Should I counter?

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Should I counter?

Postby Kox1707 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:14 am

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I'm trying to get the 1.02 from a QB-needy team.

I offerd him Levis and Addison for the 1.02. He counterd with Richardson + Addison which I am not willing to accept.

I'm thinking about countering with Bryce Young + Addison. Is that an overpay?

My plan is to grab Caleb, MHJ, Nabers and whatever QB is left at 1.05.
Team 1
14 Team SF .5 PPR; Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SFlex, 1 K, 1 Def
QB: A. Richardson, B. Young, W. Levis
RB: K. Miller, T. Bigsby
WR: D. London, J. Addison, J. Smith-Njigba, K. Toney, T. Tucker, P. Washington
TE: P. Freiermuth, T. McBride, S. LaPorta, C. Otten

2024: 1.01, 1.03, 1.05, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01

Team 2
12 Team SF PPR; Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, 1 SF (0.5 TE Premium)
QB: C.J. Stroud, K. Murray, B. Purdy, C. Tune
RB: J. Gibbs, N. Harris, R. Johnson, K. Miller, D. Singletary, T. Bigsby, Z. Evans
WR: C.D. Lamb, C. Watson, T. Dell, C. Kirk, M. Wilson, M. Gallup, H. Renfrew
TE: T.J. Hockenson, C. Okonkwo, N. Fant

2024: 1.06, 3.06, 3.07, 4.03, 4.06

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Re: Should I counter?

Postby noen10 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:19 am

I'd move off Bryce young with how Putrid his oline is and how small he is for the chance at all three of those and the other QB. Caleb Williams is going into a significantly better situation that what young is in so he should be an upgrade already.
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10 Team PPR, 1 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2020 finish: 10-6 3rd place
2021 Finished: 2nd place 8-6
2022 finished 5th 9-5
2023 finished 1st 9-5


QB: J.Allen, TLaw, K.Murray
RB: J.Taylor, KWIII, D.Henry, Akers, Jav.Williams, K.Williams, Khunt, MCarter, ZWhite
WR: CD lamb, J.Waddle, D.London, Puka, D.Johnson, Keenan Allen, J.Williams, Tank, KShakir, QJohnston, MWilson, DDouglas, RShaheed, X.Gipson
TE: Hock, Mayer


Picks:
2024: 3
2025: 3
2026: 1, 3


Team 2:
10 Team PPR, START: 2 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2023 finished 3rd 7-7

QB: Burrow, Richardson, Minshew, Stafford, Trask
RB: Najee, Mixon, JConner, DCook, Mostert, Moss, KHerbert, KWilliams, Tsermon
WR: JChase, DK, CKirk, CWatson, XGipson, KBourne, DParker, Chark, NBrown, CAustin, TTucker, APierce, RShaheed, Ma.Mims
TE: TJ Hock, Mayer


Picks:
2024: 1.7, 2.7, 3.7
2025: 1, 2, 3

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Re: Should I counter?

Postby Viking386 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:22 am

Id hate to throw in the towel on Young after one season but this is a solid trade to reset.
Main Home League
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson
RB: Nobody worth typing
WR: ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, Tre Tucker, Bell, Austin,
TE: McBride and Dulcich

Draft Picks
-1.01, 1.07, 2 24 3rds and 4 24 4ths.
-4 25 1sts, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-3 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

2022 Champions in full rebuild. Looking to contend again in 2025.

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Re: Should I counter?

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:23 am

Young + Addison is pretty much the same as Levis + Addison
I don't see you getting the 1.02 unless you're willing to give up 1.05+ or London+

The 1.02 is currently a top-15 dynasty asset. You're trying to pair two players outside the top-50. I think you've gotta go back to the drawing board

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Re: Should I counter?

Postby Kox1707 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:44 am

Yeah he rejected that as expected (Bryce + Addison for 1.02). Would you add anything or just stay where I am?

I'd really like to get the 1.02 while get rid of one of my QBs not named Richardson.
Team 1
14 Team SF .5 PPR; Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SFlex, 1 K, 1 Def
QB: A. Richardson, B. Young, W. Levis
RB: K. Miller, T. Bigsby
WR: D. London, J. Addison, J. Smith-Njigba, K. Toney, T. Tucker, P. Washington
TE: P. Freiermuth, T. McBride, S. LaPorta, C. Otten

2024: 1.01, 1.03, 1.05, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01

Team 2
12 Team SF PPR; Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, 1 SF (0.5 TE Premium)
QB: C.J. Stroud, K. Murray, B. Purdy, C. Tune
RB: J. Gibbs, N. Harris, R. Johnson, K. Miller, D. Singletary, T. Bigsby, Z. Evans
WR: C.D. Lamb, C. Watson, T. Dell, C. Kirk, M. Wilson, M. Gallup, H. Renfrew
TE: T.J. Hockenson, C. Okonkwo, N. Fant

2024: 1.06, 3.06, 3.07, 4.03, 4.06

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Re: Should I counter?

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:49 am

Bryce + McBride?

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Re: Should I counter?

Postby Viking386 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:59 am

I don't see the need for the 1.02. You get Caleb and then Nabers/MHJ then you could also land Odunze. Selling Young now just doesn't make sense. Your team is in a good spot and you have so many valuable picks this year. Just hold
Main Home League
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson
RB: Nobody worth typing
WR: ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, Tre Tucker, Bell, Austin,
TE: McBride and Dulcich

Draft Picks
-1.01, 1.07, 2 24 3rds and 4 24 4ths.
-4 25 1sts, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-3 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

2022 Champions in full rebuild. Looking to contend again in 2025.

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Re: Should I counter?

Postby Kox1707 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:07 am

SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:49 am Bryce + McBride?
He's got Pitts and Kincaid and it's not TE Premium so I don't think that changes anything.

I asked him what he would need to make it happen. We'll see. :think:

Had a couple of conversations with him in the past months, he's really hard to trade with. Maybe it's because my offers are too light? I don't know.
Team 1
14 Team SF .5 PPR; Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SFlex, 1 K, 1 Def
QB: A. Richardson, B. Young, W. Levis
RB: K. Miller, T. Bigsby
WR: D. London, J. Addison, J. Smith-Njigba, K. Toney, T. Tucker, P. Washington
TE: P. Freiermuth, T. McBride, S. LaPorta, C. Otten

2024: 1.01, 1.03, 1.05, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01

Team 2
12 Team SF PPR; Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, 1 SF (0.5 TE Premium)
QB: C.J. Stroud, K. Murray, B. Purdy, C. Tune
RB: J. Gibbs, N. Harris, R. Johnson, K. Miller, D. Singletary, T. Bigsby, Z. Evans
WR: C.D. Lamb, C. Watson, T. Dell, C. Kirk, M. Wilson, M. Gallup, H. Renfrew
TE: T.J. Hockenson, C. Okonkwo, N. Fant

2024: 1.06, 3.06, 3.07, 4.03, 4.06

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Re: Should I counter?

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:27 am

Kox1707 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:07 am
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:49 am Bryce + McBride?
He's got Pitts and Kincaid and it's not TE Premium so I don't think that changes anything.

I asked him what he would need to make it happen. We'll see. :think:

Had a couple of conversations with him in the past months, he's really hard to trade with. Maybe it's because my offers are too light? I don't know.
I mean those offers might be fine on a trade calculator. But this is where context and logic come in. The reason you're willing to move on from Bryce Young is not a secret to any reasonably active manager. Year 1 was bad, year 2 will be a struggle. Addison has the alpha-est(?) of alphas ahead of him in JJ, and will have either Sam Darnold (at worst) or an unknown rookie (at best) throwing to him. Those would be easy declines for me too for a borderline 1st round startup pick

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Re: Should I counter?

Postby TheTroll » Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:09 am

Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:27 am
Kox1707 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:07 am
SoftwoodGrampian wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:49 am Bryce + McBride?
He's got Pitts and Kincaid and it's not TE Premium so I don't think that changes anything.

I asked him what he would need to make it happen. We'll see. :think:

Had a couple of conversations with him in the past months, he's really hard to trade with. Maybe it's because my offers are too light? I don't know.
I mean those offers might be fine on a trade calculator. But this is where context and logic come in. The reason you're willing to move on from Bryce Young is not a secret to any reasonably active manager. Year 1 was bad, year 2 will be a struggle. Addison has the alpha-est(?) of alphas ahead of him in JJ, and will have either Sam Darnold (at worst) or an unknown rookie (at best) throwing to him. Those would be easy declines for me too for a borderline 1st round startup pick
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Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5


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