I don't think this is great value but I still think Taylor can be an elite RB and I don't think Murray is an elite QB. I could be way off here though.SteelLake wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:06 pmGot him to switch it to 2.02... So:Gator Sens wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:53 pmI can't stand Watson and would not have him in any format, but this is not the deal to move him in based on the return.
Murray and 12th overall for JT and Watson.
I think I'm a yes now... wondering if I'm crazy though
Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
Would you do it with my build though and struggle to upgrade at qb for a year?Gator Sens wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:10 pmI don't think this is great value but I still think Taylor can be an elite RB and I don't think Murray is an elite QB. I could be way off here though.SteelLake wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:06 pmGot him to switch it to 2.02... So:Gator Sens wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:53 pm
I can't stand Watson and would not have him in any format, but this is not the deal to move him in based on the return.
Murray and 12th overall for JT and Watson.
I think I'm a yes now... wondering if I'm crazy though
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
I get the format and all, but I think you are better off holding and moving Taylor in season.SteelLake wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:16 pmWould you do it with my build though and struggle to upgrade at qb for a year?Gator Sens wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:10 pmI don't think this is great value but I still think Taylor can be an elite RB and I don't think Murray is an elite QB. I could be way off here though.
Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
For clarity, I'm responding to this proposal:
Give: JT/Watson
Get: Murray/2.02
SF, 10-team
I'm doing this deal.
Murray >> JT - I don't think this is all that close in SF. I guess the 10-team thing impacts it but not enough to change my POV
Watson < 2.02 - But I don't care. I want him off my team.
The #12 pick in SF is going to yield a nice player. It may get the "top" RB in the class, a QB taken later in the NFL first round, etc. It's not nothing.
Give: JT/Watson
Get: Murray/2.02
SF, 10-team
I'm doing this deal.
Murray >> JT - I don't think this is all that close in SF. I guess the 10-team thing impacts it but not enough to change my POV
Watson < 2.02 - But I don't care. I want him off my team.
The #12 pick in SF is going to yield a nice player. It may get the "top" RB in the class, a QB taken later in the NFL first round, etc. It's not nothing.
Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
Thanks all, I know some disagreement, but I pulled the trigger. I have a pretty stacked team, besides QB2. In the last year, I've tried for every QB I have above Murray:
Offered Chase + for Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes
Offered Lamb + for Lamar Jackson, Burrow
Offered Lamb for Stroud (midway through season, Stroud worth more now)
Offered Jonathan Taylor for Anthony Richardson, Trevor Lawrence.
I was pretty instantly in on Purdy and was trying to acquire him last offseason for Mixon and Russ (which, man I wish I could've got)
So, maybe a slight overpayment in 10 team, but its been hard to get a QB2 above Watson and I think I just needed to accept value people put on top 10ish QB's if I wanted to add a 2nd one....
Offered Chase + for Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes
Offered Lamb + for Lamar Jackson, Burrow
Offered Lamb for Stroud (midway through season, Stroud worth more now)
Offered Jonathan Taylor for Anthony Richardson, Trevor Lawrence.
I was pretty instantly in on Purdy and was trying to acquire him last offseason for Mixon and Russ (which, man I wish I could've got)
So, maybe a slight overpayment in 10 team, but its been hard to get a QB2 above Watson and I think I just needed to accept value people put on top 10ish QB's if I wanted to add a 2nd one....
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
JT >>> Murray + 2.02 in a team teamer.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
You and your league are valuing QBs like they are in a 12+ team league.SteelLake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:52 am Thanks all, I know some disagreement, but I pulled the trigger. I have a pretty stacked team, besides QB2. In the last year, I've tried for every QB I have above Murray:
Offered Chase + for Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes
Offered Lamb + for Lamar Jackson, Burrow
Offered Lamb for Stroud (midway through season, Stroud worth more now)
Offered Jonathan Taylor for Anthony Richardson, Trevor Lawrence.
I was pretty instantly in on Purdy and was trying to acquire him last offseason for Mixon and Russ (which, man I wish I could've got)
So, maybe a slight overpayment in 10 team, but its been hard to get a QB2 above Watson and I think I just needed to accept value people put on top 10ish QB's if I wanted to add a 2nd one....
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
I’m well aware, but at a certain point, if I want to upgrade qb, I need to spend ridiculous price. Been trying for over a year. I can bitch to peopel they aren’t valuing qbs correctly, but then I’m the team starting a rb in SF spot in championship cause person told me they needed a 1 for bleep minshewabloom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:27 pmYou and your league are valuing QBs like they are in a 12+ team league.SteelLake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:52 am Thanks all, I know some disagreement, but I pulled the trigger. I have a pretty stacked team, besides QB2. In the last year, I've tried for every QB I have above Murray:
Offered Chase + for Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes
Offered Lamb + for Lamar Jackson, Burrow
Offered Lamb for Stroud (midway through season, Stroud worth more now)
Offered Jonathan Taylor for Anthony Richardson, Trevor Lawrence.
I was pretty instantly in on Purdy and was trying to acquire him last offseason for Mixon and Russ (which, man I wish I could've got)
So, maybe a slight overpayment in 10 team, but its been hard to get a QB2 above Watson and I think I just needed to accept value people put on top 10ish QB's if I wanted to add a 2nd one....
If you look at my roster construction, I was loaded everywhere else. I know this should be an overpayment, but my league is insane on qbs and I guess If 9 other owners are there, i have to buy at higher price, if I want to buy.
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
there is no reason to overpay when there are plenty of other cheaper options.SteelLake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:39 pmI’m well aware, but at a certain point, if I want to upgrade qb, I need to spend ridiculous price. Been trying for over a year. I can bitch to peopel they aren’t valuing qbs correctly, but then I’m the team starting a rb in SF spot in championship cause person told me they needed a 1 for bleep minshewabloom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:27 pmYou and your league are valuing QBs like they are in a 12+ team league.SteelLake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:52 am Thanks all, I know some disagreement, but I pulled the trigger. I have a pretty stacked team, besides QB2. In the last year, I've tried for every QB I have above Murray:
Offered Chase + for Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes
Offered Lamb + for Lamar Jackson, Burrow
Offered Lamb for Stroud (midway through season, Stroud worth more now)
Offered Jonathan Taylor for Anthony Richardson, Trevor Lawrence.
I was pretty instantly in on Purdy and was trying to acquire him last offseason for Mixon and Russ (which, man I wish I could've got)
So, maybe a slight overpayment in 10 team, but its been hard to get a QB2 above Watson and I think I just needed to accept value people put on top 10ish QB's if I wanted to add a 2nd one....
If you look at my roster construction, I was loaded everywhere else. I know this should be an overpayment, but my league is insane on qbs and I guess If 9 other owners are there, i have to buy at higher price, if I want to buy.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
But there aren’t. I have Pacheco, Walker, Olave on my bench. Was starting cmc, Gibbs, Taylor, chase, lamb, aiyuk.abloom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:03 pmthere is no reason to overpay when there are plenty of other cheaper options.SteelLake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:39 pmI’m well aware, but at a certain point, if I want to upgrade qb, I need to spend ridiculous price. Been trying for over a year. I can bitch to peopel they aren’t valuing qbs correctly, but then I’m the team starting a rb in SF spot in championship cause person told me they needed a 1 for bleep minshew
If you look at my roster construction, I was loaded everywhere else. I know this should be an overpayment, but my league is insane on qbs and I guess If 9 other owners are there, i have to buy at higher price, if I want to buy.
I just think difference between Taylor and streaming matchups of Pacheco / walker / Olave on a week to basis is < difference of Murray and Deshaun
I checked in on prices of cousins, tua, and love, in addition to above and they were shocking. Absolute best qb price I could get after 14 months of trying. So options were either this, or keep deshaun Watson as qb2. Can argue that’s better, but I guess I disagree if look at projected outcomes of my flex depth
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