All Things Bears

[mild]

Looks like it might be a draft haul for the #1 pick and the Bears stick with Fields...

"Chicago putting first overall pick up for sale? Thu Feb 8, 01:33 PM

Chicago Bears QB Justin Fields could be staying put after all, as multiple teams have reportedly approached the Bears about trading up for the No. 1 overall selection in the 2024 NFL Draft. According to sources, Chicago appears to be 'leaning toward' moving the pick."

0% of any news right now is dependable.

I can give you one piece of 100% completely accurate news.

DJ Moore is firmly on the record that the Bears should build around Fields.

Here's him saying exactly that from radio row today.

Could be interesting if what he's sharing is a common sentiment amongst the Bears locker room.

Not that players get much of a say in their GM's decisions, and not that these situations are analogous - but we saw the Raiders star players all firmly support the hiring of Antonio Pierce as their permanent HC a couple weeks ago. They didn't "make" the decision, but no doubt that they helped cement it as the choice.

[wickerkat1212]

Hester into the HOF is so cool. The GOAT at kick and punt-return, IMO. Was so much fun to watch.

[81-]

Looks like it might be a draft haul for the #1 pick and the Bears stick with Fields...

"Chicago putting first overall pick up for sale? Thu Feb 8, 01:33 PM

Chicago Bears QB Justin Fields could be staying put after all, as multiple teams have reportedly approached the Bears about trading up for the No. 1 overall selection in the 2024 NFL Draft. According to sources, Chicago appears to be 'leaning toward' moving the pick."

0% of any news right now is dependable.

I can give you one piece of 100% completely accurate news.

DJ Moore is firmly on the record that the Bears should build around Fields.

Here's him saying exactly that from radio row today.

Could be interesting if what he's sharing is a common sentiment amongst the Bears locker room.

Not that players get much of a say in their GM's decisions, and not that these situations are analogous - but we saw the Raiders star players all firmly support the hiring of Antonio Pierce as their permanent HC a couple weeks ago. They didn't "make" the decision, but no doubt that they helped cement it as the choice.

He's been saying that for a while. Knet has as well, but not quite as directly

[FantasyFreak]

I've been on the Caleb isn't going to Chicago train for a while, as a possibility. Especially the Washington trade.

DJ Moore and Cole Kmet aren't GM's, and if their brass are dumb enough to buy into the idea Fields is the guy, the majority of Bears fans will get what they want, more heartache, and blaming everybody but the QB for years, in mediocrity and lack of results.

Fields isn't a top end NFL QB, and never will be. I don't understand how anybody can still argue it, but there are plenty out there. The ideal move, as I've said, would to be trade back to 2, take a QB, after a massive haul, and move Fields for whatever you can get from some desperate team.

That's IF the Bears view Maye or whoever as a franchise QB. They could move back 1 spot and get quite a bit, I think. Depends on their evaluations, but Caleb isn't a perfect prospect, and there is risk there.

Fields shouldn't even be a debate for the Bears to keep, regardless of what these player/scouts say.

[Tvols]

I've been on the Caleb isn't going to Chicago train for a while, as a possibility. Especially the Washington trade.

DJ Moore and Cole Kmet aren't GM's, and if their brass are dumb enough to buy into the idea Fields is the guy, the majority of Bears fans will get what they want, more heartache, and blaming everybody but the QB for years, in mediocrity and lack of results.

Fields isn't a top end NFL QB, and never will be. I don't understand how anybody can still argue it, but there are plenty out there. The ideal move, as I've said, would to be trade back to 2, take a QB, after a massive haul, and move Fields for whatever you can get from some desperate team.

That's IF the Bears view Maye or whoever as a franchise QB. They could move back 1 spot and get quite a bit, I think. Depends on their evaluations, but Caleb isn't a perfect prospect, and there is risk there.

Fields shouldn't even be a debate for the Bears to keep, regardless of what these player/scouts say.

agreed and well said, As i have said before only way the Bears can screw this up is not taking a qb.

[81-]

I've been on the Caleb isn't going to Chicago train for a while, as a possibility. Especially the Washington trade.

DJ Moore and Cole Kmet aren't GM's, and if their brass are dumb enough to buy into the idea Fields is the guy, the majority of Bears fans will get what they want, more heartache, and blaming everybody but the QB for years, in mediocrity and lack of results.

Fields isn't a top end NFL QB, and never will be. I don't understand how anybody can still argue it, but there are plenty out there. The ideal move, as I've said, would to be trade back to 2, take a QB, after a massive haul, and move Fields for whatever you can get from some desperate team.

That's IF the Bears view Maye or whoever as a franchise QB. They could move back 1 spot and get quite a bit, I think. Depends on their evaluations, but Caleb isn't a perfect prospect, and there is risk there.

Fields shouldn't even be a debate for the Bears to keep, regardless of what these player/scouts say.

The thing with fields is... He is a good egg, wants to be great, and the fans love him. I get it. I'm in that boat. Sucks that he didn't quite pan out.

[NWABCS]

I've been on the Caleb isn't going to Chicago train for a while, as a possibility. Especially the Washington trade.

DJ Moore and Cole Kmet aren't GM's, and if their brass are dumb enough to buy into the idea Fields is the guy, the majority of Bears fans will get what they want, more heartache, and blaming everybody but the QB for years, in mediocrity and lack of results.

Fields isn't a top end NFL QB, and never will be. I don't understand how anybody can still argue it, but there are plenty out there. The ideal move, as I've said, would to be trade back to 2, take a QB, after a massive haul, and move Fields for whatever you can get from some desperate team.

That's IF the Bears view Maye or whoever as a franchise QB. They could move back 1 spot and get quite a bit, I think. Depends on their evaluations, but Caleb isn't a perfect prospect, and there is risk there.

Fields shouldn't even be a debate for the Bears to keep, regardless of what these player/scouts say.

agreed and well said, As i have said before only way the Bears can screw this up is not taking a qb.

Is there a realistic possibility that happens? The Bears completely having faith in Justin Fields, trading the 1st, not taking a QB, and really building around Fields?

Is there a shot they try and do what Houston did last year? Use their first and trade up? I mean I don't think the Bears are going to have two picks in the top 3 on draft night but... is that any less unlikely than the Bears going all in on Fields?

"And with the the 9th pick of the first round, the Chicago Bears select.. JJ McCarthy..."

[Bronco Billy]

I've been on the Caleb isn't going to Chicago train for a while, as a possibility. Especially the Washington trade.

DJ Moore and Cole Kmet aren't GM's, and if their brass are dumb enough to buy into the idea Fields is the guy, the majority of Bears fans will get what they want, more heartache, and blaming everybody but the QB for years, in mediocrity and lack of results.

Fields isn't a top end NFL QB, and never will be. I don't understand how anybody can still argue it, but there are plenty out there. The ideal move, as I've said, would to be trade back to 2, take a QB, after a massive haul, and move Fields for whatever you can get from some desperate team.

That's IF the Bears view Maye or whoever as a franchise QB. They could move back 1 spot and get quite a bit, I think. Depends on their evaluations, but Caleb isn't a perfect prospect, and there is risk there.

Fields shouldn't even be a debate for the Bears to keep, regardless of what these player/scouts say.

agreed and well said, As i have said before only way the Bears can screw this up is not taking a qb.

Is there a realistic possibility that happens? The Bears completely having faith in Justin Fields, trading the 1st, not taking a QB, and really building around Fields?

Is there a shot they try and do what Houston did last year? Use their first and trade up? I mean I don't think the Bears are going to have two picks in the top 3 on draft night but... is that any less unlikely than the Bears going all in on Fields?

"And with the the 9th pick of the first round, the Chicago Bears select.. JJ McCarthy..."

As a GB fan, the bolded would not make me happy in the least. After watching a lot of film on JJM I’m starting to develop a man crush on him. He’s got some refining to do yet but he’s got the necessary tools in his arsenal and his QB IQ is incredibly high. I hate saying this so early but I see a lot of Jordan Love in his game.

[wickerkat1212]

I think they take Williams. It's the kind of move that is easy to defend, and Poles/Flus can buy themselves AT LEAST three years. If CW doesn't work out, who is going to blame them? Nobody. Unless they really work hard to NOT support him. Which would be stupid. They've got a good core. Money to chase guys in FA. IF they take WR/LT/DE at #9 that will also be a defendable pick. It's hard to screw this up if they take CW. If they stick with Fields and it doesn't work out—passing on Mahomes for Trubisky, passing on Stroud, passing on CW—they're all gone. They're taking CW and moving Fields. 99% sure of that.

[wickerkat1212]

The 1% is if they get a CRAZY offer for the #1—something like three 1sts, other picks, and some elite players as well. IDK what that package might be, but that's the only way I see them moving out. And I honestly think if they do that they have to get one of Harrison, Nabers, or Odunze. If they take that, they have to move up to get Harrison IMO and really need to hammer the OFF—elite LT, elite C, elite WRs and a couple of them, maybe even Bowers at TE, etc. I just don't see it.

[slaughterrt]

Hey wickerkat, I tried PMing you but dunno if you got it.

[wickerkat1212]

Hey wickerkat, I tried PMing you but dunno if you got it.

Thanks, man. Replied.

[DJB]

I've been on the Caleb isn't going to Chicago train for a while, as a possibility. Especially the Washington trade.

DJ Moore and Cole Kmet aren't GM's, and if their brass are dumb enough to buy into the idea Fields is the guy, the majority of Bears fans will get what they want, more heartache, and blaming everybody but the QB for years, in mediocrity and lack of results.

Fields isn't a top end NFL QB, and never will be. I don't understand how anybody can still argue it, but there are plenty out there. The ideal move, as I've said, would to be trade back to 2, take a QB, after a massive haul, and move Fields for whatever you can get from some desperate team.

That's IF the Bears view Maye or whoever as a franchise QB. They could move back 1 spot and get quite a bit, I think. Depends on their evaluations, but Caleb isn't a perfect prospect, and there is risk there.

Fields shouldn't even be a debate for the Bears to keep, regardless of what these player/scouts say.

I would think it would be tough to convince an owner to both dump Fields and trade from the top spot when all we’ve heard is that Caleb is generational. (I don’t agree but alas)

Because if you trade out of the top spot and your guy busts or Caleb turns out to be better you are basically going to be fired because if that .

Now if you stick at 1 and Caleb busts well at least you went with the consensus guy and you might survive.

In the end management and GM’s want to survive and have long careers. They don’t want to really risk it even though the value is there to do so

[wickerkat1212]

I've been on the Caleb isn't going to Chicago train for a while, as a possibility. Especially the Washington trade.

DJ Moore and Cole Kmet aren't GM's, and if their brass are dumb enough to buy into the idea Fields is the guy, the majority of Bears fans will get what they want, more heartache, and blaming everybody but the QB for years, in mediocrity and lack of results.

Fields isn't a top end NFL QB, and never will be. I don't understand how anybody can still argue it, but there are plenty out there. The ideal move, as I've said, would to be trade back to 2, take a QB, after a massive haul, and move Fields for whatever you can get from some desperate team.

That's IF the Bears view Maye or whoever as a franchise QB. They could move back 1 spot and get quite a bit, I think. Depends on their evaluations, but Caleb isn't a perfect prospect, and there is risk there.

Fields shouldn't even be a debate for the Bears to keep, regardless of what these player/scouts say.

I would think it would be tough to convince an owner to both dump Fields and trade from the top spot when all we’ve heard is that Caleb is generational. (I don’t agree but alas)

Because if you trade out of the top spot and your guy busts or Caleb turns out to be better you are basically going to be fired because if that .

Now if you stick at 1 and Caleb busts well at least you went with the consensus guy and you might survive.

In the end management and GM’s want to survive and have long careers. They don’t want to really risk it even though the value is there to do so

This. Exactly. Nobody is going to fire management/coaching if you draft Williams and he busts. He's the consensus. Stick with Fields and pass on CW and he blows up, Fields struggles or fails? You're done. Same scenario if you trade down to take Maye/Daniels and it doesn't work out. This resets the clock, get him in at a reasonable price, and slots him in with a MUCH improved OFF/DEF.

[Hottoddies]

I've been on the Caleb isn't going to Chicago train for a while, as a possibility. Especially the Washington trade.

DJ Moore and Cole Kmet aren't GM's, and if their brass are dumb enough to buy into the idea Fields is the guy, the majority of Bears fans will get what they want, more heartache, and blaming everybody but the QB for years, in mediocrity and lack of results.

Fields isn't a top end NFL QB, and never will be. I don't understand how anybody can still argue it, but there are plenty out there. The ideal move, as I've said, would to be trade back to 2, take a QB, after a massive haul, and move Fields for whatever you can get from some desperate team.

That's IF the Bears view Maye or whoever as a franchise QB. They could move back 1 spot and get quite a bit, I think. Depends on their evaluations, but Caleb isn't a perfect prospect, and there is risk there.

Fields shouldn't even be a debate for the Bears to keep, regardless of what these player/scouts say.

I would think it would be tough to convince an owner to both dump Fields and trade from the top spot when all we’ve heard is that Caleb is generational. (I don’t agree but alas)

Because if you trade out of the top spot and your guy busts or Caleb turns out to be better you are basically going to be fired because if that .

Now if you stick at 1 and Caleb busts well at least you went with the consensus guy and you might survive.

In the end management and GM’s want to survive and have long careers. They don’t want to really risk it even though the value is there to do so

This. Exactly. Nobody is going to fire management/coaching if you draft Williams and he busts. He's the consensus. Stick with Fields and pass on CW and he blows up, Fields struggles or fails? You're done. Same scenario if you trade down to take Maye/Daniels and it doesn't work out. This resets the clock, get him in at a reasonable price, and slots him in with a MUCH improved OFF/DEF.

I don't want to say that taking a QB with the first pick is a bad idea but that it just isn't the security blanket that you think it is; 5 of the last 7 head coaches that took a QB with the overall 1st pick lost their job that year.