Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

[murphysxm]

Sure sounds like Mayo just tipped the Patriots going QB at 1.03.

https://x.com/mikekadlick/status/174775 ... 74219?s=20

Big welp to that young man and his year one chances.

He gave a non-answer. Could just as easily be MHJ. If anything, the answer he gave points to MHJ. We're going to draft "the best player for a position that's very important". He didn't say 3rd best [QB]. He said the best player at his position.

We're both choosing to read it slightly different ways and that's ok. He didn't say the best player meaning the top prospect imo (because how can you be certain when you're at 3?) - I took it as "the best (available) player for a position that's very important".

For me it's the emphasis he puts on "a position that's very important" before saying "you put the pieces together".

As if he thinks it's obvious what that should mean. To me: the wider NFL landscape agrees that whilst an elite WR is a very nice thing to have, the most important position in the sport is still QB.

I guess we'll just have to wait to find out.

To me he implied none of this. He never said a specific position. He basically said BPA. All positions are very important when your team has so many holes

[TheTroll]

He gave a non-answer. Could just as easily be MHJ. If anything, the answer he gave points to MHJ. We're going to draft "the best player for a position that's very important". He didn't say 3rd best [QB]. He said the best player at his position.

We're both choosing to read it slightly different ways and that's ok. He didn't say the best player meaning the top prospect imo (because how can you be certain when you're at 3?) - I took it as "the best (available) player for a position that's very important".

For me it's the emphasis he puts on "a position that's very important" before saying "you put the pieces together".

As if he thinks it's obvious what that should mean. To me: the wider NFL landscape agrees that whilst an elite WR is a very nice thing to have, the most important position in the sport is still QB.

I guess we'll just have to wait to find out.

To me he implied none of this. He never said a specific position. He basically said BPA. All positions are very important when your team has so many holes

Yep, coach speak. Obviously who they draft at 1.03 they would feel that position is an important area of need. I see this NFL draft as one of the more unpredictable ones in whole.

[frerichs5]

Daniel Jeremiah’s 1st mock draft:

1.01 QB Caleb Williams - Bears
1.02 QB Drake Maye - Commanders
1.03 QB Jayden Daniels - Patriots
1.04 WR Marvin Harrison - Cardinals
1.05 WR Rome Odunze - Chargers
1.06 WR Malik Nabers - Giants
1.14 QB Bo Nix - Saints
1.15 TE Brock Bowers - Colts
1.21 WR Brian Thomas - Dolphins
1.29 WR Devontez Walker - Chiefs
1.32 WR Troy Franklin - Ravens

[YouMightDieTryin]

Don't do that to me.
Odunze going where I want Nabers to be would make the 1.2 slightly harder.
Bowers isn't lasting until 15.
&
Tez won't stay under the radar long if he goes to KC. I'm ok with him squeaking into the top 10.

Is it April yet?

[Go Bucks]

New England has a huge talent problem on offense. They simply lack playmakers and explosiveness, on top of a QB. If they're not sold on Daniels, I think it makes sense for them to take Harrison.

I'm not sure what the state of their OL is, but Fashanu could make sense too.

With such a terrible roster, trading down from 1.03 to accumulate more picks has to be in consideration for New England.

[Cameron Giles]

Daniel Jeremiah’s 1st mock draft:

1.01 QB Caleb Williams - Bears
1.02 QB Drake Maye - Commanders
1.03 QB Jayden Daniels - Patriots
1.04 WR Marvin Harrison - Cardinals
1.05 WR Rome Odunze - Chargers
1.06 WR Malik Nabers - Giants
1.14 QB Bo Nix - Saints
1.15 TE Brock Bowers - Colts
1.21 WR Brian Thomas - Dolphins
1.29 WR Devontez Walker - Chiefs
1.32 WR Troy Franklin - Ravens

Seems like outside of Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze, Brian Thomas Jr is the most firm first round WR.

[tstafford]

Daniel Jeremiah’s 1st mock draft:

1.01 QB Caleb Williams - Bears
1.02 QB Drake Maye - Commanders
1.03 QB Jayden Daniels - Patriots
1.04 WR Marvin Harrison - Cardinals
1.05 WR Rome Odunze - Chargers
1.06 WR Malik Nabers - Giants
1.14 QB Bo Nix - Saints
1.15 TE Brock Bowers - Colts
1.21 WR Brian Thomas - Dolphins
1.29 WR Devontez Walker - Chiefs
1.32 WR Troy Franklin - Ravens

Seems like outside of Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze, Brian Thomas Jr is the most firm first round WR.

Seems like it. Combine and pro days might shift that. If someone surprises with a fast time (Coleman?) I could see a big bump.

[TheTroll]

Daniel Jeremiah’s 1st mock draft:

1.01 QB Caleb Williams - Bears
1.02 QB Drake Maye - Commanders
1.03 QB Jayden Daniels - Patriots
1.04 WR Marvin Harrison - Cardinals
1.05 WR Rome Odunze - Chargers
1.06 WR Malik Nabers - Giants
1.14 QB Bo Nix - Saints
1.15 TE Brock Bowers - Colts
1.21 WR Brian Thomas - Dolphins
1.29 WR Devontez Walker - Chiefs
1.32 WR Troy Franklin - Ravens

Seems like outside of Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze, Brian Thomas Jr is the most firm first round WR.

Seems like it. Combine and pro days might shift that. If someone surprises with a fast time (Coleman?) I could see a big bump.

Thomas is only hampered because he played next to Nabers. He is a solid asset and should be drafted in the back 3rd of the first round of the NFL draft.

[MacDaddy123]

Daniel Jeremiah’s 1st mock draft:

1.01 QB Caleb Williams - Bears
1.02 QB Drake Maye - Commanders
1.03 QB Jayden Daniels - Patriots
1.04 WR Marvin Harrison - Cardinals
1.05 WR Rome Odunze - Chargers
1.06 WR Malik Nabers - Giants
1.14 QB Bo Nix - Saints
1.15 TE Brock Bowers - Colts
1.21 WR Brian Thomas - Dolphins
1.29 WR Devontez Walker - Chiefs
1.32 WR Troy Franklin - Ravens

Damn, wouldn't that be a shame for the Chargers, to pass on Nabers for Odunze 1 year after drafting QJ over Addison/Flowers.

Chargers gonna Charger.

[bcap88]

What’s the most do you offer to move up from 1.03 to 1.01 in a 1 qb league

1.02 is taking Caleb, he’s already declared that so it’s prettt much nabers/bowers for me if 1.02 throws a curveball and takes nabers

[DJB]

What’s the most do you offer to move up from 1.03 to 1.01 in a 1 qb league

1.02 is taking Caleb, he’s already declared that so it’s prettt much nabers/bowers for me if 1.02 throws a curveball and takes nabers

I would sit at 1.03 and take whichever of MHJ or Nabers falls.

This is an ideal scenario for you knowing Caleb is going 1.02

[tstafford]

What’s the most do you offer to move up from 1.03 to 1.01 in a 1 qb league

1.02 is taking Caleb, he’s already declared that so it’s prettt much nabers/bowers for me if 1.02 throws a curveball and takes nabers

Questionable use of the 1.02 in 1QB for sure.

You know your league, but if I was the manager holding the 1.01 you wouldn't be able to convince me that the 1.03 was really going to be Nabers. I wouldn't trust that CW is going 1.02 because that is such a bad move. I'd insist you paid me the full price to move from the 1.03 up to 1.01. And at that point you've overpaid because there's at least a chance CW goes 1.02! If you believe that CW is going 1.02, then the 1.03 is the place to stay.

[TheTroll]

What’s the most do you offer to move up from 1.03 to 1.01 in a 1 qb league

1.02 is taking Caleb, he’s already declared that so it’s prettt much nabers/bowers for me if 1.02 throws a curveball and takes nabers

Questionable use of the 1.02 in 1QB for sure.

You know your league, but if I was the manager holding the 1.01 you wouldn't be able to convince me that the 1.03 was really going to be Nabers. I wouldn't trust that CW is going 1.02 because that is such a bad move. I'd insist you paid me the full price to move from the 1.03 up to 1.01. And at that point you've overpaid because there's at least a chance CW goes 1.02! If you believe that CW is going 1.02, then the 1.03 is the place to stay.

AB-SCO_LUTE_LEY NOT! If some joker takes CW at 1.02 in a 1QB then stick at 1.03 however i wouldn't trust that at all... 1.05/1.06 for a QB maybe. If you think 1.02 is 100% desiring CW, then i would trade him 1.03 + something small and he will benefit, still get his guy.

[bcap88]

What’s the most do you offer to move up from 1.03 to 1.01 in a 1 qb league

1.02 is taking Caleb, he’s already declared that so it’s prettt much nabers/bowers for me if 1.02 throws a curveball and takes nabers

Questionable use of the 1.02 in 1QB for sure.

You know your league, but if I was the manager holding the 1.01 you wouldn't be able to convince me that the 1.03 was really going to be Nabers. I wouldn't trust that CW is going 1.02 because that is such a bad move. I'd insist you paid me the full price to move from the 1.03 up to 1.01. And at that point you've overpaid because there's at least a chance CW goes 1.02! If you believe that CW is going 1.02, then the 1.03 is the place to stay.

AB-SCO_LUTE_LEY NOT! If some joker takes CW at 1.02 in a 1QB then stick at 1.03 however i wouldn't trust that at all... 1.05/1.06 for a QB maybe. If you think 1.02 is 100% desiring CW, then i would trade him 1.03 + something small and he will benefit, still get his guy.

It’s a contender team with 1.02(from another team) and 1.10

Person has chase,waddle,rice as their main wr
With qb situation of Howell,lance and cousins

6 pt td

Same guy has been chasing the qb dragon since inception so I’m fairly confident 1.02 goes CW

[tstafford]

What’s the most do you offer to move up from 1.03 to 1.01 in a 1 qb league

1.02 is taking Caleb, he’s already declared that so it’s prettt much nabers/bowers for me if 1.02 throws a curveball and takes nabers

Questionable use of the 1.02 in 1QB for sure.

You know your league, but if I was the manager holding the 1.01 you wouldn't be able to convince me that the 1.03 was really going to be Nabers. I wouldn't trust that CW is going 1.02 because that is such a bad move. I'd insist you paid me the full price to move from the 1.03 up to 1.01. And at that point you've overpaid because there's at least a chance CW goes 1.02! If you believe that CW is going 1.02, then the 1.03 is the place to stay.

AB-SCO_LUTE_LEY NOT! If some joker takes CW at 1.02 in a 1QB then stick at 1.03 however i wouldn't trust that at all... 1.05/1.06 for a QB maybe. If you think 1.02 is 100% desiring CW, then i would trade him 1.03 + something small and he will benefit, still get his guy.

But if you were sitting at 1.01 would you believe that? I wouldn't. There's no way I'm taking the 1.03 plus "something small", moving down and absorbing the risk. I'd make you pay full boat such that I felt completely compensated if the 1.03 turns in to the WR3 (Odunze?). And if Nabers did fall to me all the better.