3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

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3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby mzkp54 » Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:50 am

I’m in the middle of a dynasty, best ball, TE premium ( 2 PPR for TE) superflex start up.

My team so far:
QB- Burrow, Dak
RB- Cook, Pacheco, Warren, Conner
WR- Waddle, DSmith, Deebo
TE- Kincaid
Pick- 2.07
Future- 4 ‘25 1sts, 2 ‘26 1sts, 2 ‘26 2nd

We’re in the 14th round. I traded back several times early on and then ended up moving several startup picks (2 8ths, a 9th, and 11th and 14th) for future picks. It wasn’t my plan but I liked the value at that point in the draft.

Now I have an offer from the guy who took Chase in the first to send the 3 ‘25 1sts I added for Chase. I’d still have my own. Would you make this trade?
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby TheTroll » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:18 am

3 firsts for Chase is pretty fair but only if you are in a complete rebuild...best ball is compelling for sure.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby mzkp54 » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:21 am

TheTroll wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:18 am 3 firsts for Chase is pretty fair but only if you are in a complete rebuild...best ball is compelling for sure.
I’d be adding Chase here
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby CurtisMyFavMartin » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:39 am

Definitely, your team is good but a WR1 would make you a true contenda
Controlled Chaos 12 Team PPR SFLEX~EST. 2015
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX 1SFLEX

2018+2019 CHAMPION
QB Murray/Stafford
RB Bijan, Gibbs, Zeke
WR DJ Moore, Pittman, JSN, Flowers, Addison, Downs, Lazard
TE Hockenson, Schultz, Knox, Irv Smith

4 2024 1sts
3 2024 2nds
2 2025 1sts

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby abloom » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:51 am

With it being bestball I think I'd rather hold the firsts for now.

I haven't really thought about it before, but I think the bestball component lowers what I'd be willing to pay top tier players in pure picks

I no longer need one of those picks to produce chase to make that trade even (unlikely to happen). I just need those picks combined to put up chase numbers every week. That seems more likely to happen.

Assuming roster size is not a constrain I keep the firsts for now.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:56 am

id prob do that you still have 3 firsts the next 2 years and would also have jamarr chase lol
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby The.Big.Spank » Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:53 am

I would make that trade too. I think its a slight underpay
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:31 am

I like the value overall for you based on the number of picks you have and adding a top end, elite asset. If you could counter with two 1sts + Cook or a similar piece and get it done, I like the deal even more.

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby Menace2010 » Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:09 am

I'd snap accept. All 3 could end up late, and they are a year away. Give me the WR2/3 overall in a heartbeat.

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby moishetreats » Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:36 am

I wouldn't overthink this. I'd take Chase pretty easily.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby Anteaters » Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:24 pm

Chase
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:38 pm

Menace2010 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:09 am I'd snap accept. All 3 could end up late, and they are a year away. Give me the WR2/3 overall in a heartbeat.
Do you have any sense on how those picks will play out?
If they're all late—say 9-12, smash accept.
If it's a mix of early, mid, and late——say 4, 8, 12—I'd still accept.
Three early picks say—1, 3, 5—I pass, but reluctantly.

Any sense of those teams? Chase is the guy you want forever. He's elite.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby mzkp54 » Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:50 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:38 pm
Menace2010 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:09 am I'd snap accept. All 3 could end up late, and they are a year away. Give me the WR2/3 overall in a heartbeat.
Do you have any sense on how those picks will play out?
If they're all late—say 9-12, smash accept.
If it's a mix of early, mid, and late——say 4, 8, 12—I'd still accept.
Three early picks say—1, 3, 5—I pass, but reluctantly.

Any sense of those teams? Chase is the guy you want forever. He's elite.
It’s a startup so tough to say. I don’t think any of them will be the worst team. I’d guess 3-9 is the range for all of them.
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:19 pm

mzkp54 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:50 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:38 pm
Menace2010 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:09 am I'd snap accept. All 3 could end up late, and they are a year away. Give me the WR2/3 overall in a heartbeat.
Do you have any sense on how those picks will play out?
If they're all late—say 9-12, smash accept.
If it's a mix of early, mid, and late——say 4, 8, 12—I'd still accept.
Three early picks say—1, 3, 5—I pass, but reluctantly.

Any sense of those teams? Chase is the guy you want forever. He's elite.
It’s a startup so tough to say. I don’t think any of them will be the worst team. I’d guess 3-9 is the range for all of them.
For sure. Was just going to ask if it looked like anyone had blown the draft so far, if those were the picks. Sounds like the consensus here is that it doesn't matter what they are and it could be anything. I say go for it. If it's 1, 2, 3 that will sting, but there's no guarantee that those guys will be better than Chase. If it's more like 3, 6, 9—you can live with that. If it's second half, 6-12 it's a home run IMO. SO, I agree. Go for it. You can always try to counter with two 1sts and one 2nd but there is a risk he'll pull it and just keep Chase. I've seen things like that happen. Your call. Any of the top three WRs are great to have.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 3 ‘25 1sts for Chase? (Startup)

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:20 pm

You could also try two 25 1sts and one 26 1st. IDK.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble


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