:01 pmJust checking the temperature on Puka being a Stafford made WR. I looked up Stafford/retirement and seems he wants to play three more years at least so I'll take this Puka performance over MAYBE Nabers being this. I have SOME concern that Puka won't perform nearly as well without Stafford, but that may be down the road a bit, AND I can trade Puka then if I feel I need to, and he'll still be a top asset.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:57 am
How do you see that as a positive move? Do you expect Nabers to be a top 5 FF WR his rookie year? At the very best it’s a lateral move IMO, and that’s if the rookie unknown turns in a Nacua-like rookie year - unless like I said before that you see last year as Nacua’s apex.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
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LOL
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
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that is funny lol.
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QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
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QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
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Re: Puka Nacua
I love going back to page 1 of this thread and reading the comments & "insight". Crazy how reality shattered all perceptions . I got him in 4 of my 8 dynasty leagues last year & also had him in 2 of my 3 redrafters in 2023. I was just hoping for peak Rams Robert Woods production, I had no idea he would do what he did. No complaints.
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In both of my leagues the leaguewinner had Puka, obviously not a coincidence.
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So crazy to watch where he went. I draft anywhere from the day after the NFL draft to the week before the NFL season. I only got one share but he was a flier late in the 4th round.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
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Mine too. He absolutely supercharged any contender he landed on last year.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:09 am In both of my leagues the leaguewinner had Puka, obviously not a coincidence.
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Yup I won 1 dynasty lineup league, 1 dynasty best ball league, and 1 redrafter last year. All 3 teams had Puka.mild wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:13 pmMine too. He absolutely supercharged any contender he landed on last year.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:09 am In both of my leagues the leaguewinner had Puka, obviously not a coincidence.
Another Puka share got me to 2nd place in another dynasty bestball. Another share got me to the playoffs. And in my other redraft league, early in the season I traded Puka/Flowers for Kyren/Cooper. That trade worked well for my team but I lost a close playoff game even though Kyren was solid.
Also at the midpoint of last year's season, I offered the worst team in the league Puka and 3 1st round picks (turned out to be 1.3, 1.8, 1.12) for Jamar Chase and his first (which I knew would be the 1.1). He declined luckily. Had Chase been in my lineup in week 17, I would've lost in the championship game by 2 points
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Interesting that even though Puka had a historic season, he really wasn't setting the world on fire in terms of overall separation.
I think this just goes back to show how important the absurd volume and McVay's sytem were to really maximize specifically what he's good at. He's not CeeDee Lamb or Garrett Wilson, who you could've really put wherever and gotten the same outcome.
Not to say he's overrated or anything, but it's just something to keep perspective of what he is as a player. I think the same thing applies to Cooper Kupp, where they both really needed this scheme to become what they are.
I think this just goes back to show how important the absurd volume and McVay's sytem were to really maximize specifically what he's good at. He's not CeeDee Lamb or Garrett Wilson, who you could've really put wherever and gotten the same outcome.
Not to say he's overrated or anything, but it's just something to keep perspective of what he is as a player. I think the same thing applies to Cooper Kupp, where they both really needed this scheme to become what they are.
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I remember dinging Kupp after his breakout because of his lack of separation and higher zone win rates. Blamed the scheme, Stafford, etc.
I'm not going to do the same mistake with Puka, but would be keeping tabs on Stafford's health if I owned Puka
I'm not going to do the same mistake with Puka, but would be keeping tabs on Stafford's health if I owned Puka
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Hey thanks for posting these for all the guys you haveCameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 10:40 am Interesting that even though Puka had a historic season, he really wasn't setting the world on fire in terms of overall separation.
I think this just goes back to show how important the absurd volume and McVay's sytem were to really maximize specifically what he's good at. He's not CeeDee Lamb or Garrett Wilson, who you could've really put wherever and gotten the same outcome.
Not to say he's overrated or anything, but it's just something to keep perspective of what he is as a player. I think the same thing applies to Cooper Kupp, where they both really needed this scheme to become what they are.
Team 1 (Rebuild ): 12-tm SF 0.5PPR/1.0PP1D
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3
Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th
Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Watson, Jones
RB: JT, AK, Jacobs, Brooks, Benson, Zeke, Singletary
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Bowers, Schultz, Granson, Hill
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3
Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th
Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Watson, Jones
RB: JT, AK, Jacobs, Brooks, Benson, Zeke, Singletary
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Bowers, Schultz, Granson, Hill
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