Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
QB RB RB WR WR TE FLEX FLEX SF
I’ve been trying for a full year to upgrade my qb2 and it keeps getting worse. I think owners seem to be valuing our qbs as 12 team league. One team has Murray as his qb3, debating offering the following, does it make sense:
I give:
J. Taylor
I get:
K. Murray
Big upgrade for me at qb, and I have walker, Pacheco, Olave to fill in for Taylor
Edited Proposal
I get:
K. Murray, 2.02 (12th overall)
I give:
J. Taylor, D. Watson
Hurts, Watson, R. Wilson
Gibbs, McCaffrey, Taylor, Walker, Pacheco, Miller, Rivers, Emmanuel Wilson
Chase, Lamb, Olave, Aiyuk , Downs, Mims, Wicks, Hyatt, W. Robinson, T. Palmer, M. Thomas, D. Robinson, Justyn Ross, B. Melton, D. Slay, X. Hutchinson, Gibpson
Kittle, Thomas
Draft picks:
1.10, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08, 9th pick of Round 4 until draft over
Late, 2025 1st; My 2025 1st; 4 2025 3rd's (all my picks after 3rd round, draft continues until end)
I’ve been trying for a full year to upgrade my qb2 and it keeps getting worse. I think owners seem to be valuing our qbs as 12 team league. One team has Murray as his qb3, debating offering the following, does it make sense:
I give:
J. Taylor
I get:
K. Murray
Big upgrade for me at qb, and I have walker, Pacheco, Olave to fill in for Taylor
Edited Proposal
I get:
K. Murray, 2.02 (12th overall)
I give:
J. Taylor, D. Watson
Hurts, Watson, R. Wilson
Gibbs, McCaffrey, Taylor, Walker, Pacheco, Miller, Rivers, Emmanuel Wilson
Chase, Lamb, Olave, Aiyuk , Downs, Mims, Wicks, Hyatt, W. Robinson, T. Palmer, M. Thomas, D. Robinson, Justyn Ross, B. Melton, D. Slay, X. Hutchinson, Gibpson
Kittle, Thomas
Draft picks:
1.10, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08, 9th pick of Round 4 until draft over
Late, 2025 1st; My 2025 1st; 4 2025 3rd's (all my picks after 3rd round, draft continues until end)
Last edited by SteelLake on Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:06 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
I'd try to get a pick upgrade back with this. I'd prefer Taylor in this size league, but given your dilemma and team make-up this trade makes sense.
Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
Looking at team build and need, this might be the deal you'll have to make.
I agree with sneaking a draft pick upgrade in there, but if they take that out, you still need to do this swap.
Good luck!
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I agree with sneaking a draft pick upgrade in there, but if they take that out, you still need to do this swap.
Good luck!
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Both teams 16 tm 1/3 ppr idp
QB, RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 2 Flex
Phoenix Park Suns
QB - Hurts, Darnold, Minshew, Zappe, O'Connell
RB - Ekeler, Conner, Edwards, Strong, McLaughlin, Brooks, Prince
WR - Adams, Tyreek Hill, Deebo Samuel, Zay Jones, M. Thomas, Downs
TE - Goedert, Bellinger
PK - Sanders
DL - Garrett, Paye, Madubuike, Judon
LB - Franklin, Mosley, Edmunds, J. Davis, Bernard, Jack, Mapu, Vander Esch
DB - Metellus, Branch
2024 Picks: 1.14, 2.05 , 2.14, 3.05, 3.14, 6.14
Serenity Valley Browncoats
QB - RWilson, O'Connell, Lance, Darnold, Hooker, Stidham
RB - Stevenson, RWhite, Ford, Herbert, Hunt, CEH, McIntosh, Brooks
WR - Adams, Collins, Rice, GDavis, NBrown, Dortch, Tillman
TE - Higbee, Allen, Graham
PK - Fairbairn
DL - Madubuike, Paye, Ebukam, Will Anderson
LB - Kendricks, Pratt, DWhite, Holcombe, Baker, Alexander, TAndersen, Jack
DB - Blackmon, Brisker, Stingley
- 2024 Picks: 1.13, 3.13
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QB, RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 2 Flex
Phoenix Park Suns
QB - Hurts, Darnold, Minshew, Zappe, O'Connell
RB - Ekeler, Conner, Edwards, Strong, McLaughlin, Brooks, Prince
WR - Adams, Tyreek Hill, Deebo Samuel, Zay Jones, M. Thomas, Downs
TE - Goedert, Bellinger
PK - Sanders
DL - Garrett, Paye, Madubuike, Judon
LB - Franklin, Mosley, Edmunds, J. Davis, Bernard, Jack, Mapu, Vander Esch
DB - Metellus, Branch
2024 Picks: 1.14, 2.05 , 2.14, 3.05, 3.14, 6.14
Serenity Valley Browncoats
QB - RWilson, O'Connell, Lance, Darnold, Hooker, Stidham
RB - Stevenson, RWhite, Ford, Herbert, Hunt, CEH, McIntosh, Brooks
WR - Adams, Collins, Rice, GDavis, NBrown, Dortch, Tillman
TE - Higbee, Allen, Graham
PK - Fairbairn
DL - Madubuike, Paye, Ebukam, Will Anderson
LB - Kendricks, Pratt, DWhite, Holcombe, Baker, Alexander, TAndersen, Jack
DB - Blackmon, Brisker, Stingley
- 2024 Picks: 1.13, 3.13
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
I like this deal for you. I bet the other owner will like it too. JT is solid value for a QB3. I would agree with a pick swap addition and play the 10team studs rule card and JT is that stud.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
This deal improves your build overall. QBs take a hit value wise in a 10 teamer, but the 6 points for all TDs boosts them a bit more. Fair both ways based on your build with the value possibly still being with Taylor.
Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
I definitely want Kyler. Any way you could send Watson back and get something added in return?
Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
Sounds like might be requirement; see edited proposal:
I give Taylor, Watson; I get Murray, 2.02 (10 team league).
Last edited by SteelLake on Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:07 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
Curious of your thoughts on edited proposal
Drew Christopher Brees Football Squad
Dynasty League (10 team)
2013-Present (11 years)
2017, 2022 Champion
8 playoff appearances
Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
Contract League (12 teams)
2015-Present (8 years)
2022, 2023 Champion
8 Playoff appearances
Record: 84-42
Dar's Outcasts
Redraft league (8-10 teams)
2020- Present (4 years)
2023 Champion
4 Playoff appearances
Record: 41-16
Dynasty League (10 team)
2013-Present (11 years)
2017, 2022 Champion
8 playoff appearances
Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
Contract League (12 teams)
2015-Present (8 years)
2022, 2023 Champion
8 Playoff appearances
Record: 84-42
Dar's Outcasts
Redraft league (8-10 teams)
2020- Present (4 years)
2023 Champion
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Record: 41-16
Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
Curious of your thoughts on edited proposalGator Sens wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:15 am This deal improves your build overall. QBs take a hit value wise in a 10 teamer, but the 6 points for all TDs boosts them a bit more. Fair both ways based on your build with the value possibly still being with Taylor.
Drew Christopher Brees Football Squad
Dynasty League (10 team)
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2017, 2022 Champion
8 playoff appearances
Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
Contract League (12 teams)
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2022, 2023 Champion
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Record: 84-42
Dar's Outcasts
Redraft league (8-10 teams)
2020- Present (4 years)
2023 Champion
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Record: 41-16
Dynasty League (10 team)
2013-Present (11 years)
2017, 2022 Champion
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Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
Contract League (12 teams)
2015-Present (8 years)
2022, 2023 Champion
8 Playoff appearances
Record: 84-42
Dar's Outcasts
Redraft league (8-10 teams)
2020- Present (4 years)
2023 Champion
4 Playoff appearances
Record: 41-16
Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
Curious of your thoughts on edited proposal
Drew Christopher Brees Football Squad
Dynasty League (10 team)
2013-Present (11 years)
2017, 2022 Champion
8 playoff appearances
Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
Contract League (12 teams)
2015-Present (8 years)
2022, 2023 Champion
8 Playoff appearances
Record: 84-42
Dar's Outcasts
Redraft league (8-10 teams)
2020- Present (4 years)
2023 Champion
4 Playoff appearances
Record: 41-16
Dynasty League (10 team)
2013-Present (11 years)
2017, 2022 Champion
8 playoff appearances
Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
Contract League (12 teams)
2015-Present (8 years)
2022, 2023 Champion
8 Playoff appearances
Record: 84-42
Dar's Outcasts
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2020- Present (4 years)
2023 Champion
4 Playoff appearances
Record: 41-16
Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
Curious of your thoughts on edited proposalMenace2010 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:08 am I'd try to get a pick upgrade back with this. I'd prefer Taylor in this size league, but given your dilemma and team make-up this trade makes sense.
Drew Christopher Brees Football Squad
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2017, 2022 Champion
8 playoff appearances
Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
Contract League (12 teams)
2015-Present (8 years)
2022, 2023 Champion
8 Playoff appearances
Record: 84-42
Dar's Outcasts
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2020- Present (4 years)
2023 Champion
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Record: 41-16
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Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
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2015-Present (8 years)
2022, 2023 Champion
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Record: 84-42
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
I'd have zero interest in the edited proposal. If you're saying QBs are so difficult to trade for in this league that you need to send Taylor for Murray, then Watson is way more valuable than 2.09. Would also want to have 3QBs in a league like that given what you've told us. Maybe swap Wilson for Watson.
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Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
I can't stand Watson and would not have him in any format, but this is not the deal to move him in based on the return.SteelLake wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:07 pmCurious of your thoughts on edited proposalGator Sens wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:15 am This deal improves your build overall. QBs take a hit value wise in a 10 teamer, but the 6 points for all TDs boosts them a bit more. Fair both ways based on your build with the value possibly still being with Taylor.
Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF) Edit: Counter-proposal made
Got him to switch it to 2.02... So:Menace2010 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:28 pm I'd have zero interest in the edited proposal. If you're saying QBs are so difficult to trade for in this league that you need to send Taylor for Murray, then Watson is way more valuable than 2.09. Would also want to have 3QBs in a league like that given what you've told us. Maybe swap Wilson for Watson.
Murray and 12th overall for JT and Watson.
I think I'm a yes now... wondering if I'm crazy though
Drew Christopher Brees Football Squad
Dynasty League (10 team)
2013-Present (11 years)
2017, 2022 Champion
8 playoff appearances
Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
Contract League (12 teams)
2015-Present (8 years)
2022, 2023 Champion
8 Playoff appearances
Record: 84-42
Dar's Outcasts
Redraft league (8-10 teams)
2020- Present (4 years)
2023 Champion
4 Playoff appearances
Record: 41-16
Dynasty League (10 team)
2013-Present (11 years)
2017, 2022 Champion
8 playoff appearances
Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
Contract League (12 teams)
2015-Present (8 years)
2022, 2023 Champion
8 Playoff appearances
Record: 84-42
Dar's Outcasts
Redraft league (8-10 teams)
2020- Present (4 years)
2023 Champion
4 Playoff appearances
Record: 41-16
Re: Should I trade J. Taylor for K. Murray? (6 point passing TD, 10 team SF)
Got him to switch it to 2.02... So:Gator Sens wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:53 pmI can't stand Watson and would not have him in any format, but this is not the deal to move him in based on the return.SteelLake wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:07 pmCurious of your thoughts on edited proposalGator Sens wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:15 am This deal improves your build overall. QBs take a hit value wise in a 10 teamer, but the 6 points for all TDs boosts them a bit more. Fair both ways based on your build with the value possibly still being with Taylor.
Murray and 12th overall for JT and Watson.
I think I'm a yes now... wondering if I'm crazy though
Drew Christopher Brees Football Squad
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2017, 2022 Champion
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Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
Contract League (12 teams)
2015-Present (8 years)
2022, 2023 Champion
8 Playoff appearances
Record: 84-42
Dar's Outcasts
Redraft league (8-10 teams)
2020- Present (4 years)
2023 Champion
4 Playoff appearances
Record: 41-16
Dynasty League (10 team)
2013-Present (11 years)
2017, 2022 Champion
8 playoff appearances
Record: 95-61
Keenan Alexander Allen Football Squad
Contract League (12 teams)
2015-Present (8 years)
2022, 2023 Champion
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Record: 84-42
Dar's Outcasts
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