Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

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Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby johnnymozart » Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:04 pm

Regardless of your thoughts on Bijan, entertain the thought.

I've got Tua. Don't trust him long-term. Want to have an elite qb in this 12 teamer-- so if I look at a team with both Stroud and Josh Allen and hope to pounce before the draft timing (both are obviously safe from draft changes haha)

My thought is to buy Josh Allen who I think is the bees. If I traded Bijan as my centerpiece (this guys team is a cesspool at RB and the most obvious need) what type of additional assets would you look for in return? A likely mid 2025 1st? He's got the 1.07 this years. One of his primo Wrs too (devonta Smith, Pittman types?)... I just have a real limited experience trading QBs in 1qb, and not trying to short change the guy and low-ball. Just looking for realistic expectations if using Bijan is my starting point
My team/Picks (14 Teamer- .5PPR) Start 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 2-3 WR, 1-2 TE
QB Lamar Jackson, Russ Wilson, Mills
RB A Gibson, Aaron Jones, Damien Harris, Penny IR, D.Pierce, Haskins
WR ARobinson, KAllen, Mike Evans, Sutton, Amon-Ra, TBoyd, GDavis, Dotson, Pierce
TE Mark Andrews, Goedert, LThomas
K Tucker
2023- No Picks
2024- 2, 2

Rebuild Sad Orphan 12 team .5PPR -- Start 1QB, 2-4 WR, 2-4 RB, 1-3 TE

QB. Tua, DJones (IR)
RB Bijan (R), Gibbs (R), J. Conner, TSpears (R), Demercado, J Mason, Z. White
WR Amon-Ra St Brown, Nico Collins, J. Reed (R), R. Shaheed, C.Tillman (R), Osborn, Terrace M, CSamuel, Pierce, Ross
TE Andrews, Ferguson, McBride, Ertz (IR)
DEF- Patriots, Vikings
2024 None
2025 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3
2026 2, 3

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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:24 pm

Unless scoring is very heavily in favor of top end QBs, an early 1st at least in a 1 QB format. Robinson based on age, potential and hype is arguably the top RB in dynasty.

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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby Menace2010 » Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 pm

In a 12 team league, I'd need a young/productive WR on top along the lines you proposed. DJ and Bijan for Allen and Higgins or D. Smith or a top 3 pick (Odunze would be my cutoff honestly).

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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby TheTroll » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:19 am

Keep BR for a QB. The difference between an Allen and a Tua isn’t as great as other positions. Heck you could just offer a mid 1st and net you a top 5 QB
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby tdster17 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:35 am

I echo what the rest are saying. I see the predicament because you are sitting there without a liquid 1st to use, but I would maybe try sending Tua+Spears for Allen straight up. From my circles it seems like Spears is being valued at a late 1st right now... seems like that might be the sweet spot.
Team1 (1QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-2Flex) 10team 0.5 PPR
QB-Hurts, Tua

RB- Mixon, Javonte Williams, Barkley, Breece Hall, J. Cook, Henry, Mattison, R. Johnson, I. Abanikanda, McKinnon, Dobbins

WR- AJ Brown, Jaylen Waddle, Kupp, Metcalf, D. Smith, B. Cooks, G. Davis, E. Moore, J. Reed

TE- Hockenson, Chig Okonkwo

Picks-2024 1.08, 2.04, 3.03, 3.05, 2025 1st, 2026 1st&3rdx2

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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby abloom » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:25 am

Need equivalent of 2+ firsts on top of bijan. Probably a young talented wr and a pick.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby tdster17 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:47 am

abloom wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:25 am Need equivalent of 2+ firsts on top of bijan. Probably a young talented wr and a pick.
In 1 QB? You think?
Team1 (1QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-2Flex) 10team 0.5 PPR
QB-Hurts, Tua

RB- Mixon, Javonte Williams, Barkley, Breece Hall, J. Cook, Henry, Mattison, R. Johnson, I. Abanikanda, McKinnon, Dobbins

WR- AJ Brown, Jaylen Waddle, Kupp, Metcalf, D. Smith, B. Cooks, G. Davis, E. Moore, J. Reed

TE- Hockenson, Chig Okonkwo

Picks-2024 1.08, 2.04, 3.03, 3.05, 2025 1st, 2026 1st&3rdx2

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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby abloom » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:33 am

tdster17 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:47 am
abloom wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:25 am Need equivalent of 2+ firsts on top of bijan. Probably a young talented wr and a pick.
In 1 QB? You think?
Yes, bijan= 3 firsts, Allen = 1 first
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:46 am

no chance in hell i consider this, cant even finish reading the post lol.

ive traded away josh allen and hes been moved again in my 1qb league with no penalty for int and .1 per carry where he is the top scorer.

when i traded him away i sent josh allen, aj dillon, eli moore and i got dak, DK, and a 23 first (ended up 1.10 i believe)

then that guy went into rebuild this year mid season and sent allen for kyler and a first.

wanted to provide some examples of deals in a 1qb where qb is highly valued and these deals are still way light of your idea/proposal
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby Finfansteve » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:03 am

In a one qb I wouldn’t be interested in trading for Allen and pay Bijan for him. Qbs aren’t that valuable in one qb and honestly the wheels might start falling off the bus for the bills and Allen soon. I’d try acquiring a mahomes or stroud instead if you feel you needed a different qb than tua and not a guy who already has a lot of wear and tear on him

Just my two cents.

Now if you can acquire him not using Bijan, Gibbs or another highly valued piece then that’s another story but I think you’re fine with tua and Bijan in one qb
Qb: Hurts, geno Smith
Rb: JT, Gibbs, Montgomery, Roschon, Z. White, Ty Chandler
Wr: AJB, JJ, Chase, waddle, G Wilson
TE: Pitts, Kincaid, Likely, Njoku

2024 1.01, 1.04, 1.05
10 team
9 players kept yearly
Non PPR
Not super flex
Start 1/1/2/1/2 flex
1 point per first down
All tds 6 points

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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby EWV1 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:20 pm

I agree with FinFan - go for Stroud but don't trade Bijan. If the Tua & Spears proposal doesn't work, what does everyone think of considering trading Andrews or McBride? Too much?

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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby tdster17 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:15 pm

abloom wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:33 am
tdster17 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:47 am
abloom wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:25 am Need equivalent of 2+ firsts on top of bijan. Probably a young talented wr and a pick.
In 1 QB? You think?
Yes, bijan= 3 firsts, Allen = 1 first
Ahhh, the way I read your original post it sounded like you'd need 2+ firsts on top of Bijan to get Allen. Was very confused
Team1 (1QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-2Flex) 10team 0.5 PPR
QB-Hurts, Tua

RB- Mixon, Javonte Williams, Barkley, Breece Hall, J. Cook, Henry, Mattison, R. Johnson, I. Abanikanda, McKinnon, Dobbins

WR- AJ Brown, Jaylen Waddle, Kupp, Metcalf, D. Smith, B. Cooks, G. Davis, E. Moore, J. Reed

TE- Hockenson, Chig Okonkwo

Picks-2024 1.08, 2.04, 3.03, 3.05, 2025 1st, 2026 1st&3rdx2

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Re: Say you knew you wanted to upgrade your QB in a 1qb and wanted to use bijan as the bait

Postby abloom » Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:28 am

tdster17 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:15 pm
abloom wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:33 am
tdster17 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:47 am

In 1 QB? You think?
Yes, bijan= 3 firsts, Allen = 1 first
Ahhh, the way I read your original post it sounded like you'd need 2+ firsts on top of Bijan to get Allen. Was very confused
Yup definitely screwed that up lol. No clue how I said bijan there and not Allen :D
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07


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