What would you offer for G Wilson?

[Randomguess]

12 man league, PPR, 1 QB, no TE premium. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex.
G Wilson is a player I would like but do not need. The other owner and I have had talks in the past about making a deal. Overall, he is looking for a better QB and would like a decent WR or pick in return for Wilson. I'm going to be adding plenty of good WRs in the draft, so this move isn't necessary, but I think Wilson is going to explode next season. Just my gut feeling.

My team:
QB: Lawrence, Minshew
RB: Bijan, Etienne, R White, Spears, Z White, Spiller, Abinakanda
WR: Lamb, D Smith, J Williams, Burks, Iosivas, Shakir, T Palmer
TE: Laporta, Muth

2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.05, 1.06, 1.08, 1.10, 4.02

His team:
QB: Stafford, Young, Howell
RB: Gibbs, Pollard, Walker, J Williams, Dillon
WR: Chase, Wilson, Aiyuk, Jeudy, G Davis
TE: Kincaid, Musgrave, Schultz, Goedert, Jordan
2024 picks: 1.09, 3.05, 3.09

If you feel this is not a good idea to pursue, please let me know as well. Thanks

[Gator Sens]

If the other manager is interested in a QB upgrade, would you rather hold Lawrence or move him? If you want to hold him, maybe offer the 1.05 and J. Williams and see if that gets you close. J. Williams closed the season well which gives hope and the 1.05 should land C. Williams in the draft for the other manager. Maybe go as high as the 1.04 in a 1 QB if it gets the job done? Outside of that, I don't see a great option because I don't think moving Smith + a pick the value is there. Smith is already really solid.

[meineymoe]

I was thinking 1.04 and Burks.
Otherwise Lawrence and 1.10 for Wilson plus any of his qbs if you want to grab Caleb or another rookie qb early.

Good luck -oo-

[Randomguess]

If the other manager is interested in a QB upgrade, would you rather hold Lawrence or move him? If you want to hold him, maybe offer the 1.05 and J. Williams and see if that gets you close. J. Williams closed the season well which gives hope and the 1.05 should land C. Williams in the draft for the other manager. Maybe go as high as the 1.04 in a 1 QB if it gets the job done? Outside of that, I don't see a great option because I don't think moving Smith + a pick the value is there. Smith is already really solid.

I'd be fine trading Lawrence away and drafting 2 QBs with the 1.06 and 1.08 or 1.10. Ideally, I'd still like to walk away with MHJ, Nabers, Bowers and Caleb with 4 of my first 5 picks. I'm certainly open to trading the 1.05 or 1.06 + Williams if it lands me Wilson. I really believe AJB could be traded this offseason and Smith would become a real asset. He's already proven he's legit.

[Randomguess]

I was thinking 1.04 and Burks.
Otherwise Lawrence and 1.10 for Wilson plus any of his qbs if you want to grab Caleb or another rookie qb early.

Good luck -oo-

I think those are both fair offers. Thank you

[tstafford]

I was thinking 1.04 and Burks.
Otherwise Lawrence and 1.10 for Wilson plus any of his qbs if you want to grab Caleb or another rookie qb early.

Good luck -oo-

Way light in 1QB IMHO.

[moishetreats]

In a shallow league, I don't think Jameson has much value at all. And I'd be shocked if 1.04 alone is enough to really entice the team that owns G Wilson now. I think you're talking 1.04 + Lawrence (and maybe Jameson, too) to have a chance. And I'd be willing to pay that, as well (and that still might be light).

You can draft or trade for a Lawrence replacement faaaaar easier than getting a young, top-10WR who, you think, is about to explode.

[Randomguess]

In a shallow league, I don't think Jameson has much value at all. And I'd be shocked if 1.04 alone is enough to really entice the team that owns G Wilson now. I think you're talking 1.04 + Lawrence (and maybe Jameson, too) to have a chance. And I'd be willing to pay that, as well (and that still might be light).

You can draft or trade for a Lawrence replacement faaaaar easier than getting a young, top-10WR who, you think, is about to explode.

I don't disagree with you at all. Lawrence, Williams + 1.06 might be a starting point.

[tstafford]

In a shallow league, I don't think Jameson has much value at all. And I'd be shocked if 1.04 alone is enough to really entice the team that owns G Wilson now. I think you're talking 1.04 + Lawrence (and maybe Jameson, too) to have a chance. And I'd be willing to pay that, as well (and that still might be light).

You can draft or trade for a Lawrence replacement faaaaar easier than getting a young, top-10WR who, you think, is about to explode.

And Burks is worse than JAMO, I'd say.

I'm not taking 1.04/T.Law/JAMO for G.Wilson in 1QB. T.Law is a QB2 at this point which has marginal value in 1QB. And I'm getting the WR4 or Bowers with the 1.04 in non-TEP (meh).

[tstafford]

In a shallow league, I don't think Jameson has much value at all. And I'd be shocked if 1.04 alone is enough to really entice the team that owns G Wilson now. I think you're talking 1.04 + Lawrence (and maybe Jameson, too) to have a chance. And I'd be willing to pay that, as well (and that still might be light).

You can draft or trade for a Lawrence replacement faaaaar easier than getting a young, top-10WR who, you think, is about to explode.

I don't disagree with you at all. Lawrence, Williams + 1.06 might be a starting point.

No harm in offering it. You know your league. But if that's the range of what I was willing to pay, I'd hold off until the 1.06 is at max value to increase the odds of this getting any attention.

That said - I think most of what I've read in this thread is undervaluing GW.

[Randomguess]

In a shallow league, I don't think Jameson has much value at all. And I'd be shocked if 1.04 alone is enough to really entice the team that owns G Wilson now. I think you're talking 1.04 + Lawrence (and maybe Jameson, too) to have a chance. And I'd be willing to pay that, as well (and that still might be light).

You can draft or trade for a Lawrence replacement faaaaar easier than getting a young, top-10WR who, you think, is about to explode.

I don't disagree with you at all. Lawrence, Williams + 1.06 might be a starting point.

No harm in offering it. You know your league. But if that's the range of what I was willing to pay, I'd hold off until the 1.06 is at max value to increase the odds of this getting any attention.

That said - I think most of what I've read in this thread is undervaluing GW.

The other owner highly values GW, so you are probably correct.

[killer_of_giants]

with all those picks, "whatever it takes"!

[TheTroll]

with all those picks, "whatever it takes"!

agreed!

[Randomguess]

with all those picks, "whatever it takes"!

Yeah, but what picks would you actually be willing to trade for Wilson?

[grooner]

these offers all seem light to me for Wilson, but I looked at KTC, and wilsons value is inline with them. If the market is this down on Wilson, now is a good time to go out and buy him.

I would be fine with sending the 1.02 for Wilson straight up, and adding small pieces to make it happen (such as burks, Williams etc.).