I like this trade and see it as window dressing of Diggs for Rice. Seems like both teams can win this deal, with the Diggs recipient getting a win-now piece and Rice an asset for the future (depending on the legal issue).yinzername wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:58 am team 2 in sig:
gave: Diggs/3.02/Juwan
got: Rice/2.11/Chig
2024 Off-Season Trades
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12 Team PPR League, 25 Man Rosters, 2 Taxi Squad
Start QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FLEX, FLEX
QB- Murray, Lawrence, Mayfield
RB- Montgomery, Javonte Williams, Najee Harris, Jamaal Williams, Carter, Joshua Kelly, Trayveon Williams, Eli Mitchell
WR- J. Jefferson, Tyreek, D. Smith, Tank Dell, Curtis Samuel, Hollywood Brown, Renfrow, Rashee Rice
TE- Pitts, Ferguson, Higbee
Taxi-Kraft
Picks
24=1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
25= 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Start QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FLEX, FLEX
QB- Murray, Lawrence, Mayfield
RB- Montgomery, Javonte Williams, Najee Harris, Jamaal Williams, Carter, Joshua Kelly, Trayveon Williams, Eli Mitchell
WR- J. Jefferson, Tyreek, D. Smith, Tank Dell, Curtis Samuel, Hollywood Brown, Renfrow, Rashee Rice
TE- Pitts, Ferguson, Higbee
Taxi-Kraft
Picks
24=1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
25= 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Re: 2024 Off-Season Trades
Because of the bigger risk on your side, I'd hope for a better pick upgrade. But I'm sure Rice will be fine after sitting out a few games, as long as they don't stick him in prison for too long.yinzername wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:58 am team 2 in sig:
gave: Diggs/3.02/Juwan
got: Rice/2.11/Chig
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Both teams 16 tm 1/3 ppr idp
QB, RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 2 Flex
Phoenix Park Suns
QB - Hurts, Darnold, Minshew, Zappe, O'Connell
RB - Ekeler, Conner, Edwards, Strong, McLaughlin, Brooks, Prince
WR - Adams, Tyreek Hill, Deebo Samuel, Zay Jones, M. Thomas, Downs
TE - Goedert, Bellinger
PK - Sanders
DL - Garrett, Paye, Madubuike, Judon
LB - Franklin, Mosley, Edmunds, J. Davis, Bernard, Jack, Mapu, Vander Esch
DB - Metellus, Branch
2024 Picks: 1.14, 2.05 , 2.14, 3.05, 3.14, 6.14
Serenity Valley Browncoats
QB - RWilson, O'Connell, Lance, Darnold, Hooker, Stidham
RB - Stevenson, RWhite, Ford, Herbert, Hunt, CEH, McIntosh, Brooks
WR - Adams, Collins, Rice, GDavis, NBrown, Dortch, Tillman
TE - Higbee, Allen, Graham
PK - Fairbairn
DL - Madubuike, Paye, Ebukam, Will Anderson
LB - Kendricks, Pratt, DWhite, Holcombe, Baker, Alexander, TAndersen, Jack
DB - Blackmon, Brisker, Stingley
- 2024 Picks: 1.13, 3.13
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QB, RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 2 Flex
Phoenix Park Suns
QB - Hurts, Darnold, Minshew, Zappe, O'Connell
RB - Ekeler, Conner, Edwards, Strong, McLaughlin, Brooks, Prince
WR - Adams, Tyreek Hill, Deebo Samuel, Zay Jones, M. Thomas, Downs
TE - Goedert, Bellinger
PK - Sanders
DL - Garrett, Paye, Madubuike, Judon
LB - Franklin, Mosley, Edmunds, J. Davis, Bernard, Jack, Mapu, Vander Esch
DB - Metellus, Branch
2024 Picks: 1.14, 2.05 , 2.14, 3.05, 3.14, 6.14
Serenity Valley Browncoats
QB - RWilson, O'Connell, Lance, Darnold, Hooker, Stidham
RB - Stevenson, RWhite, Ford, Herbert, Hunt, CEH, McIntosh, Brooks
WR - Adams, Collins, Rice, GDavis, NBrown, Dortch, Tillman
TE - Higbee, Allen, Graham
PK - Fairbairn
DL - Madubuike, Paye, Ebukam, Will Anderson
LB - Kendricks, Pratt, DWhite, Holcombe, Baker, Alexander, TAndersen, Jack
DB - Blackmon, Brisker, Stingley
- 2024 Picks: 1.13, 3.13
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Re: 2024 Off-Season Trades
tried hard for the 2.07 but the other guy was pretty staunch and savvymeineymoe wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:21 amBecause of the bigger risk on your side, I'd hope for a better pick upgrade. But I'm sure Rice will be fine after sitting out a few games, as long as they don't stick him in prison for too long.yinzername wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:58 am team 2 in sig:
gave: Diggs/3.02/Juwan
got: Rice/2.11/Chig
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SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Caleb Williams - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - J Wright - Estime
WR: AJB - Pittman - Odunze - Shaheed - J Burton - R Pearsall - Doubs - E Moore
TE: MAndrews - Bowers - Bellinger - Kraft
‘25: one 1st, two 2nds, three 3rds
2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - J Brooks - K Miller - J Wright - A Mattison - J Hill - W Shipley
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - J Burton - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Caleb Williams - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - J Wright - Estime
WR: AJB - Pittman - Odunze - Shaheed - J Burton - R Pearsall - Doubs - E Moore
TE: MAndrews - Bowers - Bellinger - Kraft
‘25: one 1st, two 2nds, three 3rds
2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - J Brooks - K Miller - J Wright - A Mattison - J Hill - W Shipley
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - J Burton - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
Re: 2024 Off-Season Trades
Just a down team at the moment. Some of their current players:Shcritters wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:02 pmDouble zoinks
Did they have a bunch of injured players that held them back, or a perennial low-performer?
QB - Rodgers
RB - R White, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Dowdle
WR - JSN, C Watson, Dotson, Mooney, Mingo, Douglas, Michael Wilson, Burks
TE - Andrews, Waller
They do have 1.01 and 1.04 now this year. Hard to imagine those 2025 picks they gave up aren’t early, but you never know I guess.
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If this owner lands two franchise QBs, it'll have been worth it... otherwise, there's always 2026.frerichs5 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:49 amJust a down team at the moment. Some of their current players:Shcritters wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:02 pmDouble zoinks
Did they have a bunch of injured players that held them back, or a perennial low-performer?
QB - Rodgers
RB - R White, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Dowdle
WR - JSN, C Watson, Dotson, Mooney, Mingo, Douglas, Michael Wilson, Burks
TE - Andrews, Waller
They do have 1.01 and 1.04 now this year. Hard to imagine those 2025 picks they gave up aren’t early, but you never know I guess.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season Trades
Upgrade from AJones to Jacobs, but would have rather you tried to swing something for a TE using that 1.10.meineymoe wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:21 am 12 team ppr idp 1 qb league.
Give: Aaron Jones, 1.10
Get: Josh Jacobs, 3.01
Roster after trade:
https://www42.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0010
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Gopher Two
PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ
SafeLeague #1 (12 team, SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Caleb, Purdy, Levis, Penix
RB: Pacheco, Estime, Vaughn
WR: Nabers, Coleman, Downs, EMoore, Jeudy, Burton, MMims, MWilson
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Sinnott, Mayer
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths
SafeLeague #2
QB: Caleb, Richardson, Purdy, JJMcCarthy
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Nabers, Worthy, McConkey, Brian Thomas Jr, Pearsall, Mims, Burton, Mingo, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Bowers, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds
PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ
SafeLeague #1 (12 team, SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Caleb, Purdy, Levis, Penix
RB: Pacheco, Estime, Vaughn
WR: Nabers, Coleman, Downs, EMoore, Jeudy, Burton, MMims, MWilson
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Sinnott, Mayer
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths
SafeLeague #2
QB: Caleb, Richardson, Purdy, JJMcCarthy
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Nabers, Worthy, McConkey, Brian Thomas Jr, Pearsall, Mims, Burton, Mingo, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Bowers, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds
Re: 2024 Off-Season Trades
Valid. Will try to get a decent/healthier 2nd te.Shcritters wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:29 amUpgrade from AJones to Jacobs, but would have rather you tried to swing something for a TE using that 1.10.meineymoe wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:21 am 12 team ppr idp 1 qb league.
Give: Aaron Jones, 1.10
Get: Josh Jacobs, 3.01
Roster after trade:
https://www42.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0010
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But I am a Musgrave truther, too.
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Yes, QB's have more value in 14 team than in 12 team SF, and QB is not totally off my board at 1.03.trc wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:19 amAgreed.Anteaters wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:56 amI wouldn't have done it, but I don't hate it. This is more of a personal preference, go get your guy decision for me.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:16 pm I know this will be unpopular, but I'm alright with it.
14 team SF TEP PPR start 10:
Give: Love, G. Wilson, T. Dell, C. Jones
Get: Purdy, 1.03 (Nabers), N. Collins, W. Robinson
Out of interest, as I only play 12 teamers, isn't it normally a waste to spend 1.03 on Nabers in a 14 teamer SF?
As I see the starting requirements aren't that deep, so a QB should be highly valuable here.
The way I look at it, the QB's are all riskier plays, and Caleb is no doubt the 1.01.
When I say I am taking Nabers at 1.03, I am assuming that Caleb and MHJ are off the board.
I feel that MHJ and Nabers are the 2 safest picks in this draft class.
I have Nabers similar to Ja'Marr Chase in the 2021 draft class.
Would taking Chase at 1.03 over Zach Wilson or Trey Lance have been a mistake? Or even over Trevor Lawrence at 1.01?
Now, if the NYG pick Nabers, and my QB2, Drake Maye goes to Minnesota, and JJ stays in Minnesota?
That would be a situation that could tempt me to go QB at 1.03.
I can live with my QB room: Burrow, Purdy, Geno.
WR is the strength of my team: J. Chase, T. Hill, P. Nacua, N. Collins, are all starters, and Nabers will be too if I get him.
I can start up to 5 WR's. Other WR's on roster are: J. Dotson, W. Robinson, T. Burks, M. Wilson, J. Tolbert, P. Washington.
From what I have seen in my SF leagues, 12 and 14 teamers, is that the teams that spend too much capital on the QB position tend to miss the playoffs, as the rest of their roster is too weak.
Teams that get great value at the QB position tend to win championships.
QB rooms of 2023 champions:
-Goff/Stafford/Ridder
-J. Allen/Howell/Ridder/ Heinicke
- Hurts/Stafford/Z. Wilson
- Lamar/B. Young/ Fields
-Hurts/Carr/Geno
I saw 2 teams with Josh Allen and Mahomes, and neither team came close to making the playoffs.
Just can't waste too much capital on the QB position, and dream that someone will pay you a haul for a QB.
It's not gonna happen.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season Trades
Anecdotally, did a startup this summer and a team ended up with Mahommes and Allen after the first round of the draft... but it took his startup 2nd and 3rd to make it happen. When the trade went down in the middle of the first round everyone said 'there goes the league...'. That team ended up 7th and not even making the playoffs (even after trading away their 2024 1st to go 'all-in'.
There are multiple ways you can win. You need at least one strong QB in SF, but don't necessarily need two.
There are multiple ways you can win. You need at least one strong QB in SF, but don't necessarily need two.
Gopher Two
PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ
SafeLeague #1 (12 team, SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Caleb, Purdy, Levis, Penix
RB: Pacheco, Estime, Vaughn
WR: Nabers, Coleman, Downs, EMoore, Jeudy, Burton, MMims, MWilson
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Sinnott, Mayer
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths
SafeLeague #2
QB: Caleb, Richardson, Purdy, JJMcCarthy
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Nabers, Worthy, McConkey, Brian Thomas Jr, Pearsall, Mims, Burton, Mingo, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Bowers, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds
PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ
SafeLeague #1 (12 team, SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Caleb, Purdy, Levis, Penix
RB: Pacheco, Estime, Vaughn
WR: Nabers, Coleman, Downs, EMoore, Jeudy, Burton, MMims, MWilson
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Sinnott, Mayer
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths
SafeLeague #2
QB: Caleb, Richardson, Purdy, JJMcCarthy
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Nabers, Worthy, McConkey, Brian Thomas Jr, Pearsall, Mims, Burton, Mingo, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Bowers, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds
Re: 2024 Off-Season Trades
Had two go down in one league tonight. Not involved.
Team A gives: 1.04, 1.06, 2.04, 2.06
Team B gives: 1.01, 3.03
Team A gives: 1.02
Team B gives: 1.05, 1.06
Team B is the same team in both trades
It’s a 2QB league.
Team A gives: 1.04, 1.06, 2.04, 2.06
Team B gives: 1.01, 3.03
Team A gives: 1.02
Team B gives: 1.05, 1.06
Team B is the same team in both trades
It’s a 2QB league.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season Trades
14 team SF TEP PPR Start 10:
Give: Tyreek Hill, and late 2025 2nd
Get: Early 2025 1st (team has pick 1.02 in 2024), and 2024 2.04.
Give: Tyreek Hill, and late 2025 2nd
Get: Early 2025 1st (team has pick 1.02 in 2024), and 2024 2.04.
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Thus making the net of trades for B:
Gives: 1.01 and 1.05 and 3.03
Gets: 1.02 and 1.04 and 2.04, 2.06
I could see someone having tier 1 1-2 tier 2 3-4. So if that’s the case for them, it’s a good deal
Re: 2024 Off-Season Trades
This trade will look even better for B after the draft. The 2.04/2.06 can be used to grab two RBs. I think that might be the best strategy for approaching RB in this class - take several in the 2nd.
I wonder who Team A in the first deal is targeting at 1.01. They paid pretty heavily to get their guy. That much better than anything I've been offered on the 1.01.
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Gave: Darnell Mooney, 2.07, 2026 4th
Got: Rashee Rice, 3.12
Got: Rashee Rice, 3.12
TEAM 1
Superflex. 1/2 PPR. No TE position.
QB: Burrow, Herbert , Murray, Young
RB: Barkley, James Cook, Achane, Brian Robinson, Spears
WR/TE: Lamb, Higgins, Godwin, Amon-Ra St Brown, Jayden Reed, G. Wilson, C. Olave, Zay Flowers, T. Boyd
K: Gay
DEF: Seahawks
2024 Picks: 2.01, 2.04, 2.08, 5.04
TEAM 2
Superflex. 1/2 PPR. No TE position, no K, no DEF.
QB: Kyler, Trevor Lawrence, Deshaun Watson, J. Stidham
RB: Bijan, JT, Kenneth Walker, Breece Hall, Allgeier, Elijah Mitchell, Isaiah Spiller
WR/TE: AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Nico Collins, Garrett Wilson, Pickens, Godwin, R. Rice, AT Perry, D. Wicks
2024 Picks: 2.04, 2.08, 2.11, 3.12, 4.11
Superflex. 1/2 PPR. No TE position.
QB: Burrow, Herbert , Murray, Young
RB: Barkley, James Cook, Achane, Brian Robinson, Spears
WR/TE: Lamb, Higgins, Godwin, Amon-Ra St Brown, Jayden Reed, G. Wilson, C. Olave, Zay Flowers, T. Boyd
K: Gay
DEF: Seahawks
2024 Picks: 2.01, 2.04, 2.08, 5.04
TEAM 2
Superflex. 1/2 PPR. No TE position, no K, no DEF.
QB: Kyler, Trevor Lawrence, Deshaun Watson, J. Stidham
RB: Bijan, JT, Kenneth Walker, Breece Hall, Allgeier, Elijah Mitchell, Isaiah Spiller
WR/TE: AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Nico Collins, Garrett Wilson, Pickens, Godwin, R. Rice, AT Perry, D. Wicks
2024 Picks: 2.04, 2.08, 2.11, 3.12, 4.11
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