Murray -v- 1.13

[Adam_172]

Hey all,

Been a while since I was on here - hope everyone is okay this offseason!

For Team 1 below i've had a shocking offseason with all 3 of my QB's losing their job

I tanked last year and ended with 1.02 (probably Nabers) and then won the 1.13 in the Toilet Bowl. I would think I'm probably middle of the pack this year (maybe low end with no QB!). I have a heap of serviceable RB's but limited WR's. Luckily I drafted Tank and Puca last year in the 4th.

I made an offer of 2.02 for Kyler Murray and he countered with 1.13.

Seeing as i'm not competing do you guys think this trade is worth it for my build or just try and use the 1.13 or 2.02 for a rookie QB?

[tstafford]

I mean if you were willing to pay the 2.02, what's the difference of giving the 1.13? Just a couple of spots, right? It's a reasonable price to pay for Kyler in a 1QB league where you desperately need a QB. I'm taking Kyler over the rookies other than CW for now. And my guess is CW doesn't make it to the 2nd round in most drafts.

[Adam_172]

I mean if you were willing to pay the 2.02, what's the difference of giving the 1.13? Just a couple of spots, right? It's a reasonable price to pay for Kyler in a 1QB league where you desperately need a QB. I'm taking Kyler over the rookies other than CW for now. And my guess is CW doesn't make it to the 2nd round in most drafts.

Yeah, only 2 spots difference so it shouldn't make a huge difference if I was dead set on the deal. I'm more questioning whether I should use the pick for a rookie QB and not an established top 10(?) QB when I'm not competing.

Your view seems to be that the value is there, outside of Caleb, any way so you would take the deal?

[Paul717]

That's pretty good value for Murray.

Sitting here in March, all draft picks look shiny and nice.

Probably when the dust settles, it won't look as good in that range of picks. It's entirely possible CW isn't the only QB that doesn't make it to 1.13, even in a 1 QB league. You can take a closer look at your league draft history, league mates, and their team needs; and try to guess which QBs MIGHT be available at that slot. Then compare that rookie QB to Murray and think about which one you'd rather have. That's one way of approaching it.

[collbey]

On value Murray is worth the 1.13. The downside is if you are still rebuilding, he will likely hurt next year's draft spot.

[Adam_172]

That's pretty good value for Murray.

Sitting here in March, all draft picks look shiny and nice.

Probably when the dust settles, it won't look as good in that range of picks. It's entirely possible CW isn't the only QB that doesn't make it to 1.13, even in a 1 QB league. You can take a closer look at your league draft history, league mates, and their team needs; and try to guess which QBs MIGHT be available at that slot. Then compare that rookie QB to Murray and think about which one you'd rather have. That's one way of approaching it.

For comparison, I got Fields at 2.05 in his rookie year and last year AR went at 1.07 and the next QB's were Young at 2.08 then Stroud at 2.10

[Adam_172]

On value Murray is worth the 1.13. The downside is if you are still rebuilding, he will likely hurt next year's draft spot.

This is what I'm thinking, I think the value is there but atm I wouldn't be rolling out a QB so a #9 place finish could easily turn in to a #6 place finish which is the worst place to be - neither rebuilding nor challenging.

[Mtt33]

Piling on the value is pretty good but if you don’t think you have any real chance to compete just trot out no qb and tank to a top 3 pick..

[Adam_172]

Piling on the value is pretty good but if you don’t think you have any real chance to compete just trot out no qb and tank to a top 3 pick..

Exactly what i'm debating.

On that note, I've done NO research for 2025. How is that class looking? Any MHJ clones or other generational talents that should make me want to tank next year?

[BigBawseRoss]

if you arent competing it doesnt benefit you to have a starting qb. oops all my guys lost their job nothing i can do about that. id prob keep building thru the draft and worry about qb last. ive made titles with some really wild options in 1qb leagues. heck last year you could have started minshew and then flacco and won it all lol

[Mtt33]

Piling on the value is pretty good but if you don’t think you have any real chance to compete just trot out no qb and tank to a top 3 pick..

Exactly what i'm debating.

On that note, I've done NO research for 2025. How is that class looking? Any MHJ clones or other generational talents that should make me want to tank next year?

No but the rb class is supposed to be strong, always better to have a higher pick, could trade it if needed.