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Re: Odunze Thread

Postby tstafford » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:11 am

TheTroll wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:49 pm
MacDaddy123 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:46 pm I like Odunze s the WR3 in this class, but I know others that disagree, and have him lower.
I think Odunze/Bowers are interchangeable, with Odunze ahead in non-TEP leagues, and Bowers ahead in TEP leagues.

I can't see Odunze drop any further than 1.07 in 12 team SF rookie drafts, but a lot can change in 3 months.

I feel like Nabers is much closer to MHJ than he is to Odunze.
Gladly take Odunze at 1.07 in SF. Tops of tier 2
Same here. In non-TEP leagues I don't think he's dropping to 1.07. Combine and Draft will impact things. But I'm having a hard time seeing a RB crack the top-6 in SF so it would have to be another WR to join the mix. Worthy?

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Re: Odunze Thread

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:13 am

tstafford wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:11 am
TheTroll wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:49 pm
MacDaddy123 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:46 pm I like Odunze s the WR3 in this class, but I know others that disagree, and have him lower.
I think Odunze/Bowers are interchangeable, with Odunze ahead in non-TEP leagues, and Bowers ahead in TEP leagues.

I can't see Odunze drop any further than 1.07 in 12 team SF rookie drafts, but a lot can change in 3 months.

I feel like Nabers is much closer to MHJ than he is to Odunze.
Gladly take Odunze at 1.07 in SF. Tops of tier 2
Same here. In non-TEP leagues I don't think he's dropping to 1.07. Combine and Draft will impact things. But I'm having a hard time seeing a RB crack the top-6 in SF so it would have to be another WR to join the mix. Worthy?
My guess would be Keon Coleman goes mid-late 1st to a good situation and gets pumped up a few boards. It only takes 1 person to "reach" for a player and Coleman has the upside, even if he's not even my WR4 right now. Could see it being Worthy as well. I need to watch more of him still

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Re: Odunze Thread

Postby tstafford » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:56 am

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:13 am
tstafford wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:11 am
TheTroll wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:49 pm

Gladly take Odunze at 1.07 in SF. Tops of tier 2
Same here. In non-TEP leagues I don't think he's dropping to 1.07. Combine and Draft will impact things. But I'm having a hard time seeing a RB crack the top-6 in SF so it would have to be another WR to join the mix. Worthy?
My guess would be Keon Coleman goes mid-late 1st to a good situation and gets pumped up a few boards. It only takes 1 person to "reach" for a player and Coleman has the upside, even if he's not even my WR4 right now. Could see it being Worthy as well. I need to watch more of him still
For sure it will happen. But I wouldn't be valuing the 1.07 like there's a decent chance that Odunze is there.

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Re: Odunze Thread

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:59 am

tstafford wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:56 am
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:13 am
tstafford wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:11 am

Same here. In non-TEP leagues I don't think he's dropping to 1.07. Combine and Draft will impact things. But I'm having a hard time seeing a RB crack the top-6 in SF so it would have to be another WR to join the mix. Worthy?
My guess would be Keon Coleman goes mid-late 1st to a good situation and gets pumped up a few boards. It only takes 1 person to "reach" for a player and Coleman has the upside, even if he's not even my WR4 right now. Could see it being Worthy as well. I need to watch more of him still
For sure it will happen. But I wouldn't be valuing the 1.07 like there's a decent chance that Odunze is there.
If we are talking SF, I could see 3 QB, Bowers and MHJ/Nabers as the top 6. At least, that is how I view it currently as someone who has a 1.07. I think it could be between QB3/Odunze at the 1.06 for a lot

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Re: Odunze Thread

Postby tstafford » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:56 am

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:59 am
tstafford wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:56 am
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:13 am

My guess would be Keon Coleman goes mid-late 1st to a good situation and gets pumped up a few boards. It only takes 1 person to "reach" for a player and Coleman has the upside, even if he's not even my WR4 right now. Could see it being Worthy as well. I need to watch more of him still
For sure it will happen. But I wouldn't be valuing the 1.07 like there's a decent chance that Odunze is there.
If we are talking SF, I could see 3 QB, Bowers and MHJ/Nabers as the top 6. At least, that is how I view it currently as someone who has a 1.07. I think it could be between QB3/Odunze at the 1.06 for a lot
TEP, yes. Otherwise I think it's a reach to take Bowers above the 1.07. But you're right, it will happen sometimes. I'm just saying I wouldn't make a trade for the 1.06 that presumes it will happen in a particular league. Just like I'm not trading for the 1.02 presuming that CW goes 1.01 if I am targeting MHJR.

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Re: Odunze Thread

Postby TheTroll » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:46 pm

tstafford wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:56 am
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:59 am
tstafford wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:56 am

For sure it will happen. But I wouldn't be valuing the 1.07 like there's a decent chance that Odunze is there.
If we are talking SF, I could see 3 QB, Bowers and MHJ/Nabers as the top 6. At least, that is how I view it currently as someone who has a 1.07. I think it could be between QB3/Odunze at the 1.06 for a lot
TEP, yes. Otherwise I think it's a reach to take Bowers above the 1.07. But you're right, it will happen sometimes. I'm just saying I wouldn't make a trade for the 1.06 that presumes it will happen in a particular league. Just like I'm not trading for the 1.02 presuming that CW goes 1.01 if I am targeting MHJR.
Odunze, should be 3rd WR off the board. I most interested to see what team he is drafted to in the NFL. I think he’s most dependent on this more so than MHJ and Nabers.
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Re: Odunze Thread

Postby StripesOfKC » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:25 am

I have come to like Odunze but would still lean towards him at 7 below Bowers

Guarantee there'll be more WR prospects with a good shot of having his career this year and next year than TEs like Bowers

Landing spots could switch that up though

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Re: Odunze Thread

Postby MacDaddy123 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:33 pm

tstafford wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:11 am
TheTroll wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:49 pm
MacDaddy123 wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:46 pm I like Odunze s the WR3 in this class, but I know others that disagree, and have him lower.
I think Odunze/Bowers are interchangeable, with Odunze ahead in non-TEP leagues, and Bowers ahead in TEP leagues.

I can't see Odunze drop any further than 1.07 in 12 team SF rookie drafts, but a lot can change in 3 months.

I feel like Nabers is much closer to MHJ than he is to Odunze.
Gladly take Odunze at 1.07 in SF. Tops of tier 2
Same here. In non-TEP leagues I don't think he's dropping to 1.07. Combine and Draft will impact things. But I'm having a hard time seeing a RB crack the top-6 in SF so it would have to be another WR to join the mix. Worthy?
Me neither.
I said in TEP leagues Bowers will climb into the top 6, and Odunze will be the 1.07.
Obviously, in non-TEP leagues, Odunze moves ahead of Bowers, and climbs into the top 6. Bowers falls to 1.07-1.09 range.

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Re: Odunze Thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:41 pm

MacDaddy123 wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:33 pm
tstafford wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:11 am
TheTroll wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:49 pm

Gladly take Odunze at 1.07 in SF. Tops of tier 2
Same here. In non-TEP leagues I don't think he's dropping to 1.07. Combine and Draft will impact things. But I'm having a hard time seeing a RB crack the top-6 in SF so it would have to be another WR to join the mix. Worthy?
Me neither.
I said in TEP leagues Bowers will climb into the top 6, and Odunze will be the 1.07.
Obviously, in non-TEP leagues, Odunze moves ahead of Bowers, and climbs into the top 6. Bowers falls to 1.07-1.09 range.
Yep. I have the 1.02 and 1.06 in a Superflex 1 ppr 1 TEP league. Plan on taking Bowers at 1.06 if he is there. I think it'll probably go:

Williams
Harrison (1.02 me)
Maye
Nabers
Daniels

In that order or close to it, leaving Bowers at 1.06. Odunze at 1.07.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

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QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

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QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Odunze Thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:06 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:41 pm
MacDaddy123 wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:33 pm
tstafford wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:11 am

Same here. In non-TEP leagues I don't think he's dropping to 1.07. Combine and Draft will impact things. But I'm having a hard time seeing a RB crack the top-6 in SF so it would have to be another WR to join the mix. Worthy?
Me neither.
I said in TEP leagues Bowers will climb into the top 6, and Odunze will be the 1.07.
Obviously, in non-TEP leagues, Odunze moves ahead of Bowers, and climbs into the top 6. Bowers falls to 1.07-1.09 range.
Yep. I have the 1.02 and 1.06 in a Superflex 1 ppr 1 TEP league. Plan on taking Bowers at 1.06 if he is there. I think it'll probably go:

Williams
Harrison (1.02 me)
Maye
Nabers
Daniels

In that order or close to it, leaving Bowers at 1.06. Odunze at 1.07.
I think it's way, way too early in the process to think that with any degree of certainty.
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Re: Odunze Thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:26 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:06 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:41 pm
MacDaddy123 wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:33 pm

Me neither.
I said in TEP leagues Bowers will climb into the top 6, and Odunze will be the 1.07.
Obviously, in non-TEP leagues, Odunze moves ahead of Bowers, and climbs into the top 6. Bowers falls to 1.07-1.09 range.
Yep. I have the 1.02 and 1.06 in a Superflex 1 ppr 1 TEP league. Plan on taking Bowers at 1.06 if he is there. I think it'll probably go:

Williams
Harrison (1.02 me)
Maye
Nabers
Daniels

In that order or close to it, leaving Bowers at 1.06. Odunze at 1.07.
I think it's way, way too early in the process to think that with any degree of certainty.
I mean, sure, there is a lot to shake out still. Of course.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

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QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble


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