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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:15 pm

Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:53 am
Jrblaha wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:29 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:03 am

So his gameday weight is likely to be in the mid 230s. He’s already built pretty well. He’s going to end up on someone else’s team.
Isn’t this almost identical height/weight to LaPorta at the combine?
Their tape looks similar in a lot of ways as receivers too. I saw (see) LaPorta as much better in contested catch situations and has more reliable hands. LaPorta is (was) hands down a better blocker, both in attitude and technique.

Those don’t sound like big differences, but LaPorta was able to line up inline credibly, which I question with Bowers. We’ll see how Bowers does in close quarters and securing the catch.
I like Bowers, but he's not this unicorn that some claim. He's a talented, slightly undersized TE. He's not a generational prospect, or the greatest TE prospect of all time or any of that stuff.

I'm just glad he measured in at a respectable size. I was concerned he was 6 ft 2, 235 at the combine, or something like that.
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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby KingsKing » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:41 pm

Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:03 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:20 am Brock Bowers. 6 ft 3, 243.

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/statu ... 1162544212
He’s already built pretty well.
You sure ? He looks like he can stand to get a fair bit (20lbs) bigger at least
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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:11 pm

Gronk was 6'6" 258 JESUS.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby Bronco Billy » Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:41 pm

KingsKing wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:41 pm
Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:03 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:20 am Brock Bowers. 6 ft 3, 243.

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/statu ... 1162544212
He’s already built pretty well.
You sure ? He looks like he can stand to get a fair bit (20lbs) bigger at least
:lol:

You think he’s going to weigh 5 lbs more than Gronkowski despite being 3” shorter?

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby KingsKing » Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:06 pm

Gronk was well into the 270’s , might have been 258 in his draft year coming off a back surgery .

I think we can all agree bowers who won’t be running or working out today is water loaded and probably closer to 230 .

Also you think that’s what a well built TE looks like ?

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:10 pm

KingsKing wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:06 pm Gronk was well into the 270’s , might have been 258 in his draft year coming off a back surgery .

I think we can all agree bowers who won’t be running or working out today is water loaded and probably closer to 230 .

Also you think that’s what a well built TE looks like ?
Exactly. Do we need more proof that players play at a significantly lighter weight?

I'd guess Bowers plays around 230. Maybe less.

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:04 pm

I'd like to see Bowers more jacked, but that doesn't always equal elite WR/TE.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby Bronco Billy » Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:09 pm

KingsKing wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:06 pm Gronk was well into the 270’s , might have been 258 in his draft year coming off a back surgery .

I think we can all agree bowers who won’t be running or working out today is water loaded and probably closer to 230 .

Also you think that’s what a well built TE looks like ?
Post the other picture - you know, the one with them standing side by side. Their builds are very similar other than Bowers being smaller.

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:12 pm

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D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby KingsKing » Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:30 pm

Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:09 pm
KingsKing wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:06 pm Gronk was well into the 270’s , might have been 258 in his draft year coming off a back surgery .

I think we can all agree bowers who won’t be running or working out today is water loaded and probably closer to 230 .

Also you think that’s what a well built TE looks like ?
Post the other picture - you know, the one with them standing side by side. Their builds are very similar other than Bowers being smaller.
Right , one is mid 30’s and hasn’t played in 3 years and the other is 22 and been working out for months preparing for this day . Totally the same.

Bowers might be an amazing athlete and football player and size and measurements isn’t everything but he looks small and his upper body in particular looks underdeveloped.

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby KingsKing » Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:33 pm

Comparing him to gronk physically is a mistake , his best comps are Engram and Aaron Hernandez imo .

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby Bronco Billy » Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:37 pm

KingsKing wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:30 pm
Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:09 pm
KingsKing wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:06 pm Gronk was well into the 270’s , might have been 258 in his draft year coming off a back surgery .

I think we can all agree bowers who won’t be running or working out today is water loaded and probably closer to 230 .

Also you think that’s what a well built TE looks like ?
Post the other picture - you know, the one with them standing side by side. Their builds are very similar other than Bowers being smaller.
Right , one is mid 30’s and hasn’t played in 3 years and the other is 22 and been working out for months preparing for this day . Totally the same.

Bowers might be an amazing athlete and football player and size and measurements isn’t everything but he looks small and his upper body in particular looks underdeveloped.
So you think Gronk is sitting on the couch eating chips and swilling PBR?

But hey, whatever you need to do to keep pimping Bowers.

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby Bronco Billy » Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:37 pm

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby KingsKing » Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:45 pm

Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:37 pm
KingsKing wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:30 pm
Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:09 pm

Post the other picture - you know, the one with them standing side by side. Their builds are very similar other than Bowers being smaller.
Right , one is mid 30’s and hasn’t played in 3 years and the other is 22 and been working out for months preparing for this day . Totally the same.

Bowers might be an amazing athlete and football player and size and measurements isn’t everything but he looks small and his upper body in particular looks underdeveloped.
So you think Gronk is sitting on the couch eating chips and swilling PBR?

But hey, whatever you need to do to keep pimping Bowers.
I haven’t pumped Bowers once in this thread , I’m saying he looks small and undersized and could use some more time in the weight room , you said he looks well built and claimed he has a similar body type to gronk . I pointed out he doesn’t and this is a gronk 3 years removed from football . When gronk retired for a half season and then decided to make a return mid season he said he needed time to add weight back on cause he lost 25 pounds , and that was only in half a season away from football . Gronk played at 270 ish , he probably weighs 235-240 now , bowers is probably in the 225-235 range on game days .

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Re: 2024 Combine

Postby MacDaddy123 » Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:47 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:11 pm Gronk was 6'6" 258 JESUS.
6'6" 265


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