Rashee Rice or Justyn Ross?

[remedy29]

Thanks for the info.

Not a lawyer, but I know enough about the law that this attorney is doing the opposite of what he should be doing….the only logic there is that Chiefs or Goodell told him to come completely clean to makes the news go away and that they’d be lenient on him.

Why would you give out that statement otherwise? It’s their job to prove you were driving. Witnesses can forget or confuse one guy with another, if there was not video evidence of him driving why would admit and play your hand that way unless there was a deal or a PR reason.

Yeah, I'm confused about the statement also. Proud of Rice's accepting the blame. Disappointed his attorney seems to be incompetent. But like you said, there's probably more to this than we currently know.

So you think a better strategy is to lie? So not only is Rice facing potential felony charges, he would be lying about being the driver where the prosecutor can prove in 2 seconds due to the video evidence, and potentially other evidence, witnesses, etc.
Besides the evidence stacked against him, he would need to blame someone else, and that person then would be going to jail. I surely think if they pissed off the prosecutor, they send the fall guy to jail.

Rice will have his chargers, perhaps felony charges, then plea down to a lesser charge.

[Anteaters]

Not a lawyer, but I know enough about the law that this attorney is doing the opposite of what he should be doing….the only logic there is that Chiefs or Goodell told him to come completely clean to makes the news go away and that they’d be lenient on him.

Why would you give out that statement otherwise? It’s their job to prove you were driving. Witnesses can forget or confuse one guy with another, if there was not video evidence of him driving why would admit and play your hand that way unless there was a deal or a PR reason.

Yeah, I'm confused about the statement also. Proud of Rice's accepting the blame. Disappointed his attorney seems to be incompetent. But like you said, there's probably more to this than we currently know.

So you think a better strategy is to lie? So not only is Rice facing potential felony charges, he would be lying about being the driver where the prosecutor can prove in 2 seconds due to the video evidence, and potentially other evidence, witnesses, etc.
Besides the evidence stacked against him, he would need to blame someone else, and that person then would be going to jail. I surely think if they pissed off the prosecutor, they send the fall guy to jail.

Rice will have his chargers, perhaps felony charges, then plea down to a lesser charge.

Thank you for your input.

[Bronco Billy]

Not a lawyer, but I know enough about the law that this attorney is doing the opposite of what he should be doing….the only logic there is that Chiefs or Goodell told him to come completely clean to makes the news go away and that they’d be lenient on him.

Why would you give out that statement otherwise? It’s their job to prove you were driving. Witnesses can forget or confuse one guy with another, if there was not video evidence of him driving why would admit and play your hand that way unless there was a deal or a PR reason.

Yeah, I'm confused about the statement also. Proud of Rice's accepting the blame. Disappointed his attorney seems to be incompetent. But like you said, there's probably more to this than we currently know.

So you think a better strategy is to lie? So not only is Rice facing potential felony charges, he would be lying about being the driver where the prosecutor can prove in 2 seconds due to the video evidence, and potentially other evidence, witnesses, etc.
Besides the evidence stacked against him, he would need to blame someone else, and that person then would be going to jail. I surely think if they pissed off the prosecutor, they send the fall guy to jail.

Rice will have his chargers, perhaps felony charges, then plea down to a lesser charge.

I think the lawyer is serving his client’s best interest. Rice was most probably a slam dunk for being found to be one of the drivers, there’s literally no viable defense for violating the statutes I cited earlier, Rice can’t avoid the financial quicksand he’d about to sink into, so the chosen path was to own up to everything and throw themselves on the mercy of The Shield in an effort to get back on the field as quickly as possible.

The league is extraordinarily thorough in their investigations into these situations - sometimes moreso than authorities (ie - Zeke). He gave their investigators and well as the authorities nowhere to go, now it’s on to the punishment phase. The only thing I think that could be introduced additionally would be if there is strong to irrefutable evidence that he got hammered at the bowling alley prior to getting in the vehicle.

[81-]

Not a lawyer, but I know enough about the law that this attorney is doing the opposite of what he should be doing….the only logic there is that Chiefs or Goodell told him to come completely clean to makes the news go away and that they’d be lenient on him.

Why would you give out that statement otherwise? It’s their job to prove you were driving. Witnesses can forget or confuse one guy with another, if there was not video evidence of him driving why would admit and play your hand that way unless there was a deal or a PR reason.

Yeah, I'm confused about the statement also. Proud of Rice's accepting the blame. Disappointed his attorney seems to be incompetent. But like you said, there's probably more to this than we currently know.

So you think a better strategy is to lie? So not only is Rice facing potential felony charges, he would be lying about being the driver where the prosecutor can prove in 2 seconds due to the video evidence, and potentially other evidence, witnesses, etc.
Besides the evidence stacked against him, he would need to blame someone else, and that person then would be going to jail. I surely think if they pissed off the prosecutor, they send the fall guy to jail.

Rice will have his chargers, perhaps felony charges, then plea down to a lesser charge.

You don't have to lie, but you also don't have to admit anything

[81-]

Plus 10.8 grams of mary Jane.

I'm pro pot, but not when driving.


What a dumbass

[TheTroll]

Plus 10.8 grams of mary Jane.

I'm pro pot, but not when driving.


What a dumbass

Flee from the scene but forget your ganja. Nice. Hopefully he took his unregistered Glock

[Shoreline Steamers]

Plus 10.8 grams of mary Jane.

I'm pro pot, but not when driving.


What a dumbass

About 3/4 of an ounce. Not a huge amount (intent to distribute or anything like that). But still... Not good.

[Jigga94]

Plus 10.8 grams of mary Jane.

I'm pro pot, but not when driving.


What a dumbass

About 3/4 of an ounce. Not a huge amount (intent to distribute or anything like that). But still... Not good.

Not to be that guy, but it's less than 1/2 Oz. (~28g to 1 Oz) Some states that's legal/decriminalized, Texas probably not though.

Still 100% brain dead to leave it behind when you ran with bags anyways

[moishetreats]

I think this is getting out of control. It's pretty easy to bash someone we've never met and when we don't have all the info. And even easier when that person is a celebrity.

We see so often people in the spotlight doing horrific, malicious things and getting away with it. In many cases, multiple times. They lie, blame others, never take accountability, get a slap on the wrist at worst, and then get cheered as soon as they return to the field. As a Wisconsin guy, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Braun, and Brett Favre all stick out. Each city, state, fan base has its own examples.

Still without knowing all the info, Rice wasn't maliciously attacking someone. Doing something stupid? Yes. Dangerous? Absolutely!! And should he be held accountable? 100%. I am NOT suggesting we ignore it. But, he's a person with no prior rap sheet as far as I could tell, who did something incredibly stupid and dangerous. And then took full responsibility for it. Offered to pay for all the damages out of pocket and said he was the driver. Was that just a savvy move? Potentially. And also potentially someone taking accountability for his actions. Honestly, I wish we had a hell of a lot more of that in society (and think we'll be wishing for more and more of that in the coming months).

Look, whatever his punishment is -- jail, suspension, fine, I don't know -- I don't think we should get rid of it because he apologized and took accountability. Again with the limited info I/we have, I'm fine with him getting the lighter end of the sentence. But still this is not a guy who raped, beat up, or killed someone maliciously. He could have accidentally by his actions, and it's still different if something is done with violent premeditation or stupidity. And he took accountability.

Rather than jumping on the scum-of-the-earth bandwagon, let's appreciate that he owned up to what he did, hold him legally and financially accountable for his actions, and save our vitriol for those who maliciously do violent or illegal things, blame others, rip into the system, and seem to get away with it.

IMHO

[Bronco Billy]

I think this is getting out of control. It's pretty easy to bash someone we've never met and when we don't have all the info. And even easier when that person is a celebrity.

We see so often people in the spotlight doing horrific, malicious things and getting away with it. In many cases, multiple times. They lie, blame others, never take accountability, get a slap on the wrist at worst, and then get cheered as soon as they return to the field. As a Wisconsin guy, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Braun, and Brett Favre all stick out. Each city, state, fan base has its own examples.

Still without knowing all the info, Rice wasn't maliciously attacking someone. Doing something stupid? Yes. Dangerous? Absolutely!! And should he be held accountable? 100%. I am NOT suggesting we ignore it. But, he's a person with no prior rap sheet as far as I could tell, who did something incredibly stupid and dangerous. And then took full responsibility for it. Offered to pay for all the damages out of pocket and said he was the driver. Was that just a savvy move? Potentially. And also potentially someone taking accountability for his actions. Honestly, I wish we had a hell of a lot more of that in society (and think we'll be wishing for more and more of that in the coming months).

Look, whatever his punishment is -- jail, suspension, fine, I don't know -- I don't think we should get rid of it because he apologized and took accountability. Again with the limited info I/we have, I'm fine with him getting the lighter end of the sentence. But still this is not a guy who raped, beat up, or killed someone maliciously. He could have accidentally by his actions, and it's still different if something is done with violent premeditation or stupidity. And he took accountability.

Rather than jumping on the scum-of-the-earth bandwagon, let's appreciate that he owned up to what he did, hold him legally and financially accountable for his actions, and save our vitriol for those who maliciously do violent or illegal things, blame others, rip into the system, and seem to get away with it.

IMHO

We’re going to have to agree to disagree. What he did was malicious, thoughtless, and incredibly dangerous. It was only through shear luck that multiple people weren’t badly hurt or worse. Then he walked away without a thought to the damage he may have done to other people and dodged authorities for days before owning up, and that was likely only to benefit himself.

I honestly don’t understand your position at all. I guess if he would have fired a gun through a random group of people rather than turning 2 vehicles into high speed projectiles fewer people would be taking the “boys will be boys” stance.

[Anteaters]

I think this is getting out of control. It's pretty easy to bash someone we've never met and when we don't have all the info. And even easier when that person is a celebrity.

We see so often people in the spotlight doing horrific, malicious things and getting away with it. In many cases, multiple times. They lie, blame others, never take accountability, get a slap on the wrist at worst, and then get cheered as soon as they return to the field. As a Wisconsin guy, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Braun, and Brett Favre all stick out. Each city, state, fan base has its own examples.

Still without knowing all the info, Rice wasn't maliciously attacking someone. Doing something stupid? Yes. Dangerous? Absolutely!! And should he be held accountable? 100%. I am NOT suggesting we ignore it. But, he's a person with no prior rap sheet as far as I could tell, who did something incredibly stupid and dangerous. And then took full responsibility for it. Offered to pay for all the damages out of pocket and said he was the driver. Was that just a savvy move? Potentially. And also potentially someone taking accountability for his actions. Honestly, I wish we had a hell of a lot more of that in society (and think we'll be wishing for more and more of that in the coming months).

Look, whatever his punishment is -- jail, suspension, fine, I don't know -- I don't think we should get rid of it because he apologized and took accountability. Again with the limited info I/we have, I'm fine with him getting the lighter end of the sentence. But still this is not a guy who raped, beat up, or killed someone maliciously. He could have accidentally by his actions, and it's still different if something is done with violent premeditation or stupidity. And he took accountability.

Rather than jumping on the scum-of-the-earth bandwagon, let's appreciate that he owned up to what he did, hold him legally and financially accountable for his actions, and save our vitriol for those who maliciously do violent or illegal things, blame others, rip into the system, and seem to get away with it.

IMHO

well said

[kadun2]

I think this is getting out of control. It's pretty easy to bash someone we've never met and when we don't have all the info. And even easier when that person is a celebrity.

We see so often people in the spotlight doing horrific, malicious things and getting away with it. In many cases, multiple times. They lie, blame others, never take accountability, get a slap on the wrist at worst, and then get cheered as soon as they return to the field. As a Wisconsin guy, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Braun, and Brett Favre all stick out. Each city, state, fan base has its own examples.

Still without knowing all the info, Rice wasn't maliciously attacking someone. Doing something stupid? Yes. Dangerous? Absolutely!! And should he be held accountable? 100%. I am NOT suggesting we ignore it. But, he's a person with no prior rap sheet as far as I could tell, who did something incredibly stupid and dangerous. And then took full responsibility for it. Offered to pay for all the damages out of pocket and said he was the driver. Was that just a savvy move? Potentially. And also potentially someone taking accountability for his actions. Honestly, I wish we had a hell of a lot more of that in society (and think we'll be wishing for more and more of that in the coming months).

Look, whatever his punishment is -- jail, suspension, fine, I don't know -- I don't think we should get rid of it because he apologized and took accountability. Again with the limited info I/we have, I'm fine with him getting the lighter end of the sentence. But still this is not a guy who raped, beat up, or killed someone maliciously. He could have accidentally by his actions, and it's still different if something is done with violent premeditation or stupidity. And he took accountability.

Rather than jumping on the scum-of-the-earth bandwagon, let's appreciate that he owned up to what he did, hold him legally and financially accountable for his actions, and save our vitriol for those who maliciously do violent or illegal things, blame others, rip into the system, and seem to get away with it.

IMHO

We’re going to have to agree to disagree. What he did was malicious, thoughtless, and incredibly dangerous. It was only through shear luck that multiple people weren’t badly hurt or worse. Then he walked away without a thought to the damage he may have done to other people and dodged authorities for days before owning up, and that was likely only to benefit himself.

I honestly don’t understand your position at all. I guess if he would have fired a gun through a random group of people rather than turning 2 vehicles into high speed projectiles fewer people would be taking the “boys will be boys” stance.

I agree, well said, and good point in the last sentence.

[Kurt G.O.A.T.]

High powered cars with rice and his mates driving at excessive speed are loaded weapons looking for some poor sap to crash into and cause severe damage. It's malicious as it gets. I wish the laws would get up to speed with that fact. These people have no regard for other people on the road minding their own business.

"I didn't mean to kill that person even though I was driving at 3 times the legal limit" is the biggest cop out excuse in law. Screw those idiots.

[Jigga94]

I think this is getting out of control. It's pretty easy to bash someone we've never met and when we don't have all the info. And even easier when that person is a celebrity.

We see so often people in the spotlight doing horrific, malicious things and getting away with it. In many cases, multiple times. They lie, blame others, never take accountability, get a slap on the wrist at worst, and then get cheered as soon as they return to the field. As a Wisconsin guy, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Braun, and Brett Favre all stick out. Each city, state, fan base has its own examples.

Still without knowing all the info, Rice wasn't maliciously attacking someone. Doing something stupid? Yes. Dangerous? Absolutely!! And should he be held accountable? 100%. I am NOT suggesting we ignore it. But, he's a person with no prior rap sheet as far as I could tell, who did something incredibly stupid and dangerous. And then took full responsibility for it. Offered to pay for all the damages out of pocket and said he was the driver. Was that just a savvy move? Potentially. And also potentially someone taking accountability for his actions. Honestly, I wish we had a hell of a lot more of that in society (and think we'll be wishing for more and more of that in the coming months).

Look, whatever his punishment is -- jail, suspension, fine, I don't know -- I don't think we should get rid of it because he apologized and took accountability. Again with the limited info I/we have, I'm fine with him getting the lighter end of the sentence. But still this is not a guy who raped, beat up, or killed someone maliciously. He could have accidentally by his actions, and it's still different if something is done with violent premeditation or stupidity. And he took accountability.

Rather than jumping on the scum-of-the-earth bandwagon, let's appreciate that he owned up to what he did, hold him legally and financially accountable for his actions, and save our vitriol for those who maliciously do violent or illegal things, blame others, rip into the system, and seem to get away with it.

IMHO

We’re going to have to agree to disagree. What he did was malicious, thoughtless, and incredibly dangerous. It was only through shear luck that multiple people weren’t badly hurt or worse. Then he walked away without a thought to the damage he may have done to other people and dodged authorities for days before owning up, and that was likely only to benefit himself.

I honestly don’t understand your position at all. I guess if he would have fired a gun through a random group of people rather than turning 2 vehicles into high speed projectiles fewer people would be taking the “boys will be boys” stance.

For real. There's really no excuse for this kind of behavior. I get he owned up to it, but that doesn't absolve him

[Jrblaha]

That small of an amount of weed, and the fact he didn’t take it with him when he fled, makes it more probable he was under the influence while driving imo. But, that’s purely reckless speculation on my part