Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

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Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby jobiegermano » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:47 pm

No matter what, I’m probably not going to bench Mahomes, but I traded for him a few weeks ago and he’s not helped my team at all.

Both Baker and Mullens are on the wire. The two winning owners from the quarterfinals started Staff and friggin Browning!

As an exercise, I’m asking you all to see if you can talk me into benching Mahomie. *IF* I were to be convinced, it would be to grab Baker and close my eyes when I pulled the trigger 😬

I had a rough week personally, and I didn’t do my due diligence before the Thu night game, because if I had, I would have started Puka in hopes he’d water down my opponent’s score since he was starting Staff.

Now I’m worried having let almost 20pts waste away on my bench! Would Baker redeem me or sink me?
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Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K


QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby TheTroll » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:13 pm

Mahomes and no doubt.

1. Top six QB for the week. Baker and Mullins in the teens.

2. KC playing LV. Matchup is great for Pat.

3. Playing on Monday. Just like you sitting for some time after Thursday, your opponent will have to sit there knowing you got Pat Mahomes in your pocket come Monday.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

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2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:48 pm

Mahomes has a great matchup and while he has been a bit disappointing, I think you still roll him. Mayfield has been solid but overall, so has Mahomes...just not spectacular.

Also, I hope all is okay with you, sorry for the tough week.

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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby jobiegermano » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:53 pm

TheTroll wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:13 pm Mahomes and no doubt.

1. Top six QB for the week. Baker and Mullins in the teens.

2. KC playing LV. Matchup is great for Pat.

3. Playing on Monday. Just like you sitting for some time after Thursday, your opponent will have to sit there knowing you got Pat Mahomes in your pocket come Monday.
I love that last line!
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10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K


QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A

2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby moishetreats » Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:12 am

I don't know why this is a crazy question.

-Since Week 11, Mayfield has outscored Mahomes.
-The Raiders have given up 23.5+ points (depending on scoring systems) to a QB once all year; the Jaguars have done it in four of the past six games (with Levis QBing one of the games they didn't, and Jackson scoring 20.54 in the other).
-TB has better pass-catching weapons than KC.

If you really think that Mayfield will be better, then start him. It's not as if you're taking a huge underdog and making a bet. This is almost pretty even in terms of projected points. Remove the names from the QBs, and I think it's a toss-up.

With things like this, I often let my decision come down to whether or not I'd be more pissed if Mahomes were on my bench and he went off or if Mayfield had a huge game and I didn't trust my gut. Kind of avoidance beating myself up since in the end there's only so much you can control.

Bottom line: I think Mahomes vs. Mayfield is a real consideration.
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Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), E Moore ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby abloom » Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:22 pm

Look, benching mahommes last week was a good idea. Benching him this week is not. He's up against a much weaker defense
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:27 pm

Always start your studs.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby The.Big.Spank » Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:04 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:27 pm Always start your studs.
Thats my motto too.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:34 am

The.Big.Spank wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:04 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:27 pm Always start your studs.
Thats my motto too.
The minute you don't, they will go OFF.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby Oddball456 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:29 pm

I had the same question but with Kelce vs starting Njoku. I also traded for Kelce mid season but he hasn't been great since. I ended up rolling with Kelce for the same reasons mentioned about Mahomes, I would have felt a lot worse if Kelce goes off and Njoku did early season Njoku stuff I would have been bummed since I got "too cute" with it.

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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby tsarpepe » Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:58 pm

The advice in this thread didn't really age well, but I'd start Mahomes next time in this situation regardless.

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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby Oddball456 » Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:24 pm

I have changed my mind. I am planning to bench Kelce in place of Njoku next week in the championship. Mahomes is not a must start option.

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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby abloom » Mon Dec 25, 2023 8:27 pm

I mean atleast cincis defense is worst than las Vegas.

Maybe next week we can go mahommes.

Team #3 In sig I need to start mahommes I think. Teams 1-3 also probably need to start kelce.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:06 am

wishing i benched purdy for freaking carr lol
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

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Re: Can I really bench Mahomes in the semis?

Postby murphysxm » Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:16 am

abloom wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:22 pm Look, benching mahommes last week was a good idea. Benching him this week is not. He's up against a much weaker defense
Not trying to be revisionist since the game occurred, but have you not paid attention to the Raiders defense the last couple of months? They have been AWESOME since McDaniels was washed from this team.
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