2025 1st for 2024 1st

[wickerkat1212]

Oh sorry, I just re-read this, this morning and think I understand what you’re saying. Since you have the 1.02 this year, your 2025 1st should be perceived by others to be early. I wouldn’t make that assessment and don’t think many other owners would either.

I view it with a lot of uncertainty. Your team has some good players and has the 1.02 and 1.06 so there’s a good chance your team improves. You also seem like you might make a lot of moves which increases the chances of improvement. The other issue is we are pretty much at peak value for this year’s rookie picks…after the combine but before the draft. This year’s draft class looks loaded and deep relative to most years. I don’t have a good feel for what next year’s class is like. It could be a dud. So there’s a lot of risk moving a 2024 1st for a 25 not to mention you have to wait a year

There’s likely 4 QBs going in the first round and lots of very good WRs and Bowers. So this pushes more solid non QBs down the board. Where next year could be a year like 2022 when the only one bad QB when in the first round, Kenny Pickett.

If you want to try to do this, I would recommend offering if for the 1.07 and 1.08 and see what happens. If you don’t want to go any later than that then don’t. But I’m viewing the 1.10 this year closer to the 1.06 a lot of years

Cool, thanks for that. This is kind of how I feel. I'll see how the offers go and how they respond. I'm starting with the 1.04 and 1.05 (I have the 1.06). Then I'll keep going.

[wickerkat1212]

The 1.08 is where Id start looking at teams I think will have an early 25 1st. For me that is a massive tier drop.

Agree.

[wickerkat1212]

random future first usually only gets you into back half of the first at best unless you got a glaring dumpster fire of a team.

ive traded my future first for 1.12 a bunch but idk how many times ive ever seen a 1 for 1 future first for a current one where the current first was a premium pick (talking many leagues over many years and various formats)

Thanks, for that. Appreciate it.

[wickerkat1212]

Top 3 WR top 4 QB top TE then there’s a drop. That said, I’d still prefer taking a player in the 1.9 to 1.12 range than to kick the can. Also most years one more sneaks in to the top tier (ex Brooks to Dallas, Thomas to Buf). And yes, cannot predict where the 1st will go. All that said, you might be able to land the 1.9-1.12 but I haven’t seen that trade go down at all.

Thanks for this.

[SoftwoodGrampian]

If you’re in say an FFPC league, teams at 1.1 and 1.2 had stronger finishes than 1.3, 1.4 etc

[FiremanEd]

Offering a 2025 1st for the 1.04 or 1.05 is…bold. So much risk on the other teams side I can’t think of any rational person who would do this.

If you get 1.07 I’d consider that a huge win. 1.08 is where I think you could maybe get a best case where someone thinks on it. 1.09 where someone may be willing to take the risk.

[knotts4372]

KTC has 2025 early pick - 2024 1.06. Which is about what I'm thinking.

i see you've mentioned ktc trade calculator in alot of your posts i think its time you just retire that thought process of checking that cause barely anyone actually thinks anything about them and in alot of cases you bringing up the valuation like that is probably a detriment for you. i know personally when other teams im trying to trade with bring up anything about a trade calculator i immediately have kinda a chuckle and pretty much ignore the comment. i would have to think alot of the fantasy community agrees though i guess i could be wrong

[wickerkat1212]

Offering a 2025 1st for the 1.04 or 1.05 is…bold. So much risk on the other teams side I can’t think of any rational person who would do this.

If you get 1.07 I’d consider that a huge win. 1.08 is where I think you could maybe get a best case where someone thinks on it. 1.09 where someone may be willing to take the risk.

Thanks, yeah, trying to decide how much I'm willing to give up what may be the 1.02 again for a stud player this year. I really like the guys up to just about eight. After that, not so much.

1. Williams
2. Harrison
3. Daniels
4. Nabers—rising
5. Maye—who may be falling
6. Odunze
7. Bowers
8. Thomas

We get excited about every year, but the 1.02 next year will certainly be a stud. IDK where I'll be picking.

[wickerkat1212]

KTC has 2025 early pick - 2024 1.06. Which is about what I'm thinking.

i see you've mentioned ktc trade calculator in alot of your posts i think its time you just retire that thought process of checking that cause barely anyone actually thinks anything about them and in alot of cases you bringing up the valuation like that is probably a detriment for you. i know personally when other teams im trying to trade with bring up anything about a trade calculator i immediately have kinda a chuckle and pretty much ignore the comment. i would have to think alot of the fantasy community agrees though i guess i could be wrong

The only reason I mentioned KTC is that the guy I was trying to TRADE WITH told me that he uses KTC as a trade evaluator. So I offered him a trade where it was 16,000 to 12,000 and he still passed. Was just trying to use his own metrics. I use a number of calculators, including the one here at DLF.

[MacDaddy123]

KTC has 2025 early pick - 2024 1.06. Which is about what I'm thinking.

Everyone thinks that if you can get the 1.06 for a future 1st, you should do that.

I agree.

I don't care what KTC is saying. I'm 100% not giving the 1.06 for a 2025 1st.

Agree 100%. No one is giving up 1.06 for a random 25 1st.
I would say the best you could hope for would be 1.09, that is the absolute best.
More likely 1.10-1.12.

[MacDaddy123]

KTC has 2025 early pick - 2024 1.06. Which is about what I'm thinking.

i see you've mentioned ktc trade calculator in alot of your posts i think its time you just retire that thought process of checking that cause barely anyone actually thinks anything about them and in alot of cases you bringing up the valuation like that is probably a detriment for you. i know personally when other teams im trying to trade with bring up anything about a trade calculator i immediately have kinda a chuckle and pretty much ignore the comment. i would have to think alot of the fantasy community agrees though i guess i could be wrong

The only reason I mentioned KTC is that the guy I was trying to TRADE WITH told me that he uses KTC as a trade evaluator. So I offered him a trade where it was 16,000 to 12,000 and he still passed. Was just trying to use his own metrics. I use a number of calculators, including the one here at DLF.

Yeah, KTC is bad, as they overvalue draft picks and youth.

[smbkrypt24]

I would give up 1.08 for your 2025 first, but nothing before that in SF.

[SoftwoodGrampian]

1.8 is JJ Mc in SF leagues, why isn’t he listed? If he goes in the NFL top ten then he is an auto pick there, if not sooner.

[Tvols]

Have you improved your team enough to get out of the potential 1-02 next year , that would be a question I would be asking and if you dont have a significant chance at improvement I probably would not trade that pick myself.

[bigbuck22]

I think it's highly unlikely that you get better than 1.09 in this hyped draft class. Maybe you could snag a pick or two better if your team is a lock for a mid to early pick next year and we see a few ugly landing spots (which we inevitably will). You'll have to wait out the NFL draft for that to happen and it's still probably unlikely.