Kyren Williams Trade Offer

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Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby ausmith26 » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:07 pm

Give - Tua, 1.10, & 2025 3rd
Get - Kyren Williams

Value seems good and adds a young RB to pair with Bijan. Seems like a no brainer to me but wanted to get another opinion before accepting. Thanks!
12 Team-1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1 PK 1 D/ST (30 man offseason rosters. Cut to 20 by week 1 / 0.5 PPR)

2023 2nd Place

QB: P. Mahomes, K. Cousins
RB: Bij. Robinson, K. Williams, D. Henry, N. Chubb, A. Gibson, C. Edwards-Helaire, L. Fournette
WR: J. Chase, C. Lamb, C. Ridley, M. Evans, B. Cooks, Z. Jones, T. Atwell, C. Austin III
TE: M. Andrews, C. Otton
PK: J. Tucker
D/ST: Streaming

Taxi:

2024 Picks: 1.01, 2.03, 2.07, 3.07
2025 Picks: 2nd
2026 Picks: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby Black Adam » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:14 pm

Value seems fine but if I'm the Kyren owner I'm passing on that quite easily, especially in a shallow 1QB league.
10 Tm Dynasty 1QB/IDP/1.0 PPR/40 Rst
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP


2015: 7th πŸ’©
2016: 4th :x
2017: 8th πŸ’©
2018: 3rd πŸ₯‰
2019: 6th πŸ’©
2020: 1st πŸ₯‡
2021: 2nd πŸ₯ˆ
2022: 2nd πŸ₯ˆ
2023: 1st πŸ₯‡

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby slaughterrt » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:15 pm

Hard to trade for a non-elite RB pre-draft. I would be hesitant about making a move for almost any RB right now.

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:23 pm

Black Adam wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:14 pm Value seems fine but if I'm the Kyren owner I'm passing on that quite easily, especially in a shallow 1QB league.
If he's looking for opinions before accepting, that means it's on the table. He's got the Tua side.

Agree with holding off for now. I've been burned in the past by trading for RB's early in the offseason, only to see things go sideways. Though it's not a bad price if you're leaning toward taking the leap.
14 Team, No-PPR, 20 Man Roster, TD Heavy, TD = 6, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan

14 Team, .5 PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
TE: K. Pitts, D. Njoku

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby ausmith26 » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:51 pm

slaughterrt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:15 pm Hard to trade for a non-elite RB pre-draft. I would be hesitant about making a move for almost any RB right now.
Totally get the idea of waiting, but I am also a huge Rams fan haha. I was tempted to accept anyways until someone texted me offering Breece Hall for my 1.02 straight up.

Is that elite enough to trade for before the draft?
12 Team-1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1 PK 1 D/ST (30 man offseason rosters. Cut to 20 by week 1 / 0.5 PPR)

2023 2nd Place

QB: P. Mahomes, K. Cousins
RB: Bij. Robinson, K. Williams, D. Henry, N. Chubb, A. Gibson, C. Edwards-Helaire, L. Fournette
WR: J. Chase, C. Lamb, C. Ridley, M. Evans, B. Cooks, Z. Jones, T. Atwell, C. Austin III
TE: M. Andrews, C. Otton
PK: J. Tucker
D/ST: Streaming

Taxi:

2024 Picks: 1.01, 2.03, 2.07, 3.07
2025 Picks: 2nd
2026 Picks: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby Black Adam » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:52 pm

Shoreline Steamers wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:23 pm
Black Adam wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:14 pm Value seems fine but if I'm the Kyren owner I'm passing on that quite easily, especially in a shallow 1QB league.
If he's looking for opinions before accepting, that means it's on the table. He's got the Tua side.
Yes, that is how trades work. :lol:

Said differently, since I don’t know who started the negotiation: Seems like a fair value but not a trade I would make if I was the other owner.
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Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP


2015: 7th πŸ’©
2016: 4th :x
2017: 8th πŸ’©
2018: 3rd πŸ₯‰
2019: 6th πŸ’©
2020: 1st πŸ₯‡
2021: 2nd πŸ₯ˆ
2022: 2nd πŸ₯ˆ
2023: 1st πŸ₯‡

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby Black Adam » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:12 pm

ausmith26 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:51 pm Is that elite enough to trade for before the draft?
While I think BH is good, I’m not crowning him β€œelite” before he breaks 1K and strings together more than 1 good season.

I’d call him a good foundational piece you could probably build around long-term though.

For me this also a push value-wise, so unless you are a Breece fan or think Breece >>> rook WR scoring-wise, I’d ask for more or simply hold.


I don’t think your RBs need more work than your WOs FWIW.
10 Tm Dynasty 1QB/IDP/1.0 PPR/40 Rst
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP


2015: 7th πŸ’©
2016: 4th :x
2017: 8th πŸ’©
2018: 3rd πŸ₯‰
2019: 6th πŸ’©
2020: 1st πŸ₯‡
2021: 2nd πŸ₯ˆ
2022: 2nd πŸ₯ˆ
2023: 1st πŸ₯‡

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby Mtt33 » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:42 pm

I would absolutely take the Williams trade in a 1qb. I’d take the breece trade in a 1qb as well.

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:09 pm

Black Adam wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:52 pm
Shoreline Steamers wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:23 pm
Black Adam wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:14 pm Value seems fine but if I'm the Kyren owner I'm passing on that quite easily, especially in a shallow 1QB league.
If he's looking for opinions before accepting, that means it's on the table. He's got the Tua side.
Yes, that is how trades work. :lol:

Said differently, since I don’t know who started the negotiation: Seems like a fair value but not a trade I would make if I was the other owner.
Yep. I'm up to speed on how trades work. Point is, the underlined is irrelevant. The offer is on the table for the OP to accept or not. Said differently, "That's a steal for Kyren," if that's what you think (and it appears that is the case).

I will say, I agree with Black Adam looking at your roster. Your WR's do need more work than your RB's. With 1.01 and 1.02 you could grab MHJ and Nabers (or Odunze if that's more your preference). Get some projected "elite" youth at the position where you start 3 (versus 2 RB) and gain positional longevity.

Your RB's should be OK to carry you through this season, then you could look to add a RB in the 2025 class which projects to have better talent (or possibly at 1.10 depending on how your draft unfolds). Personal bias, but I always make sure I feel strong at WR and QB, then worry about filling RB's last since they generally give you fewer productive years.

And if you find yourself out of contention, look to sell some of your aging players (Henry, Evans, Hopkins, for example) for some future draft capital.
14 Team, No-PPR, 20 Man Roster, TD Heavy, TD = 6, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan

14 Team, .5 PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
TE: K. Pitts, D. Njoku

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby Anteaters » Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:36 am

The Tua+1.10 kind of irks me on the surface, but it's a very good deal to get an elite RB in 1QB.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby TheTroll » Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:24 am

Kyren side pretty easy in 1QB. 1.10 is a crapshoot and Tua is more replaceable
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby tstafford » Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:30 am

TheTroll wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:24 am Kyren side pretty easy in 1QB. 1.10 is a crapshoot and Tua is more replaceable
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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby The.Big.Spank » Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:50 am

Mtt33 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:42 pm I would absolutely take the Williams trade in a 1qb. I’d take the breece trade in a 1qb as well.
Agree
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:15 am

id prob make both deals thats adding 2 absolute hammers to your lineup. idk why everyone is so poopoo on kyren he and cmc were the only dudes getting projected for 20+ a week. he had 2 games all season without either 100+, a TD, or both
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Kyren Williams Trade Offer

Postby pmart33 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:26 am

I like the Kyren side in 1QB. Williams getting through free agency without a high profile RB landing in LA was huge for his 2024 value. The Rams will probably draft a back this year but there isn't one in this class that is going to relegate Williams to a backup role.


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