1.02+ for Harrison?

[Bay City Original]

Team 2 in sig...

This is a rebuild team that achieved a year sooner than I expected, so I'm pretty happy with the young pieces I currently have. I'd love to acquire Marvin Harrison, Jr to help solidify this team as a contender for at least the next three years.

Would offering any of the following offers be enough to move up from 1.02 to 1.01?

•1.02 + 1.09 for 1.01
•1.02 + DeVonte Smith for 1.01

If not, what should I expect to offer to move up... and would it be worth it, in your opinion?

Thanks!

[wickerkat1212]

It's close. The problem for ME is this is not a Superflex and 1.09 will probably be lower than I like. I might want 1.09 + Devonta. Again, it's not Superflex, so the 1.01 is going to be Harrison. For sure.

[HughHoney]

Not sure if the first will work but the second is way too much for me.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

I can understand the first one. Second one is way too much to give. My general recommendation would be to just sit tight.

[Bay City Original]

It's close. The problem for ME is this is not a Superflex and 1.09 will probably be lower than I like. I might want 1.09 + Devonta. Again, it's not Superflex, so the 1.01 is going to be Harrison. For sure.

So you’re saying Devonte and 1.09 for 1.01 or Devonte, 1.02, and 1.09? The later, IMO, is way too much.


As for 1.02 and Devonte being too much, I agree but wanted to gauge my opinion. Is Devonte and 1.09 (and possibly a 2nd) enough?

In discussions with the owner, I threw out the 1.02 and 1.09 to see where he stood. He said that he’s locked in on Harrison and would need a lot BUT he did say he’d consider it after the NFL draft so it’s not a dead offer.

[Gator Sens]

If the first offer works and Harrison Jr is the top asset you want, go for it. The second offer is way too pricey. Don't get stuck on having to have a certain piece and overpay. Robinson abd Pitts have room to grow, but look at what some managers paid for their rights before touching an NFL field. Don't go overboard especially in January...

[wickerkat1212]

It's close. The problem for ME is this is not a Superflex and 1.09 will probably be lower than I like. I might want 1.09 + Devonta. Again, it's not Superflex, so the 1.01 is going to be Harrison. For sure.

So you’re saying Devonte and 1.09 for 1.01 or Devonte, 1.02, and 1.09? The later, IMO, is way too much.


As for 1.02 and Devonte being too much, I agree but wanted to gauge my opinion. Is Devonte and 1.09 (and possibly a 2nd) enough?

In discussions with the owner, I threw out the 1.02 and 1.09 to see where he stood. He said that he’s locked in on Harrison and would need a lot BUT he did say he’d consider it after the NFL draft so it’s not a dead offer.

I'm saying if I had the 1.01 in a NON-SUPERFLEX, where Harrison is the guy, I'm not trading the 1.01 for the 1.02 plus 1.09. I'm also not trading it for the 1.02 and Devonta Smith. (I have to go look at his numbers). It would take the 1.02, 1.09 and Smith for me to move my pick. Yes, it's an overpay.

DS was the #15WR in my 1 PPR leagues. So, no slouch.

Who are we taking at 1.02—Nabers? If you believe he's comparable then sure, the 1.02 + 1.09 may work, the 1.02 + DS could also work. But I think you may have to overpay—1.02 + 1.09 + Smith.

IDK who is going to be there at 1.09. I've been mostly studying Superflex.

[wickerkat1212]

Looking at this again, I probably wouldn't move DS. Maybe Kupp works, he's getting old?

1.02 + 1.09 probably won't do it. 1.02 + Kupp may or may not do it. Or stay at 1.02 and take Nabers. IDK. LOL

[stpilots98]

1.02 & 1.09 wouldn’t be close for me to move off MHjr and Kupp doesn’t move the needle at all. To be fair I have his gap from Nabers wider than most and that’s no knock on Malik, who’s electric. 1.02 and Devonta seems like a fine offer, but I’m still not sure if it gets it done.

[TheTroll]

I can understand the first one. Second one is way too much to give. My general recommendation would be to just sit tight.

Yep this… if MHJ is your guy offer 1 is what I would give. After that sit tight and enjoy Nabers who I value as a 1b to MHJs 1a.

[tstafford]

I can understand the first one. Second one is way too much to give. My general recommendation would be to just sit tight.

Yep this… if MHJ is your guy offer 1 is what I would give. After that sit tight and enjoy Nabers who I value as a 1b to MHJs 1a.

This. (And I'm reading this to be a 1QB league).

FWIW - I think the market price for MHJR in 1QB will be somewhere in-between these offers but closer to the 1.02/1.09 value.

[wickerkat1212]

For ME to move off of the 1.01 I'd want an overpay. YOU may be able to get the swap of picks for less. I'd start with the 1.02 + 1.09 and see what happens. It's not a bad offer, but for ME and in a 1 QB league I'm not that excited about the 1.09. Even in Superflex there is a big dropoff for ME after the 1.07 or so. Good luck!

[Bay City Original]

I can understand the first one. Second one is way too much to give. My general recommendation would be to just sit tight.

Yep this… if MHJ is your guy offer 1 is what I would give. After that sit tight and enjoy Nabers who I value as a 1b to MHJs 1a.

This. (And I'm reading this to be a 1QB league).

FWIW - I think the market price for MHJR in 1QB will be somewhere in-between these offers but closer to the 1.02/1.09 value.

Thanks for all the opinions… this is the direction I’ll probably go… stay put. If the owner wants to move his 1.01 for my 1,02 and 1.09, I’ll probably do it but otherwise, I should be happy with who i get at #2 and the #9 pick will give me more options at draft time.

[Gazzerk]

This is just one of those lose/lose situations where the 1.01 owner should absolutely demand a ridiculous overpay for the pick but it’s also almost definitely not worth sending that much to get it. I personally think the gap between Nabers and MHJ is much closer than most seem to realize. There is a gap for sure, but it’s not massive. Nabers is an absolute monster. I’d happily hold and take Nabers over sending the farm to get a guy that could honestly be fairly similar at the end of the day. There is a non zero chance that Nabers has a similar career to MHJ. Just look at what people were paying to move from the 1.02 to 1.01 last season for Bijan and now Gibbs is arguably just as valuable. I have Bijan and still prefer him but the gap has closed quite a bit. With that said, I’d probably send the 1.02 and 1.09 to move up but not much more than that.

[TheTroll]

This is just one of those lose/lose situations where the 1.01 owner should absolutely demand a ridiculous overpay for the pick but it’s also almost definitely not worth sending that much to get it. I personally think the gap between Nabers and MHJ is much closer than most seem to realize. There is a gap for sure, but it’s not massive. Nabers is an absolute monster. I’d happily hold and take Nabers over sending the farm to get a guy that could honestly be fairly similar at the end of the day. There is a non zero chance that Nabers has a similar career to MHJ. Just look at what people were paying to move from the 1.02 to 1.01 last season for Bijan and now Gibbs is arguably just as valuable. I have Bijan and still prefer him but the gap has closed quite a bit. With that said, I’d probably send the 1.02 and 1.09 to move up but not much more than that.

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